I ask this:

If you have faith in your belief of an
All-Powerful, All-Loving, Everlasting Supreme God
and are blessed by it?

Why do you;

Have locks on your doors?
Lock and set your car alarm?
Carry a spare tire?
Own keys?
Have 1st Aid supplies in your home?
Have a smoke alarm in your home?
Wear a seatbelt?
Buy groceries?
Pay bills?
Work?
Pray for things?
???

Either your faith is in question
or your God's ability is in question.

Why is it when someone says they are 'blessed' it is with money or fortune, good health or favorable circumstances?

Why must you pray over and over for things you need and want?
Does your God have a hearing problem?
Is it hesitating because its not interested in loving right now?
Why is it so important to get many people praying for the same thing?
Does your God need convincing?
Do you think there is power in your prayers when many people support you?
Why are your prayers alone not enough?
Can't you pray for something once and let it go as a done deal?

Why does your God despise evil?
If your God created everything in the Universe, didn't it create evil too?
If your God was the Alpha, didn't it also create your Devil?
If it is all-powerful, why didn't it fix the problem with the Devil?
Is it a test it is performing on you?
If it is all-powerful and all-knowing, why should it need to test anything?

If marriage is sacred to your God and you are married, whouldn't your marriage be protected from harm by your all-loving, all-powerful, everlasting supreme being?

How could you be lonely?
How could you ever be depressed, afraid, unsure, or any other mental condition prone to the human animal?

If you believe in this God, why would sin affect you.
Your faith should keep you insulated from anything bad happening to your or in you.

Or...Is it all just a mind game being played on you by people you give power.
Frankly, this delusional thinking is pretty funny.
Silly Humans!

How does god explain the missing pound?

Probably not. It's a great example of human arrogance to think there is an all-powerful being watching over everything we do and blessing all of our wishes while others suffer and other animals go extinct.

We have only just enough of an imagination to be dangerous.

There are a few things that can happen:

Its not likely from what we know martians would have any interest in us. If they have developed technologies sophisticated enough to travel across the galaxy and discover us it could assumed they have seen it before and know of plenty of other planets. And also we know the universe is abundant with essential resources and Earth offers those in small amounts compared to other places, not to mention other places absent of a bomb-happy species. And if those aliens are well meaning they are probably going to leave us alone to find our own way just as we are learning to do with indigenous peoples on our own planet.

We could destroy ourselves our of fear of other people and not being willing to do business with others with bombs as powerful as ours. You want to not worry about other nations? Do business with them. Show them how its done and back them with capital. Make their lives better.

We are reaching a point where we are growing at an exponential rate, far more than what nature can provide. We will have to learn to support ourselves in space if we want to survive for the long term. Once the cure for aging is found, we will have to move quickly into space for further expansion. Earth will begin to eventually glow in the darkness of space due to energy consumption, and our presence will no longer be a secret, if it ever was one. So we can only hope my original opinion is correct that more intelligent and advanced life don't care about us being here.

In my humble and ignorant opinion, I don't see any reason why we wont continue to prosper with few bumps in the road here and there, and venture out into space and continue to expand.

Even with the cure of aging, cancer and other things, everyone will eventually die. The galaxy and universe itself will die out, all the lights will go out.

That's not to suggest anything depressing. Life a beautiful thing. Consciousness, art, emotion could be the universe realizing itself, like looking in the mirror and realizing it exists.

OR Jesus returns to Earth and sends all the wicked to hell and the righteous are lifted in to an ever-lasting glory that was always there and always will be. And we exist for eternity in infinite bliss and infinite understanding of all things.

Except we can understand eternity because we have never experienced it and we never will, because eternity will always exist beyond us, beyond our existence and imagination. So the idea of eternity is just more of our arrogance and imagination that we don't have the intelligence to keep up with.

When we start repeating the same ideas over and over again, that shows the limits of our ability to understand. The Earth was thought to be back of a giant turtle floating in the water, that stood on top of an even larger turtle. God was created by what? Another more powerful God? It's the same thing happening. Our universe is part of an even larger universe, that's part of an even larger universe.

Well what does that make us? I look at my cute kitty cat. It's a cat, but when you zoom out and look at it from the perspective of the universe or the a multi-verse, what is it really? No idea. :S How does that cat exist outside of your mind. What is it then?

I can only go to a tenth of a thou' myself.

I'll grant you that people may have been more honest and genuine in times past, and some or many stories check out in whatever records there are, but the inaccuracies, and use of plagiarism in so many parts renders the whole untrue as a coherent believable story re-telling 'fact'. Baby in the basket, flood story, winter solstice death/birth, twelve plus one, all shared by many other older religions.

Using an icon of a torture and death device as an adornment is beyond me.
I'm glad that many do believe in god, or the world would be a much more dangerous place, with morons believing their own immoral ideas instead.

Someone really should do a timeline of major events without the dogma and filler, and put it in the book somewhere easy to look up.
Tying events through time with other archaeological timelines, like Sumeria, Akkad, Mesopotamia, the Harlot was mentioned, etc.

A great architect would have a project planning staging timeline, with many annotations of fact or considered estimate, and final product. Sadly lacking here. It could be used as proof.

from NOTBEOLD:







i'll grant you that no doubt somewhere down the line the ideas of the BoogieMan and other mythical idealisms were initially or learned to be used as a controlling mechanism.

even the very idea of an All Powerful Deity could be enough to finagle some mind control over the "Clueless."

but today, 2019, knowing about World Leaders and Rulers, knowing about Police Officers, knowing about the Military, knowing about the Special Interest Groups within Law Enforcement (FBI-CIA-DEA-NSA-and on and on...)...we are WELL AWARE of "Control Groups" within Society.

so the VERY IDEA of God today, is no longer about Mind Control or Controlling the Masses because we know better. Today, there BETTER BE PROOF of GOD or those Believing would simply just STOP BELIEVING!!

whatever Label and Stigma one could once place upon "Followers of God" can no longer Apply!!

so the excuses EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD AGAINST GOD HAS USED....is LITERALLY...1,800 year old HearSay that possible once did apply, BUT NO LONGER applies to why those are Believers today!!

after serving my Nation and what I have seen, I FEAR NOTHING of HUMAN...so my Belief in God has absolutely nothing to do with Mind Control, Fear, or anything else due to myself needing to be Contained and Controlled!!

those PAST EXCUSES are a total LOAD of B.S. and No Longer APPLY!!

Tom,

i once had little but one day realized the NEEDY was those i can see for myself and sometimes not always through the Church. So, i took what i once gave to my Church and began giving a $20 here, $50 there to the Homeless and all of a sudden i got Raises (when the Company claimed all Raises were frozen due to whatever Reasoning)(but i STILL got my RAISES)(and i had no control of if they gave me Raises or not)...suddenly my side Business got Customers that before had no interest in my Skills, and the List is literally crazy how long the Blessings just began coming from Nowhere.

the more that came in I began giving even more to the Homeless i met on the streets and my Business increased by doubling and a couple times tripling SALES!!

i had put the Promise i read from Yeshua about giving and being blessed in return 700 Fold to the test and it worked!!


so i began doing that with other things i read Yeshua Claiming and BOOM the results were beyond Norm andAmazig/incredible.

so to your list do i do this and that if i believe in God....i ONLY DO what God instructed and so far, the only regret i have, is waiting as long as i did to finally remove my head from my rectum in order to see what God had waiting for me in terms of Blessings...

but as far as do i worry about eating somewhere and being gunned down since this is the New Norm since removing the 10 Commandments, the thought crosses my mind and at same time i say, God is in Control and if it's my time to die then i will die!!

if not, i'll continue to bug you here lol

Unlike you, I greatly fear human people on this planet. Especially those with a finger hovering over a button that if pressed could mean the end for millions. Since there is no god, there is nothing that will save them if some power crazed political leader decides to push that button. And of course there will be retaliation from 'the other side'.

On the other hand there are many Christians who live "in the fear of God". Why? If she is so loving, what is there to fear? Since I know for an absolute certain fact that there is no such being, it's all fairy tales and humbug, I don't fear any sort of deity at all, because there simply isn't one!

I guess that makes us opposites. You fear god but not humans, I fear humans, but not god.

Mathematically Speaking, Evolution is full of lies and so many homes yo literally have to close yours to pretend the dots are connected. Biology alone has over a literal million unanswered questions because each time they Theorize something, something immediately takes place to displess that Theory.

so as of right now, even Hawkings referred to this, Science is literally running in circles and trying to catch back to its own tail....

and i already eluded this is 2019, so the belief in God no longer applies to the 2nd Century stigmas of mind control.

everyone who believe is doing on their own Research and their Behalf. we no longer take a Preacher at his word since the Preacher has proven his word means nothing in recent past.


just you mentioned Jesus (or Yeshua is His real name)(whom the Ancient Greeks, Romans, Muslims, all Peoples of that Mesopotamia area)(have all written Factually about concerning when He lived, waked this Earth, and the message He Preached)(even some Ancient Greeks wrote that He was murdered, Buried, and even Resurrected and that His Followers increased.
^
Ancient Greek Historians documenting that Jesus is the "Real Deal," God in
human Form, did Miracles no one has ever been able to duplicate or match, they wrote He demanded to DENY the Greek Deities [this is why they wrote about Him], they mention the Darkness all over Mesopotamia when Jesus died like mentioned in Bible, they wrote He Died, was Buried, and then 3 wrote He made APPEARANCES for months ensuring all knew He was ALIVE before He Ascended.


NOW, if Ancient Atheists wrote about Jesus and wrote about the things we read in the Bible, it could be a SAFE BET that Jesus was/is the real Character in real life, not a myth. and if this makes Jesus REAL, it could very well make His Message Real about the ALL POWERFUL GOD!!

that person who has access to the "Button of DOOM" will NEVER push it because it's been Prophesied. it would have happened by now if it was going to ever happen. so, get a CLUE, MK, the Person who thinks they control that Button is the ONE who will NEVER touch it!!

MK,

hitler had German Scientists competing against Russia Scientists on creating the Nuclear Weapon. and the Germans created some incredible machinery/weaponry/trains/planes, blimps, etc....

anyways, Hitler had ACCESS to these weapons of Literal MASS DESTRUCTION.

Hitler kills over 8 Million Jews BUT NEVER ONCE thought about ending humanity with a NUKE.

the most insane Leader/Ruler/Dictator of all time [had AcCess to Your Button and never thought about pushing!!

so, it is not happening!!

I wish I had your faith in 'prophesies' but you have an insane president in the US.

Russia and China are nearly as bad. None of them will take any notice of your 'prophecies'.

If it happens, and we both survive, I will be the first to say, "told you so".

By the way, exactly where is it clearly predicted that no country will deploy a nuclear weapon against another country? Can't say I've come across that anywhere else. Only you state that.

Agreed about the Insane President, just like a Hitler wanting Control, but you cannot be Ruler/Controller if you are dead from Radioactive fallout.



but nonetheless, Trump is just fulfilling Prophecy Left and Right.

He ws Cyrus for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital and moving Embassy and this Syria thing just brought the NATIONS specifically mentioned in Book of Daniel as the setting before the Antichrist comes out.

we will see him as human but he will speak of "Peace" and all (most) will buy into it and there will be just that...immediate peace...for 3 1/2 years and then...

throughout our discussions, i've always mentioned having access to my Grandfather/Father/G.T. Hywoods, and many other Literature of Theology, Prophecy, so forth...

...anyways, we've always known of several MISINTERPRETATIONS that just were being accepted but was not CORRECTLY what the WORD of GOD was Claiming. this world ending because of FIRE was thought to be Nukes for the past 75 years running.

but that is not what it Claims at all, not even remotely close to what it claims. in fact, to claim the Bible mentions NUKES destroying the Earth is a flat out lie from that Preacher/Teacher of pure IGNORANCE to the ultimate degree.

the term FIRE is typically meant for PURIFICATION.
add gold, silver to a fire and it becomes its Purest Form.
add a Spiritual emphasis to fire and this is how your Soul is cleansed because the FIRE as it destroys Purifies certain objects (not wood or life forms that become ash/dust).

this is how God uses Fire to transform the Earth again (be 5th time now)

what's interesting about Fire and water are the effects long term.

fire to the Earth surface and water on several occasions would distort any possible way to age the Crust of the Earth.

this is why we have had uranium, radioactive, microwave, platinum, carbon Methods of Dating because none of them are factually accurate.

you are dealing with 5 times permanent fire damage and twice of water damage with the first time being over 100,000 years that the water just sat on the Earth's surface.

that is impossible to get an accurate age and they never will. it will all be a guess and hearsay.

and knowing just this little bit about what the Bible actually claims, also proves, the Bible DOES NOT BELIEVE the Earth is only 6,000 years old...so...that Nonsense should be tossed out the door A.S.A.P.!!

I don't think it says anywhere in the bible that the earth is only 6000 years old. It is the JWs who read that long bit about who begat who and made a list of people, father-to-son. I think they assumed each man had a son when he was age 20 and from that they were able to calculate that IF the earth was created at the time of Adam and Eve, then we are now about 6000 years on from that. Of course, nobody believes that the earth was created in literally seven days, it is just a way of saying things. I'm not even sure how accurate that bit is about these father-to-son lineage. It seems a very flimsy way of trying to make that calculation, especially as these days, we have very accurate methods of dating which all agree with each other. The JWs deny the accuracy of carbon dating and similar methods. Curiously, all the scientists who are not JWs are agreed that these things work, while all those who are, disagree. Strange, that. Goes back to an earlier post of mine in which I was trying to point out that there are many different religions, some with different denominations within them. They all believe in roughly the same thing - some sort of deity, and the 'need' to 'worship' this deity - but there are many differences between them, not least what actual name they use to refer to their deity! Personally I have no time for a deity that demands we make worship. I just don't do 'worship'!

the Scientists who deny Carbon Dating and such do so because you are removing a "test sample" that is existing in a literal "UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT" and placing it in a "STABLE ENVIRONMENT."

FOR ONE, MANY UNSTABLE SAMPLES CANNOT BE TESTED IN THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT...

but, when you remove that sample, you remove the conditions that apply. by placing this sample in a LAB (Stable Environment) these samples will Change/adapt to their settings and change the validity of the conditions it comes from and factually skews the Results.

i completely agree with them that this is not a correct way to sample and test due to removing from environment and conditions.

Why would you say that?
You are not 'bugging me' and neither is anyone else.
I find the opinions expressed as interesting and thus, entertaining.

I too give to the needy.
I have a different methodology to my giving.

As I am driving down the road I flip a $20 or a $10 out the window.
It blows in the wind and lands I don't know where.
I lay money on shelves at the stores or drop pocket change on the floor.

I do these things without fanfare or recognition.
I don't wait around to see who picks it up.
I don't do these things seeking retribution or good fortune.
I have 'found' money when I needed it and its nice.
I make it possible for others to 'find money' too.

If you are walking down the road and find a $20 on the ground you may credit that 'blessing' to your God.
You certainly are not going to thank me.
To me its only money.
To you, you are filled with joy because you have proof your God loves you.

If I am walking down the road and see a $20 on the ground, I pick it up and put it in my pocket. If I'm with someone else I might point and say "look".
It all depends on my current cash flow.

In my career, life, the good fortune things that happen to me I credit to the people and circumstances which caused the good fortune to happen. My own skills, knowledge and abilities account for 90% of my good fortune. The other 10% is accounted to other people and circumstances outside my influence but very much in reality.

Likewise, the unfortunate things in my career, life, are mostly contributed to by me with only a small fraction of the influence being from other people and circumstances.
When I make good decisions, good things happen.
When I make poor decisions, bad things happen.

Its the bad decisions I made in the past that allows me to make good decisions in the present.
Its how wisdom works.

You can read about how a hot burner on a stove will burn you.
You can listen to others tell you how a hot burner on a stove will burn you.
If you have intelligence, you can gain wisdom from 2nd hand knowledge like that and never get burnt by touching a hot burner on the stove.
But, even with intelligence you will not KNOW you get burnt by touching the hot burner on the stove.
The only way you will KNOW is to touch a hot burner on the stove and experience the burning sensation in reality yourself.
One is wisdom gained by belief.
The other is wisdom gained by experiencing reality.

Some wisdom by belief is beneficial to your existence.
If you read about and listen to someone telling you not to jump off a high-rise roof. You don't do it even tho you haven't experienced it first-hand.
Your belief becomes reality.

Your God didn't prevent you from burning your hand.
Your God didn't prevent you from jumping off a roof.
You did, based on the wisdom you gained.

Wisdom can be gained from scripture and sermon.
However, that wisdom is wrapped in fantasy.
Its not like reading a warning sticker
"Caution: Hot Surfaces/Burning Hazard"

The problem with religion is it gets lost in the stories used to teach the wisdom. The stories details end up being the focus. The wisdom is implied subtly and often gets ignored.
Then you have people doing insane things in the name of their all-powerful, all-loving, everlasting God.

erm?
The Bible doesn't BELIEVE anything.
Its a book.

As for the 6,000 years.
I think I read somewhere years ago the 6,000 years was a deduction someone used after figuring the ages of the people represented in the Bible?

As for the 6 days of creation.
Not sure which Earth you are living on but this one is still in the process of being made. Ever heard of a volcano or earthquake? Ever heard of tectonic plates shifting,...subduction zones? Ever heard of GPS which indicates mountains are still growing?
If Earth were already created, it would be stable.

We live in a Universe of constant random change.
The heavens above and the Earth below us is not a finished product.
The animals and plants around us are not a finished product.
We are not a finished product.
Every time a new star forms light is being created.
Even light is not a finished product.

Our minds, spirit, soul...whatever you call it is also not a finished product.
We are not the same as we were when we were created or born or reached puberty or reached old age. We are ever changing and changing randomly as we experience reality.

Saying you God created anything is ignorance to the reality in which you exist because EVERYTHING is still in the process of forming.
That 'forming' is random and unpredictable...Chaotic.
There is no defined result or reason for the changes in the Universe.
No divine plan.
The chaotic nature of the Universe proves it in reality.

As for Mathematics being a perfect explanation of reality...

Inconsistent mathematics is the study of commonplace mathematical objects, like sets, numbers, and functions, where some contradictions are allowed. ... A contradiction is a sentence together with its negation, and a theory is inconsistent if it includes a contradiction.

There are no known contradictions in mathematics. That does not mean there aren't, it just says we didn't find any.

The compound statement which are true for every value of their components are called tautology. The compound statements which are false for every value of their components are called contradiction (fallacy).

In math, there are negative values.
In reality you can have 1, you can have 0, but you can't have -1.
In reality -1 does not exist.
Even if there is a spot in reality that is void it is not -1, it is 1 void spot.

There are no negative temperatures.
Absolute Zero mean there is no heat at all.
Its frozen.
It can't get more frozen because there is no heat that can be reduced.

There can be no negative distance.
The shortest line is a point.
At some length, even the point disappears.
At that time, it becomes nothing.

On a practical level, mathematics works fine for explaining that which we can measure and test.
For things we can't measure and test, we use mathematics to try to understand what we don't understand.
The math becomes inconsistent and contradictory.
Our logic then uses these contradictions and inconsistencies to get a working model of understanding until we can actually measure and test, at which time the mathematical model is updated with new, more consistent precise equations.

The fact there are inconsistencies and contradictions in math makes it not perfect.
But, in math, "-1 perfection" is 'tolerated'.

i think dropping money here and there is an excellent way to share to the unknown.

i do it however it's instructed. i am giving because i know God gives and giving is something we should all strive to do and want to do. but i do it for a purpose outside of hoping they get a meal or two. i do by saying, God loves You and God wants me to give this to You. on several occasions i have gotten where they live at, some even have mobile devices and we text/call/talk periodically, and some i have taken out to eat or taken with me shopping or even to Church.

but i am placing a face attached with Almighty God to show He cares by way of using others.

many times we dig our own hole, but unfortunately, it takes more than just our will and desire to dig back out. this is when a good person, or God sends someone along to help.

this is all this is!!