R2, so what do you think of the alien slave farm idea ? Sort of like in 'The Matrix', but the 'garden of Eden' among other gardens, was resupply for the space fleet, and they (or 'god') had some 'special' foods not for the slaves to eat. And it was only one tree in the garden, so maybe that was god's dope plant, and he didn't want to share.
Anyway, the giants didn't work well as slaves, because they went.
Then the sons of the 'gods' impregnated female slaves and those offspring didn't work well as slaves, because they went also.
And after a while, nobody 'went up' anymore, because the mothership, Heaven, had left.
So we are the leftover genetically manipulated next generation slaves for the 'gods' who ever they are, and wherever they are. But since the 'gods' have gone, we have run amok, and ruined the place. We, us, you, everyone is a godless heathen because the alien called 'god' has left the planet.

what is shocking is that two supposedly different people would both have
a visible distinguishing physical characteristic in exactly the same place on
both of their faces

what a shocking coincidence that is...wouldn't you agree ?

All plagiarized going back as far as 4200 years back.

The virgin births Nearest to oldest - Jesus, Perseus, Buddha, Genghis Khan, Horus, Krishna, Mercury, Romulus, the Aztec God Huitzilopochtli and for my Vegan friends the Phrygian god of vegetation - Attis among others. I just love history and the stories that are created as placeholders until engineering and scientific discovery takes its place. Unfortunately, however, many fail to see fiction for what it is.

Let us not forget the world back just 900 years ago outside of Asia had a literacy rate of less than 4% and most stories were passed by word of mouth the least reliable method of all time. We know from studies that if we give a story to one person and have that person pass it to someone else word of mouth and it gets passed on and on by the time it has reached the 100th person the story is nothing like the original first 8%.


Google: "The book your church doesn't want you to read.pdf"
Also "The Egyptian Book of the Dead" you will find where the bogus Noah's arc story comes from etc...

I would spit in the face and never bow down or honor any control element with the track record as in the above Scriptures. Or all the proposed gods to this day. The bible is plagiarized bogus stores going back as far is 4200 years. Not worth the paper it is written on. The Quran is nothing more then Mohammad doing the same thing plagiarizing and riding the coat tale of the Bible. Sadly most people to this day seem to think the bible come about 2000 years ago. No it was combined from a bunch of stories. Many never proven there is zero proof of Jesus and miracles or the resurrection etc... There is not one historical record from Historians of the time that written anything about it. But there is for Mohammad but just as a business man nothing more. If you reverse engineer it you find he was smart enough to see the following of the mass uneducated 97% of the population that could not read or write ready to be exploited. Thus start a new religion and claim to be a holy one. Then have access to control and force change to drive business up for yourself also. Like banning Pork from being consumed in order to force your competitor out of business who relies mostly on Pork sales revenue that keeps him a float.

was it Jesus that resupplied your sack of stones to cast ???
are YOU the pied piper ??

I wish Blake_IAM was still here to ask him what his opinion is on euthanasia
for the mentally unstable......that would interesting to know...

Through the ages various gods and religions have been employed as a means to incite to war and encourage intolerance of other peoples or creeds.

Has anyone actually read a bible? I read the old testement a few years ago.
The god of the hebrews made hitler and mousolini look like saints. mass genocide,
mass infantacide, city after city burned looted and pillaged. the killing of every man woman and child was sanctified and holy. city after city, people after people.If you didnt believe you were killed, and so were your family.
This god demanded sacrifices of animals and the smearing of blood.
Are we talking about the same supposed deity?
And are its folllowers still convinced that everyone else is wrong?
And that they deserve to be killed because of it?
Oh but someone re wrote the bible didn't they? Quite a few times. There is even one written by an american ex dedfence attorney in the 1940's. And he didn't know anything about religion previously. And people still believed they were reading the words of some all powerfull deity.


OT na doesn't exist. especially in some kind of nebulas non defined all encompassing all knowing but non specific sense.

Now we see you for what you really are.

a self-professed believer of God & Jesus, advocating euthanasia and murder for
those he himself deems mentality unstable....

What would Jesus do ?

Hand you a stone and tell you to start throwing ?

Based on just my experiences I would have to say some of the evidence I have encountered can be of those that have Scientific explanations, ie energy from hidden wires in the walls, in other words of things I can debunk as not of the paranormal, but mostly the evidence I have I would say they are actual paranormal entities which are of the good kind, for example someone was sitting on a couch with no one beside them. On my Kinect camera something shows up as a stick figure and sits down right beside them when with the naked eye nothing is there and when asked to give the person on the couch a hug, the entity complied. That cannot be explained away scientifically as anything other than a paranormal entity.

Different is not automatically wrong.

Question - you bring up ' insane ' or similar psychiatric endorsed ' labels ' a lot
Always, with a ' negative ' slant

So, my question is 2 fold

1) Does ' insanity ' scare you ?

2) if it does scare you why ?
If it does not scare you why ?

The majority of people in England do not believe in a god. They are not Muslem, not Christian, not Hindu and not any other faith. It seems reasonable therefore that if you make a claim that most other people disagree with, it is up to you to prove your claim. It is not necessary (and quite difficult) to prove the non-existence of something. Although one famous biologist has written a book in which he claims to have proved the non-existence of god. I must get a copy and see if it is written in normal English and not in complex science that goes over my head.

Just quoting what other men said in books thousands of years ago does not count as proof. Neither to weird things that happened once and are not repeatable. A proper scientific test is something that other people can duplicate. If others consistently get the same result it becomes more likely to be true.

If you put your hand on the hot plate of a cooker and it gets burned, you have a theory which can be tested by asking others to do the same. If everybody who tries that experiment gets the same result it is reasonable to assume that human skin does not like too much heat. For this experiment I'm sure I can say that 'it works' - would you care to try it? People are so sure that this theory works that I doubt any reader here will try it - they don't need to! Nobody is going to say, "My god will protect me, so I will do the experiment and not get burned". If they did, that would be scientifically interesting. If that person could repeat the experiment in front of other people as often as required, it would become very interesting.

However, to become accepted as proof that you don't always get burned, it would require a large number of people to show to others that they don't get burned. At that point the theory would have to be modified to say that some people get burned if they touch a hot plate. If it happens to only one person, a likely explanation is that the person lacks sensitivity to pain. There are such people and they have to be careful what they touch as they genuinely cannot feel pain. Their hands will certainly get burned if left on the hot plate for a few seconds, so that experiment does not invalidate the theory.

I believe it is up to those that claim there is a god either to say they know there is and they are quite happy in that belief (as some have done here) or to try to prove their claim, which has been shown to be a complete waste of time and effort. As far as I can tell, belief in a god is an internal thing, something in your mind which is convincing to you, like people who 'hear voices' in their head. The voices don't actually exist, they are not heard through the ears, else other people nearby could also hear them. They are imagined by people who have a vivid imagination.

Those who are convinced there is a god, while obviously deluded, are no doubt people with vivid imaginations. Perhaps they ate too much cheese the night before they had a weird experience. I've heard this can happen to some people, but I think I must be boringly 'normal' having never had any such experience. As I said before, if you 'expect' something odd to happen then it is very likely you will find it. And conversely, if like me, you have no such expectation, you won't find god no matter how much you try and how hard you look.

Large numbers of men will kill large numbers of other men in a war. Often those doing the killing will have been told to consider the enemy as some sort of sub-human animal. It makes it easier to another person that way. If you think the man you are about to kill has parents, a wife and family, just like you have, then it becomes more difficult to kill others, just because they are 'on the other side'.

I find it hard to understand why Christian priests would 'bless' a submarine before it went to the seas in the second world war to find and destroy other submarines. Somewhere in the bible it says something about not killing other people, but I guess there's a bit written in invisible ink that says it's OK to kill others in wartime.

For me, as a pacifist, it is never, ever, OK to kill another person. In the first world war that means I would probably have been shot. In the second world war I would probably have been able to drive ambulances or some other non-combatant role to help injured people. Let's hope that in any future war, I will be able to help in a non-combatant role. I doubt that at my age I would be able to do anything else!

Men will kill in a heartbeat and with no justification other than "I wondered what it would be like to kill someone".No anger,no self defence,no striving for top dog.

I wonder what you are drinking today.For a man who claims to be intelligent and educated,this series of posts appears to me to be riddled with contradictions,non sequiturs and assumptions.In the past you have provided me with very adequate answers to queries and I appreciate the time and effort expended in researching those answers.Not only do I not accept some of the information provided in this series of posts but several of your comments seem to be at odds with your stated Biblical beliefs.