I'll be there with ya then...

don't take it personal they are not criticizing the religion. its the spelling. domed does not equal doomed. just a word of advice for everyone. spell check and proofread before posting. it helps. may want to clarify it a bit more.

For example had you said non-believers which have not accepted Christ as their savior are sent to hell for eternity. This is because sin, as defined in the Bible, is everywhere and can not be avoided.

The only answer I do know for sure is ... I'd rather laugh with the sinners
than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun...

Amen! Lol!

well, at least I'm not doomed.....

...only the good die young....

The Bible says that all will be resurrected, the just and the unjust. Some into age long shame and some to age long life. During this coming agetime, in resurrection, all those who were not able to hear and to acknowledge the Word of God will sit down at The Lord's table to eat of His truth, and ruled with a rod of iron.

That every knee shall bow, and even includes provisions for those who wish to visit their family members for encouragement.

If we believe all that is written, then what we find is a loving forgiving God who is Lord of Lords and King of Kings, one whose judgment is that the sinner is set free. Of course this does not state that because of this anyone is at liberty to go against the great and mighty God, rather, that there is an additional reward for those who understand and acknowledge what the will of The Lord is.

So there is a reward in view, also referred to as a prize. This reward is something that can be lost, moreover, those who lose it have their reward here in this life, whether that be their ego, their gold, their whatever, that is the only reward they will get if they do not seek The Lord and His understanding of what is going on.

And what is going on can be summed up in one word: redemption.

Christ came to save sinners.

If they meet the criteria, they can go to Folkvang, if they don't they can go to Helheim or Nilfheim or some other place. But it is of little or no concern of mine, they can go to Hy Brasil. The point being is: I have never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music, they say the ladies are insane there and they sure know how to use it!

I think if you take a specific religious type out of it and the "basic rules" are upheld in your heart...love for those around you....I think everybody gets a chance at heaven. We are all suppose to love one another. I never heard to not care for someone because they were or were not a member of my particular faith. Good Question!!!

Did we forget about rotting in hell ?.

Did we forget about rotting in hell ?.

the idea of the post is to say what your beliefs say about those who do not believe the same as you. nothing about who is right or wrong.

In the end, only kindness matters.. not religion.

oh how I wish the world believed that...

The problem with accepting Christ as my Savior is that it necessarily means that I must also accept that God is a desperate idiot who can't handle situations wisely.

In order to accept that Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of Yahweh, I'd first have to believe that Yahweh is in an egotistical war with a fallen angel, and that Yahweh is clearly desperate. So desperate that he had no choice but to sacrifice his own son in a bloody appeasement to himself just to prove something to Satan.

I'd also have to believe that Yahweh solves all his problems using violent methods (because that's what the Old Testament stories reveal to us).

So ultimately I'd have to accept that God is stupid and can't solve any problem using truly wise and constructive methods.

I'd also have to believe that Yahweh is both consistent, dependable and trustworthy (because the Bible says he must be) yet I'd have to simultaneoulsy believe that God is confused and never does things the same way twice (because that's what the stories in the Bible demand is true).

For example, at one point when mankind became sinful God simply wiped out the entire population of humanity via a flood and saved only a few people and some animals in a boat.

But then later (after his first method didn't work) he decided to send his son to be butchered on a pole to save mankind from sin.

Well, clearly if I am going to accept Christ as my "Savior" I must also accept that Yahweh is confused and is desperately trying differnt things experimentally at random.

Since his first method didn't work, there's really no reason why I should place anymore faith in his second experiment. Clearly Yahweh has no clue how to solve problems. He's already displayed gross ignorance and no wisdom at all.

Well, clearly this whole story has no more credibility than the stories of Zeus. Another God who was appeased by blood sacrifices for by some strange coincidence.

Although I don't think it was ever claimed that Zeus was all-wise. I think he was also assumed to have human frailties like a jealous personality, etc. Plus Zeus wasn't a male chauvinistic pig.

So by comparing these two ancient myths it sure looks like Zeus was both wiser and more highly moral than Yawhew.

It is claimed that Yawhew is supposed to be perfect, but the first thing out of his mouth is the commandment, "Thou shalt not have any other Gods before me for I am a jealous God".

Well, jealousy is not a perfect personality trait, so he already stuck his own foot in his mouth before the mythology even got off the ground. His very first commandment proclaims that he has an imperfect human personality.

The whole mythology just shot itself in the foot right off the bat.

Yahweh couldn't possibly be the all-wise all-perfect creator of this universe, and therefore Jesus could not possible be his sacrifical lamb.

Next!

interesting post but it brings up a few question. first. the intention of this post if you had read it from the begiing would be that we are just seeing what everyone's beliefs are. not what is right or wrong. just see what their beliefs say about those who do not believe. so had you been following along you would have seen that. Instead it appears you just did a find (ctrl+f)and looked for the first post with reference to Christ and attacked that. which brings me to the second question. why do you always look to attack something you do not believe in. If it were religion in general you would attack more than just christian beliefs. I suspect the christian religion or someone who has twisted the religion has hurt you in some way. Would you like to expand on this?

I wonder what Vishnu thinks of that point of view. He is after all the creator of time and the destroyer of all things and was around five thousand years before anyone even heard of Moses

do you really want to argue from religious text on which deity is older. seems kind of a waste. since the Jewish God is eternal. always was. always is. seams like Vishnu came around a little late at that point.

but as i pointed out earlier all we are doing is just looking at each others beliefs and how they view what will happen to those who do not believe. gain some knowledge instead of attacking the other person or their beliefs. ask some questions. such as is this a personal belief or is it found in the sacred texts somewhere. give them the opportunity to see if their beliefs are based on what they heard or a legitimate belief of the religion.

Kinda reminds me of my favorite sayings:

"Always look for *God* in the tops of trees. You may never find "Him", but at least you are looking".

I also ascribe to the theory of: "There is no smaller package than someone who is all wrapped up in themselves".

For me, it all boils down to the almighty EGO.

If I ever profess there is nothing greater than myself in this massive universe, please...let it be when you are shoveling dirt upon me.