That all depends on what you understand as being "worship." Most people have no respect for the rest of the world, or for their own bodies or for other people. They kill, and make war, they see enemies at every turn. But there are no enemies anywhere, for all is God, and God is not the enemy.

man.....all that you say is sooooooooooooooooooo true.....in the image of god was not just man but all we have here....so what do we as men do and think....what are our ways.....to view things as if from the perspective of above all actions is to release the hell of seeing cause and effect and to rise to seeing the prupose of all that is created.....religion to save oneself from a doom or to gain merit or favor will kepp the mind from seeing all the wisdom that lie in the very heart of man....as it was said, god rest in the hearts of man...and it was aid god was love....so we see the only god is the heart of man and what is the heart of man, his very own sub-concience, and the great adversary, satan himself, only be the mind of men that believe and fear evil, for the soul purpose of saving themself from it, but in believeing it all manner of evil is commited in the name of jesus christ, when jesus only came to show that religion would nail him to a cross, so that we would beware of the leaven of religion....as religion be just the belief of good versus evil....he did say in the very first book to not EAT or believe of this teaching....not to look at things as good and bad but rather to see their purpose....the bible is the only book i know that condem not one human being for anythign ever committed, as a man that can see as god see that all things need a point of reference for the other to exist.....but if anything serve good it will hate evil, and we were told we could not serve two masters, or one would hate the other, so than wisdom see that one is too serve only one god, truth, and the truth is nothing can become smart or wise as serpents without knowing all of good and all of bad, and the very reason it was said in the manner one judges is the manner you will be judged......so the truth we see must be somehting that does not give a commandment to be good, but rather something we here that make all bad ever committed to make SENSE, such simple sesne that even my five year old sees it and hates no one whom mistreats her, so then no one does, and all around her lift her up, as if something does not see evil, there is no more hard lessons to be learned, lol.....why is was said seek to save your life and you lose it, but lay down your life and you gain it.....so something must be heard that make all good and bad to blend together, or have the same good purpose, as it was said all things work together for GOOD.....good and bad work together.....just as night without day, and not one here would ever have any comprehension of what the other was if we had not SEEN them with our very eyes.....to be free one must only see the pruopse of a man killed, and it ccant be a reason that incite fear, as perfect love or understanding is never fear, and to think that a hell was created was man is as opposite the teaching of all the bible as that we are all perfect when we get here....we are hear to learn wisdom, that lie within, as it was aid the kingdom of heaven lie within, and anything that say go here or there is anitchrist, or simply anti truth, as god was called truth.....jesus had a father, his perfect self in another place that whispered in his ear just as ours does, and we he said were like him in every way, so than we each have our perfect father, just US in a better body that can handle things 1000 times more intense than this one, and that can travel without effort but simply by will......the will of the father was said to be perfect, and the father was called god, and the scripture clearly say where god rest.....in the hearts of man! so the wwants of a man minus the desire to be good which is to try to save himself be the perfect will of us and god, one in the same.....was it not spoken that he said, "let US make man in OUR image.....we were all there as it was even spoken before the foundation of the world, the meanig of predestination....the meaning of all things can be unlocked when one see that the only sin of man was not to believe on jesus, and what did jesus say, all things work togther for the good of creating the understanding that we do not and never will contain anything, so to try to be something is to never be ones own perfect self, but to rather come to naught as it was spoken enoch did was to come to the realization that we are to be NEUTRAL.....or 0......to come to neutral is to become everything around you as all flows thru you, and then no mind can control but rather all that one do is from a whole or renewed mind.....a gathering togther of the concience and subconcience mind that they work together and no longer walk in doubt, as the concience mind can never come to a place where it can learn to believe all that is truth, as the concience mind has no point of reference for things that can be outside the five sense of past experience, and why it was said that the place he had gone to prepare just like every other one that has passed on was greater than the human minds imagination....it was not said to not imagaine, but to gop beyond our greatest imagaintion to get a glimpse.....so then we see that all the imagaintions we see all around us from men that make movies and tv and books hold each a piece of the whole truth....all the gifts of singing and martial arts and great memory and dancing and running and climbing and etc, etc are each a piece of what a perfect creature called a god contain, and we then know why he said the palce he went to prepare was so awesome.....it is all that each child even still rememeber when they get here, and they remember as trhey are not long removed from there, lol......it was and is a story of the greatest fairy tale ever told and why many will be surprised whenit is unfolded, as a great protrait is revealed only whehn it is complete, even as a great building is unveiled when the structure is finished....why he said his part when he dies was finished.....his role in the grand illusion was done....so we each have a grand role and why it was said all men are creatted equal....what can be equal if there be a sub species that resist the will of god....did it not say that noe could resist the will of god....that god hardened pharoahs heart....so if god did so to one man he must do to all, and indeed our hearts are hardened to this truth the moment we enter this world, as everything around says to worship good and evil, but see not that simple reason for both.....just my subconcience

You subconscious speaks the truth.

if god just be truth as it was said, than all the scriptures and each science bear the same truth and can come togther in peace.....to worship truth in each other, as no truth exist outside of a mans thoughts that has any power, as truth be a living thing that can change tomarrow, not the past, so than truth has to have somehting to live in that is alive and breath, just as it wass spoken no man has ever seen the face of god, as god has no face, he is only truth....and why only men have come from all down thru history each only telling of what they seen as histroy is nothing more than a child that when it is grown give up the secrets from the beginning to the end, and why the truth in this time of all men creating togther the next world to come will be one that has never all been heard before....the child civilization was not grown.....but then if anything be grwon will it not do the same thing the parent do....and the parent created a universe.....kinda like i tell my daughters, we were all put here to learn that each other was wise and equal, and we can't know truth till we see all of everything is a piece of the truth, and the very reason that is was said a new city would come that would have twelve gates, the twelve tribes of isreal, all the way down till now.....all relgions make up the total sum of the truth......there was said to be only one gate to enter in, TOTAL TRUTH CAN NEVER CONDEM OR SAY ANOTHER IS WRONG, BUT ONLY SHOW HOW EACH IS AND WAS ALWAYS CORRECT, AND WHY IT WAS AID ALL MEN WOULD COME TO A TIME WHERE ALL WOULD CRY FOR PEACE, PEACE.....HOW CAN ALL MEN WANT PEACE? SOMEHTING MUST COME THAT HOLD THE KEYS TO ALL TRUTH THAT MAKE ALL LOVE EACH OTHER AND BEAT THE PLOWSHEARS INTO SWORDS, AND A SWORD WAS NEVER TO KILL, BUT A SWORD OF TRUTH THAT PROCEED FORHT FORM THE MOUTH OF GOD, TURHT IN EACH MAN.....no doom shall befall the planet as we will stop it all together collectively and al we have done since the beginning of time has been to even prepare the planet to be renewed.....there it was said would be peace on all the earth.....so what shall be able to make this but one grand story of truth that condem NONE!

Well that would be nice if that were true....And if you truly believe that...you need a reality check. And I mean that with all due respect....but there are brothers killing brothers, wars everywhere and if you don't see it...then you need to open your eyes and have a serious reality check....What I find interesting is that all that is happening was foretold....

When has reality ever been different in all of mankind’s history?

You tell other people they need a reality check, yet you delude yourself with the delusions that prophecy has some kind of reality when it fact, nothing is any different now than it’s always been.

On the contrary, compared with WWI and WWII and other wars the earth is basically in a state of tranquility right now. When has there ever been a time when the entire planet was simultaneously at peace???

You allow the NEWS to delude you. Less than 5% of the population is involved in violent hostilities of any kind on every level. That means that 95% of the world is at peace.

If you focus on sin and violence that’s what you'll see.

AMEN!!!!

What is perceived as real is real in it's affects...

Jeannie,

Ican create many things left to my own devices to do so.

There has always been less inspired and jealous and envious competitors that would seize that creativity and make it their own.

Not fun and joyful to be the inspiration for monkey see and monkey do. But I plod on and do new things when it suits my need once what I start is finished and I may move on to something fresh.

Perhaps that has happened to you in the past. Being usurped and stepped over and shoved aside and being told, " I got this!" is not love nor is it reciprocal nor is it any just exampole of my fellow man being mutually respectful and dignified in his theft.

Such as it is with God, too!

He speaks everything into existence quite nicely. He doesn't need my help to improve His capacity to awe and inspire creativity, nor would it be likely that that should ever change.

I rest well comforted in the knowledge that God is in His right mind at all times.

I don't see him giving the Living Word away to created beings any day....EVER!!! it is a ludicrous idea. certainly not a very well thought out concept, especially coming from one of his own making.

Someone tried that once and muddied the waters for you and I.

Perhaps that is the source of the clever distraction that has you so confused about the true content and character of God.

I will continue to adore His attentions and worship Him freely.

I've done worse and gotten far less from the efforts.

As far as His needs go for entertainment from me, I rather experience something entirely different.

His friendship and love. His fellowship and the constancy of our relationship. I have nothing to be jealous and envious of from God. His love is equally clean and full with all that know and are known of Him!!!

You miss the point. Your choice.

Not foretold at all. History just repeats itself...

The only reason there are "brothers killing brothers" is that they are ignorant and do not know God and that they are killing themselves. They are killing the body of God.

If you do harm to others, you do harm to your Christ Jesus and to God. Love thy neighbor as you love yourself. Love thy enemy. Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk. Forget what you see when you see brothers killing brothers. You see ignorance when you look at that. Don't follow the blind into battle against a perceived enemy. Love all, that is what Jesus truly taught. The Church has twisted his message into war for their own purpose of conquest. Don't follow the blind into battle against God. All are God. There is nothing else.

JB

The merits of your own convictions are your own entitlement
Abra.

Keyword in your Dreanscape #2 is "FROLIC".
I fail to see how you liken this poignant character trait given your impressions of gods as being anything but vain and delusional. Remember, Abra, your world view is inclusive of many gods speaking their mind and being creative and then coherent in the attribute as having been in accord to do so. If that were true, then mankind itself would represent that assumption in its' collective behavior. That doesn't explain the presence of thieves, at the least, and doesn't require further analysis to see the hypocrisy that is being spawned in the contradictions within you suggestions about the content and character of God.

How can you convert a Jesus freak? Never happened before. I know you're not intent upon converting me.

But Jesus doesn't teach pantheism. I showed you how errant your quote from Psalms was with the words themselves in another thread and I am certain you have perused it. You never miss a beat and an opportunity to preach your world view on JSH.

Not to mention the fact that the Living Word cannot be a shared obligation. That is a redundancy not reconcilable with any justifiable purpose.

As for merit, that is your choice . I see no merit in your comparison to Jesus. The Pharisees may be pantheists but not Jesus Christ. He was quoiting on of their songwriters, Abra.

Which, by the way, is part of the myth that you can't differentiate from the truthful answer od scripture in the purposeful inclusion of it as a canonical inclusion. The backdrop is contextual to the statement attributed to jesus Christ some centuries later, which also is hearsay as you point out.

Yet you insist on citing such things as "ye are gods" as though pantheism is justified whereas in the same breath Christianity is not.

It is a game, Abra.

You made it. What are your rules then if you don't follow them.

The mirror only shows the reflection pointed its way, Abra.

SQUARELY!!

ALL I CAN SAY TO THAT IS












WHEWWWWWWW

you are kidding, right?

God is a disrespectful and murderous horde?

As you said, "for all is God".

Nothing you say makes any sense.

This is why the detractors and skeptices that are so annoyed by Christ and His friends and deliberately antagonize that which is completely unkonwn to them; for ideas like this.

It makes no sense at all. How much less whatever else can be said in defence of such choices for a definition of God?

It makes no sense to those who do not realize that all is God. For those who do, the killing stops and love begins. For self realization is the realization that you and all are one, and all is God. Until then, you believe you are a man surrounded by enemies and chaos and you seek refuge with people who think like you do and support you against your perceived enemy. This is the veal that is drawn between you and who you are for the purpose of creation and the game. All you have to do is to remember who you are.

Let the end of Killing comence then.


I will be waiting for the news.

The killing continues because ignorance continues.

I am referring to Israel and right now abra.....This is all foretold......And believe me you........Christ will be back and he will take the reins of power....whether you want it or not.....

And you my sweet are very wrong....It is very different now....check out the history of Israel...Check out what is happening right now....and check out the Bible for what it says about Israel....and Gods people....check it for yourself oh mighty abra god......

And you my friend are in major denial if you don't see all the crazy on this planet right now.....Go ahead abra and spew your statistics...I could also come up with ones that show you are wrong...but why bother. I am not talking about just war as in world wars I am talking about wars in the street...gangs and kids killing kids...and all the caos with the kids on this planet......With drugs, and alcohol, and gangs. I could show you many many statistics........

I am laughing here....your crazy if you think that their is nothing but peace with 95% of the world......Get a grip abra.....this world is a mess in every way.....from all I said above to the state of the planet and animals all of it....And my sweet man just because you seem to think that you can wish something isn't there doesn't make it so.....

That is so much propaganda I feel like rebuking all over the place.

But geeeze I don't want to get started on the scourge of the Godless zionists/communists who run the country of Israel, and build walls, bull doze people's houses, and kidnap and torture.

They hate Christians like you you know.

They are not real Semitic Jews anyway and they are not "God's People." They are the ones who "claim to be Jews but are the "synagogue of Satan" that even the Bible mentions. The real children of Israel were Semites, and dark skinned people. Most of them have been wiped out by guess who? ~The synagogue of Satan.~ If there is anything you want to call "evil" on this earth it is the political movement called "Zionism." It's worse than Communism. These impostors are not Semites and are not "God's people." (If they are, then you have mistook a demon for a god.)

If Jesus comes back and discovers all "his people" have been slaughtered by these impostors, I won't blame him for what he does. (But of course I don't believe any of that story either.)

Once again jeanie you have missed the point.....Israel will go back to being God's peoples land....that is what is foretold....Oh oh oh oh ok jb you just believe that......Believe what you wish..........and I guess we will see.....

You would love that. I do get a kick out of some of the 700 club Christians talking about the end times and how happy they will be when all the destruction takes place and their Jesus takes over the dictatorship. They speak so sweetly of the coming Armageddon. What a bunch of crazies. Geeeeze.

Ain't gonna happen. Sorry.

JB

We will see my sweet....we will see......