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Topic: Coronavirus
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Tue 05/19/20 03:52 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 05/19/20 03:58 PM
9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 05/20/20 03:10 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž on Wed 05/20/20 03:16 AM

9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.


Look at this website...
Brazil and Mexico are still on the rise with numbers, Russia too I believe, it seems to have started later there.
But... The USA is VERY high up, not Mexico or Brazil. Belgium, Iceland, Ireland too btw.
Also, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium are on the way out, or barely have new cases anymore. US isn't there yet although it seems to go down a wee bit.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

Look at the numbers per million inhabitants, that gives a clear indication.

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Wed 05/20/20 06:31 AM
So, let's see :thinking:. It's the warmest day of the year so far (a scorching 22c :slight_smile:) and I've just walked the four miles to the local Co-op and back. There are one or two businesses that have re-opened but, judging from the for sale and to let signs, many more never will. The road traffic is back to normal, although many of them are driving like they no longer want to live. All the shelves are full except for soft, dark brown sugar which you can't get.

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Wed 05/20/20 06:33 AM


9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.


Look at this website...
Brazil and Mexico are still on the rise with numbers, Russia too I believe, it seems to have started later there.
But... The USA is VERY high up, not Mexico or Brazil. Belgium, Iceland, Ireland too btw.
Also, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium are on the way out, or barely have new cases anymore. US isn't there yet although it seems to go down a wee bit.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

Look at the numbers per million inhabitants, that gives a clear indication.
Mostly giving gross numbers but not trends. It is no longer about total numbers but the trend of where a state or country is headed. Hard to find good statistical analysis.

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Wed 05/20/20 07:45 AM
May 20, 6:38 a.m.

Here are the latest totals from around the world, according to researchers from Johns Hopkins University:

Total confirmed cases: 4,913,761

Total deaths: 323,637

Total recovered: 1,701,472

15.1829395279
So basically 15 people die from contracting COVID 19 / 1 out of every 15 infected die, worldwide
(Total confirmed cases divided by total deaths)

It really could be worse. If you look at smaller demographics the numbers do get worse.

May 19, 2:52 p.m.

A new study has shown that patients who tested positive for COVID-19 after previously recovering from the disease are not infectious again. Scientists from the Korean Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conducted a study that involved over 200 COVID-19 survivors who had tested positive again. An article published by Bloomberg showed that the conclusion of the study found that the patients didn't appear to spread any infection and samples collected from these people couldn't be grown. The result of the study has prompted South Korea to no longer consider people infectious after recovering from COVID-19, even if they test positive again.


This disease has a top end.
Its a culling.
It's an In Your Face result of over-population.
Nature's way of keeping a species number in balance, removing the sick, weak and old from the planet.
Like all recent natural culling attempts it is ineffectual because humans successfully beat natural culling with technology and communication.
The next one will have a higher mortality rate, just wait and see.
Likely attacking our reproduction cycle.
This one drops numbers.
But, our population growth rate is unchecked.
We do this to ourselves.



SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 05/20/20 08:57 AM
Research show there's a possible link between people who have bad cases of the virus and the ones who die from it and vitamin D.
THey've established before there's a link between Vit D and flu and colds and other illnesses, and there seems to be a connection with Corona too.
Apparently people who only get it mildly have healthy Vit D levels, people in countries with a high Corona mortality rate generally have lack of Vit D (Italy, Spain, UK).

Fingers crossed, I had low Vit D, that's I take Vit D3 supplements, doctor's orders. So NOT Vit D, but D3.
Which reminds me, I should have levels checked again. Usually do that once a year.

But lack of Vit D is a thing, especially when having a western life-style (acidification). Doctor's used to prescribe low amounts, saying that was enough. Then they found it had to be much much higher, 800IE a day, and now they even suspect that isn't enough.

In any case, it's a thought. I wouldn't buy supplements, if memory serves getting too much Vit D isn't a good idea. But you can eat more food with Vit D. Or have your levels tested. (blood test)

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Wed 05/20/20 09:39 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Wed 05/20/20 09:52 AM
Vitamin D is very important to women, years ago my brother told me to get mine checked. It was very low. Dr. corrected it. Sometimes they never check for that, you have to tell Dr. to check. Here in USA anyway.

Having extremely low levels can kill some people. Somethings in the body can be an open venue to catch Corona.

It's not an old people's Virus.

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Wed 05/20/20 10:36 AM

Vitamin D is very important to women, years ago my brother told me to get mine checked. It was very low. Dr. corrected it. Sometimes they never check for that, you have to tell Dr. to check. Here in USA anyway.

Having extremely low levels can kill some people. Somethings in the body can be an open venue to catch Corona.

It's not an old people's Virus.

Here in the UK, the sunlight is too weak to generate vitamin D in the skin for a minimum of four months out of every year.

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Wed 05/20/20 01:58 PM
Vitamin d.......

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/should-people-take-vitamin-d-to-ward-off-the-new-coronavirus

http://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/do-vitamin-d-levels-affect-risk-of-infection-and-s


http://www.otago.ac.nz/christchurch/research/vidaris/index.html


The link made between vitamin d and covid was based on average vitamin d levels for a country compared with mortality rate/severe infections . No other variable was accounted for such as individual country response to covid ( some countries were late initiating containment measures and community spread was well under way . . Demographics such as population age also not taken into account . Basically they took the vitamin d level and mortality rate without any evidence of a scientific link

A clinical trial is underway to compare the effect of vit d supplementation in covid patients . The results of this research are due in July .

Vitamin d ( like vitamin a and other fat soluble vitamins ) can accumulate in the body . Toxic levels can be fatal . It is advisable if you are planning on taking Vitamin d supplementation to do so in consultation with your doctor .

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 05/20/20 03:04 PM


Vitamin D is very important to women, years ago my brother told me to get mine checked. It was very low. Dr. corrected it. Sometimes they never check for that, you have to tell Dr. to check. Here in USA anyway.

Having extremely low levels can kill some people. Somethings in the body can be an open venue to catch Corona.

It's not an old people's Virus.

Here in the UK, the sunlight is too weak to generate vitamin D in the skin for a minimum of four months out of every year.

Yeah, I think it's pretty much the same here.
The thing is, in the past people lived here -our ancestors- and didn't have a problem whatsoever. Which makes you think: is it air pollution or crap food, as our food these days is crap.
Or both?
Under normal conditions we can healthily live here, with whatever sun we get as our ancestors did too, and not even too distant ancestors. So that cannot be it. Apart from that, we are meant to live here so this is in itself ideal for us. Provided food is good and air is clean. At least that what I think.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 05/20/20 03:14 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž on Wed 05/20/20 03:15 PM



9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.


Look at this website...
Brazil and Mexico are still on the rise with numbers, Russia too I believe, it seems to have started later there.
But... The USA is VERY high up, not Mexico or Brazil. Belgium, Iceland, Ireland too btw.
Also, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium are on the way out, or barely have new cases anymore. US isn't there yet although it seems to go down a wee bit.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

Look at the numbers per million inhabitants, that gives a clear indication.
Mostly giving gross numbers but not trends. It is no longer about total numbers but the trend of where a state or country is headed. Hard to find good statistical analysis.

You keep saying that, I gave you this site before. Maybe have another look. You can look at all the details per state. Very detailed, best site.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Wed 05/20/20 03:19 PM

Vitamin D is very important to women, years ago my brother told me to get mine checked. It was very low. Dr. corrected it. Sometimes they never check for that, you have to tell Dr. to check. Here in USA anyway.

Having extremely low levels can kill some people. Somethings in the body can be an open venue to catch Corona.

It's not an old people's Virus.

YOu don't get checked for a gazillion things just for the heck of it. Not until you have issues or reason to question something.
And normally speaking we shouldn't have to get checked for these things, but things aren't normal anymore and haven't been for a long time, probably over half a century now.
Air & water pollution, use of very toxic pesticides esp in the 60s and 70s when they hadn't a clue what it did to us people, crap food grown on soil that's depleted and so on.
It's not normal to need supplements for D3, magnesium, calcium, and whatnot. If we hadn't bleeped up the planet, the food we eat and the air we breathe we wouldn't have to.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 05/20/20 03:50 PM
From ABC News, 20 May 2020:

Coronavirus updates: World sees highest 1-day increase since outbreak began


https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-50-us-states-now-eased-coronavirus/story?id=70781359

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Wed 05/20/20 03:56 PM
Only a small percent of vitamin d comes from food .. the majority is synthesised from sunlight .

As for our ancestors ., I doubt studies were done on whether they were deficient in vitamin d . We now live much longer . There is a correlation with ageing and the ability of the body to synthesise vitamin d ... hormones .. smoking .. obesity .. inactive lifestyle ., autoimmune disorders , medications plus many more factors effect levels of vitamin d . Air pollution is likely a factor .. if it was significant we would see increasing deficiencies in children and younger adults . There are many reasons for deficiency .,likely genetics play the biggest role .


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Wed 05/20/20 04:06 PM



9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.


Look at this website...
Brazil and Mexico are still on the rise with numbers, Russia too I believe, it seems to have started later there.
But... The USA is VERY high up, not Mexico or Brazil. Belgium, Iceland, Ireland too btw.
Also, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium are on the way out, or barely have new cases anymore. US isn't there yet although it seems to go down a wee bit.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

Look at the numbers per million inhabitants, that gives a clear indication.
Mostly giving gross numbers but not trends. It is no longer about total numbers but the trend of where a state or country is headed. Hard to find good statistical analysis.
trends are important .. there are graphs which show confirmed cases over a period of time . Interestingly china’s graph looks so different to the rest of the world ., perhaps they were so overwhelmed the graphs do not reflect reality . Most countries show a similar pattern . If I look at USA and uk .. both show small fluctuations up and down in number of cases but the curve has never consistently flattened . Just by looking at the graphs I can see countries that appear to be making consistent headway With current containment . waving

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Wed 05/20/20 05:32 PM

Latest outbreak in China ....

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/20/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/china-new-coronavirus-outbreak/

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Wed 05/20/20 06:25 PM
Today in nz .. .....

:thumbsup: No new cases

:thumbsup: 97% of cases have now recovered .

We remain in alert level 2 . Which is a staged reintroduction .. last week retail and non- essential services reopened .

Today ...pubs and bars reopen with restrictions on numbers (patrons must be seated, with a dedicated server for the table ). Social distancing /contract tracing continues .

Contract tracing app released by govt yesterday .



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Wed 05/20/20 06:30 PM
When you look at the worst outbreak situations, you find it is in large, urban areas and in the northern latitudes. I suspect we will see the same thing in the southern latitudes. There may well be a connection between vitamin D and the susceptibility to the virus. There have also been several studies showing that direct, high intensity sunlight kills the virus almost instantly. They are starting to use artificial, intense light as a disinfectant method. With this in mind, the northern, urban areas have many things stacked against them. Low sunlight levels for 4-6 months of the year. Higher levels of air pollution which subdues the sunlight intensity. Taller buildings and narrow streets which limits the amount of sunlight getting to the ground. High human density for easier transmission. Reliance on public transit by a large number of people. Limited outdoor access by most people. More indoor areas with very limited and controlled atmosphere exchanges which concentrates the virus.

The safest place to avoid the virus is outside during the day when the sun is bright. Add in social distancing and you should have it made!

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Wed 05/20/20 06:54 PM

When you look at the worst outbreak situations, you find it is in large, urban areas and in the northern latitudes. I suspect we will see the same thing in the southern latitudes. There may well be a connection between vitamin D and the susceptibility to the virus. There have also been several studies showing that direct, high intensity sunlight kills the virus almost instantly. They are starting to use artificial, intense light as a disinfectant method. With this in mind, the northern, urban areas have many things stacked against them. Low sunlight levels for 4-6 months of the year. Higher levels of air pollution which subdues the sunlight intensity. Taller buildings and narrow streets which limits the amount of sunlight getting to the ground. High human density for easier transmission. Reliance on public transit by a large number of people. Limited outdoor access by most people. More indoor areas with very limited and controlled atmosphere exchanges which concentrates the virus.

The safest place to avoid the virus is outside during the day when the sun is bright. Add in social distancing and you should have it made!

countries with sunny climates .. Africa and Middle East do not appear to show any less prevalence of covid . Humidity and temperature may be more of a factor ??? Likewise I am not certain there is a seasonal effect . I guess we have yet to see evidence that is the case .

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Thu 05/21/20 01:27 AM




9 Countries are really bad with Corona virus. Two at top of list are Brazil and Mexico.

Many children are also being diagnosed with illnesses related to COVID-19.

Testing is being done Now, in the US for a Vaccine.


Look at this website...
Brazil and Mexico are still on the rise with numbers, Russia too I believe, it seems to have started later there.
But... The USA is VERY high up, not Mexico or Brazil. Belgium, Iceland, Ireland too btw.
Also, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium are on the way out, or barely have new cases anymore. US isn't there yet although it seems to go down a wee bit.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

Look at the numbers per million inhabitants, that gives a clear indication.
Mostly giving gross numbers but not trends. It is no longer about total numbers but the trend of where a state or country is headed. Hard to find good statistical analysis.
trends are important .. there are graphs which show confirmed cases over a period of time . Interestingly china’s graph looks so different to the rest of the world ., perhaps they were so overwhelmed the graphs do not reflect reality . Most countries show a similar pattern . If I look at USA and uk .. both show small fluctuations up and down in number of cases but the curve has never consistently flattened . Just by looking at the graphs I can see countries that appear to be making consistent headway With current containment . waving

That's why I have been following that website I linked almost from the word go: to see a trend develop.
I believe China's appeared different as it had 1 peak day. That will then push the rest down to keep the relativity intact. France was the same I believe.
The only ones so far that I check with a different pattern are the UK and US.

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