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Not all Christians believe Jesus is the son of God .
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Edited by
nicejohnny
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Mon 01/04/10 05:08 PM
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it dont matter...we're all gods..
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funches The name of the God whom you say Jesus will bring you to in reality, within the Christian scriptures(Bible) doesn't really have a name funches, the jewish people gave him many names the main one was Jehovah, but Jesus simply called him father as in Our Lords Prayer "Our father in heaven"... Islam therefore Allah acknowledges Jesus but only as a prophet, but Christians accept him as the son of God and of course Islam embraces Abraham and others also from the Christian\Jewish biblical accounts... OK funches Yep both of those religions come from the same background. I don't believe in either. There is no reason to believe either one or one over the other. |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter |
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funches The name of the God whom you say Jesus will bring you to in reality, within the Christian scriptures(Bible) doesn't really have a name funches, DavyJohn...you stated that THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE :AND CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO THIS GOD... since both Islam and Christianity recognize Jesus in some greater capacity in each religion...then why couldn't The Father be Allah |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter is God not present in you also? |
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funches You are correct Allah could indeed be called father, it is just that Jesus said the word father...But I don't think God or Allah is called father in the Islamic faith... Islam says Allah, Jesus says Our father, so both Allah or father = God... funches I think you are seeing it from the Islamic side and I am seeing it from the Christian side... ...OK |
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funches You are correct Allah could indeed be called father, it is just that Jesus said the word father...But I don't think God or Allah is called father in the Islamic faith... Islam says Allah, Jesus says Our father, so both Allah or father = God... funches I think you are seeing it from the Islamic side and I am seeing it from the Christian side... ...OK DavyJohn ...if Jesus is of both the religions in which the Father could be Allah and/or Yahweh....then why would there even be a side....or why would your side be better or more righteous than the other side |
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funches You are correct Allah could indeed be called father, it is just that Jesus said the word father...But I don't think God or Allah is called father in the Islamic faith... Islam says Allah, Jesus says Our father, so both Allah or father = God... funches I think you are seeing it from the Islamic side and I am seeing it from the Christian side... ...OK DavyJohn ...if Jesus is of both the religions in which the Father could be Allah and/or Yahweh....then why would there even be a side....or why would your side be better or more righteous than the other side Maybe they are basically the same religion, but names have been changed to protect or cover up the truth of the matter. |
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The bible can be opened up and its verses referenced to justify a point. We all do it. However, I think God is much deeper than that. God, I believe, really wants us to use the brain we were given and think deeply about things. I could just as easily point to 1Corinthians 15:22 and say that everyone will be saved, which I do believe we already have been, despite other verses that speak the contrary. http://thejourneyofjimmie.blogspot.com/http://thejourneyofjimmie.blogspot.com/ corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all will die, even so in christ shall be saved. Yes people that disobey God like Adam did will die, but people that follow christ shall be saved For as in adam all will die = people who do as adam did will die. Even so in christ shall be save = people who do as Jesus did shall be saved I don't think that you quoted that verse in its entirety. You left out a key word, "All". |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter is God not present in you also? of course, although not as completely since the world is part of me as well |
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We believe unbelievers and who knows of the believers will be brought before the final judgement in Rev. 19. thier they will be judged by thier works and either have eternal life or be done away and the minds of all those who inherit eternal life thier minds will be wiped clean of all knowledge of them as if they never existed. But they do not spend eternity being tortued in hell. This is the 2nd death..Shalom...Miles No those you speak of will suffer in this life and when they are judged. It says all those not found in the book of life are thrown in to the lake of fire... A death by fire is not exactly what i would want but once it is over it is over...Blessings...Miles |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter is God not present in you also? of course, although not as completely since the world is part of me as well if you claim that God is present in you then that in itself explains the parable of Jesus being one with God ......"God and MsHarmony are one" |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter is God not present in you also? of course, although not as completely since the world is part of me as well if you claim that God is present in you then that in itself explains the parable of Jesus being one with God ......"God and MsHarmony are one" AMen |
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Carlin is a clever comedian who is good at twisting bits of truth into outrageous and hilarious political statements. something like Jesus did with parables very similar except that parables are meant to teach a lesson and not meant to be factual which means when Jesus used the parable "God and I are one" it was used to teach a lesson but not meant to be factual that one is too complex to even explain in a forum like this. It is similar to my mother being a part of me,,,genetically she is which makes it a fact, its also symbolic because her values were passed to me and also a part of who I am I take God and I are one to mean God is present in Jesus, without the former, there would not be the latter is God not present in you also? of course, although not as completely since the world is part of me as well if you claim that God is present in you then that in itself explains the parable of Jesus being one with God ......"God and MsHarmony are one" AMen Symbolic not factual |
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To funches I have no side, Islam is Islam and Christianity is Christianity... I am not sure of which faith you are funches OK I am Christian... If I have any righteousness It is from Jesus Christ for sure! I would not think of any boasting from myself Islam is most welcome in my sight, Righteousness belongs to the one who accepts and believes ...In Righteousness because Righteousness comes from God\Allah... OK... |
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To funches I have no side, Islam is Islam and Christianity is Christianity... I am not sure of which faith you are funches OK I am Christian... If I have any righteousness It is from Jesus Christ for sure! I would not think of any boasting from myself Islam is most welcome in my sight, Righteousness belongs to the one who accepts and believes ...In Righteousness because Righteousness comes from God\Allah... OK... so do that mean that your original statement DavyJohn stated that: THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE :AND CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO THIS GOD... can now be revised to include other religions and people that worship a God instead of using your religious beliefs to alienate them and their religious beliefs by insisting that Jesus is the only way to God |
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To funches I have no side, Islam is Islam and Christianity is Christianity... I am not sure of which faith you are funches OK I am Christian... If I have any righteousness It is from Jesus Christ for sure! I would not think of any boasting from myself Islam is most welcome in my sight, Righteousness belongs to the one who accepts and believes ...In Righteousness because Righteousness comes from God\Allah... OK... so do that mean that your original statement DavyJohn stated that: THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE :AND CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO THIS GOD... can now be revised to include other religions and people that worship a God instead of using your religious beliefs to alienate them and their religious beliefs by insisting that Jesus is the only way to God Through Jesus is the only way to God. Says so. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me |
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