It's called faith, people have faith in what they believe or don't believe. it is what it is.

What happens is what God decides, not me for sure.


I believe in heaven, and I think anyone has a chance.

I didn't find your post insulting, per se. What I find insulting is that members, adult members of my species still believe in fairy tales.

Faith? Faith is such a horrible and evil concept. It is little more than an excuse to not think. To believe in the absence of proof. I find faith to be disgusting and revolting. More evil has been committed in the name of some faith than for any other reason. How could anyone look back at history, see all the wars and atrocities done in the name of some faith, and not be revolted by the very concept of it?
Faith is the antithesis of reason.

So...I guess, by that reasoning, we don't have a choice or a say.
good to know good to know

I believe in justice and fairness for all .
If we are not fair and just we are very close to animals in the jungle .

I think they just rot in the ground like the rest of us.

In my opinion, it doesn't matter, all religions myths, and if you care about this planet at all, be creamated when you die, so you don't take up alot of room.

Much respect to all,

Are are truly seeking understanding about this issue or just a skeptic or critic? Either way if you want to better understand faith in Christ and what it means to have a relationship with Him I wouldlove to have an open and honet dialouge with you on these matters.

Just contact me and I will do my best to address your questions, issues and concerns with love and grace.

Abda

just here for the exchange of views and ideas myself. not here to seek understanding or learning. just haven't found religion to have any answers that i consider sensical so i look elsewhere for answers. not critical but indeed i am skeptical as pertains to most things. we agnostics are the most skeptical people on the planet as i see it.

having said all that, if unlike most christians who claim to "know" all about creation, the afterlife and other such supernatural phenomena and you seek understanding of things such as the beginnigs of the universe and the ascension of the species, then allow me to reciprocate your invitation to contact me and i'll likewise do my best to address your questions with equal love and grace. i've yet to have a faithful one take me up on the invitation.

I know I exist.

I believe you do too.

I was raised a Christian (Baptist). According to that traditional teaching, anyone who has not accepted Jesus into their heart as their personal Lord and Savior will go to a place called hell. I currently still consider myself a Christian, however, I am non denominational and I do not believe everything that was taught to me when I was growing up. I consider myslef a Christian because I believe that God exists and that Jesus did die for the sins of the world. As a result of that atonement, all of our sins have been forgiven and all are saved. I do not believe in a place called hell where non Christians go. Christianity, to me, is a man made religion. And although it is based on Jesus, I do not believe that Jesus supports many of the things taught in the name of Jesus. Jesus was not about religions. Mankind created religions.

I agree, that in the end It is Gods choice and depends upon his mercy. But I do believe those who have been given a chance to accept him and reject him instead,,,or ridicule him,, will not find themselves brought home to HIM.

It is very clear what happens in my religion. You are seperated from God.

The scriptures speak for themselves.

Eph 5:4-8
5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Messiah and Elohim. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of Yahweh comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.

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Those few things speak of a mans ways. Not so much of specific acts but of the whole man what truely is inside him/her.


We all know the uncompassionate the climber who will do anything at anyones expence for thier benefit.. These are those. Not to say that evil people will not make it as the scriptures speak of them also.

Gal 5:19-21

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of Yahweh.


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Most of the self seekers will be these people also. That whhy we deny ourselves for the betterment of others.. That compassion real compassion that deep down in a person that we all know who does not know a stranger.

If they do not know of Yahweh or understand was put off but yet did these things they are seen as part of the called ones.

Many are called but few are chosen but they still have that purity in them.

James 1:26-27
27 Pure and undefiled religion before Elohim and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
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We all know these people many of us call them Angels. Its a fitting word for them. Are they just discarded away because they did not understand or realize some things I think not.

Many religions will not preach the book of James because it speaks of works and thats like a screaching chalkboard to them but yet they loose the whole picture. You can not have the fruit of the spirit without having works. It just can't happen.

So is Yahweh Just? Sure he is he knows our hearts and minds better than we do and Rev says so.

Rev 20:11-21:1

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before Yahshua, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.


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The Book of Life our recorded life. What we did how we treated other and were we evil. People are granted a pardon here again but only those in the Book of Life


Yahweh is Just and Fair and Holy... HalleluYah to our King in all Righteousness....Blessings...Miles

The bible can be opened up and its verses referenced to justify a point. We all do it. However, I think God is much deeper than that. God, I believe, really wants us to use the brain we were given and think deeply about things. I could just as easily point to 1Corinthians 15:22 and say that everyone will be saved, which I do believe we already have been, despite other verses that speak the contrary.

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corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all will die, even so in christ shall be saved.

Yes people that disobey God like Adam did will die, but people that follow christ shall be saved

For as in adam all will die = people who do as adam did will die.
Even so in christ shall be save = people who do as Jesus did shall be saved

I believe God is glorious and could save us all, I believe that there are fallen angels which shows that God does not save all, I think that Jesus explained the way to God and those who are given that knowledge and ignore or belittle it will not see God. I believe everyone is given knowledge of right and wrong( a conscious) and those who repeatedly ignore it and boast about this ignorance, will not see God.

Darth Sidious said it best as he was shooting force lightning up Luke Skywalker's pie hole ..

"you have paid the price for your lack of vision"

which means that every religion has it's price for those that do not believe in their Gods therefore the entire Human Race is destine to Hellish limbo

if one God doesn't send you...one of the other Gods will

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE
:AND CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO THIS GOD...

Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, so everyone who who believes through him has found the way, the truth and the new life.

So anyone who does not believe in Christ is lost and will not enter the new life to come, but instead will await the impending judgement of those who did not believe. This was the reason why Jesus came into this world to save the lost sheep of Israel, as the bible says. Does this sound harsh that others who do not believe in Christ are lost I suppose it is, but God, that is the God of Israel has given plenty of warning and plenty of time to understand the gift of his son to the world but again the bible states that the God of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers so that they cannot see see the glory or the meaning of the Christ.

And living a good life means nothing except possibly for the rewards of living perhaps a good life here while you live. Without faith in Christ human beings are lost because God again the God of Israel that is, can only see the righteousness of the Christ which is reflected through those who believe in his gift and who henceforth are saved through this faith.