I believe reality is subjective, so what seems delusional to you could be reality to me and visa versa.

There is a good possibility that everyone is delusional.

I have considered for a long time, that we are perhaps living in a holographic (holodeck) type reality, programed just the way we want it, filled with many games and many puzzles to solve.

But I am quite sure it doesn't matter.

this is the matrix.

art imitates life.


Luigi Pirandello wrote stories like these in the 1800s, but the stage plays only afforded limitations that concentrated his muses to dialogue.

One of my favorites ie, "Right you are, if you think you are".

Another is, 'A ball of string."

I'm not even gonna touch that one JeannieBean

It was said god is LOVE, so LOVE is god, and have no other GODs (plural) before me/love, so love nothing more than LOVE, as it was said LOVE god with all your heart, mind and soul, so love LOVE with all your heart, mind, and soul....and it was said love your neighbor as yourself, so LOVE the love/god IN you and YOUR neighbor, and every last god damn neighbor i see LOVE love, so what the hells the problem with anybody, and why it was said go and be ye therefore PERFECT as your father in heaven, and it was said the father of all was god.......LOVE!!!Adam and eve.....a LOVE story Samson and Delilah.....a LOVE story......Joseph and Mary.....a LOVE story.....Jesus their child, a LOVE child.....LOVE on a cross....self-sacrifice when is love is NO sacrifice....want to.....so true love will WANT to.....go and be ye therefore your perfect self, and if anybody come and condem OTHERS and say they are wrong....their are many anti-cgrist already in the world....IT IS AGAINST LOVE....AND TELL THEM LIKE I DID.....LEAVE HER THE **** ALONE, YOU BROOD OF RELIGIOUS VIPERS AND I SHALL WHIP YOU WITH THIS WHIP TO TRY TO SHOW THEM TO NOT LISTEN TO RELIGION THAT SAY YOU ARE NOT PERFECT!!!

Who the hell does anybody know that dosen't worship/wish LOVE as the greatest wish for themself?

Debate not the scriptures.....cause it will make you see and feel hate, as all the scriptures are just a LOVE story, and seperate you from LOVE, and hell was only said to be a place where many would be "seperated from god/LOVE....where the **** are we right now and so why are we in hell......we see not that GOD IS LOVE, AND LOVE IS GOD.....NOT A BEING OTHER THAN MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN.....

WHY IS SAID JUDGE NOT OR YOU WILL BE JUDGED THE SAME....JUST TO SAY IF YOU LOOK AT ANOTHER AND NOT SEE THAT THEY WISH FOR THE SAME THING AS YOU.....LOVE.....RELIGION MAKE WAR, LOVE MAKE GOD/LOVE TO EXIST. LOVE IS PATIENT, KIND, LONG-SUFFERING, SLOW TO ANGER (never said didn't get mad, lol) SO THE TRUTH HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE THIS.....NOT TRY TO BE LIKE THIS.....AND ALL ARE PREFECT IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN MAKE ALL TO FEEL/LOVE LIKE THIS WITHOUT ANY ****ING EFFORT AT ALL.....I THE BEGINNING WAS GOD/JUST LOVE.....AND WE SHALL MAKE MAN.....ALL PEOPLES BEFORE THEY CAME HERE MADE EARTH, AND MAN....JUST DON'T ****ING REMEMBER....BORN INTO THE WORLD SPEAKING LIES....YOU WILL NOT REMEMBER AND THINK AND SAY DIFFRENT....LIES......BUT I SHALL BRING ALL THINGS TO YOUR REMEMBERANCE.....SO DESTINY/LOVE/GOD CONTROL OUR MEMORIES......AND THE BOOKS SHALL BE OPENED AND ALL JUDGED....EACH LIVING THIS IS A BOOK OF LIFE.....WRITTEN EPISTELS I SHALL MAKE.....LIVES BEING LIVED, BOOKS/SCRIPTS WRITTEN BEFORE WE GOT HERE LIVED OUT.....THE GRAND ILLUSION......JUDGE NOT....CAUSE IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE GOT CONTROL......CHILDREN OF GOD....A CHILD GOT NO CONTROL OVER A ****ING PARENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELPLESS!!!!!!!!!!

AND YOU SHALL BE LED AS LAMBS (HELPLESS) TO THE SLAUGHTER......HAVE TO LIVE AM UNFAIR DREAM....BUT YOU WILL WAKE UP......THE BOOKS OF LIFE WILL BE OPENED......SO MENS MINDS WILL BE OPENED AND THEY JUDGE THEMSELVES.....ALL MEN WILL CRY PEACE PEACE.....LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE...WHO THE HELL BAD WITH HATE WISHES FOR PEACE....NONE....SO ALL WILL LOVE AND WISH FOR PEACE......and then shall come sudden destrction.....after a millenium of 1000 years of peace......2000 MILLENIUM!!!! to 3000......then COME sudden destruction.....in 3000....not a day before!!!! Sudden destruction...the earth made again the next cycle, by who......our unborn children!!!

and many will come in the name of Jesus, and i/god/love will say to them, DEPART FROM ME, I KNEW YOU NOT......so anything that comes to people and condem will say....GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME.....GOD IS JUST LOVE, AND LOVE IS JUST GOD.....NOT A THING SOMWHERE IN A BIG CHAIR WAITING TO DAMN ANYBODY.....as the only throne ever mentioned was said god/love sat at the throne, and it was said GOD/LOVE REST IN THE HEARTS OF MEN......SO THE ONLY THRONE IS IN MENS HEARTS, SO LOVE IS THE THRONE...THE GREATEST THING TO BE WORSHIPPED....WORSHIP GOD....WORSHIP LOVE....WE ALL ALREADY DO......IT IS OUR GREATEST DESIRE ALREADY AND ALWAYS WAS......SO IF WE SEE IT NOW.....IT WAS SAID TO THE DICIPLES.....HE HAS ALREADY COME AND YOU DID NOT KNOW IT???? WISH FOR LOVE NEVER LEFT.....JUST LOOKED AT RIGHT AND WRONG....TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.....STOLE IT FROM US, ADAM AND EVE...STOLE IT FROM THEM.....WE GET IT BACK BY SEEING THE TRUTH, AND GOD IS THE TRUTH, LIFE, AND WAY......

AND IN REVELATION.....THE LAST HORSEMAN THAT COME, RIDE OUT WITH TRUTH WITTEN ON HIS SADDLE........IT IS ONLY TRUTH THAT SHALL COME BACK TO MEN!

And let no MAN decieve you, as any that come as a god/love will not condem, just as Jesus did not condem anything but the leaven of RELIGION......good and bad versus evil!!!!

And i John seen as a glass SEA peoples and nations rise more than any MAN can count....i shall cast all your sins into the SEA of forgetfulness.....and the SEAS were all dried up.....all hate shall be GONE, without one drop of blood shed.....AS THE ANGEL/TRUTH SHALL COME AND AMKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS......all those that think god is hate shall be converted to LOVE.....NOT ****ING MURDERED......and the blood shall run forth deep to the bridle of the horses at the great battle of armageddon......
.....HORSEMAN WITH TRUTH AND THE LOVE/BLOOD OF CHRIST SHALL CLEANSE YOU FROM ALL YOUR SINS/CONDEMING ANOTHER.....LOVE SHALL BE AS DEEP AS TO THE SADDLE OF THE HORSES/TRUTH......NO DOOM AND ANY THAT COME AND JUDGE/DOOM SHALL BE CAST IN TO THE LAKE OF FIRE.....WE LIVE ATOP THE LAKE OF FIRE, UNDER US...A LAKE OF FIRE.....AND WHO CAN RESIST THE WILL OF GOD/LOVE.......NONE!!!! SO NONE ARE LEFT TO BE DESTROYED BY 3000.....ALL LOVE...WENT TO PREPARE A PLACE BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMGAINATION.....THAT ARE ALL AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PERFECT.....LOST TO THINK ONE IS NOT PERFECT!!!! TO NOT BELIEVE MAKE ALL MEN DO THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE....AND YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS.....LOVE, THAT CONDEM NOTHINGF AND SHOW WHY AND HOW THAT NOE ARE BAD......LIST NOT ONE SIN AS GREATER THAN ANOTHER......FOLLOW NOT COMMANDMENTS, AS THEY WERE POPHECYS OF WHAT WILL BE AS IT WAS SPOKEN BY TRUTH.....FOR THE GREATEST COMMANDEMENT IS TO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR.......LOVE, LOVE, LOVE......WHO CAN RESIST THE WILL OF GOD/LOVE......NOTHING......HAD TO SEE NIGHT/BAD TO HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE OF WHAT LOVE IS, OR WOULD HAVE PRIDE AND BE CAST TO EARTH TO GET RID OF IT...AND THE SERPENT/SATAN/PRIDE.....EACH THING COME HERE TO SCHOOL......TO LEARN THE OPPOSITE TO ONLY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IMMORTALITY/LOVE/PLEASURE BE WHEN GET THERE TO HEAVEN.....AND THE KINGDOM OF HEAEVEN BE WITH!!!! AND GOD/LOVE DO ALL THINGS FOR HIS PLEASURE!!!!! NO EFFORT.......

and one shall come and decieve the saints......the beast.....the great harlot......and try to eat the child as soon as it is born.......the child of LOVE.....religion shall try to EAT the child.....eat of the tree of life and none other....the great beast (religion) shall eat LOVE......no doom.....no doom.....a LOVE STORY FOR ALL.....THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST, AND THE LAST FIRST......THE LOVERS WICKED SHALL BE THE FIRST TO TAKE EAT THE LOVE, AND THE LAST RELIGIOUS SHALL EAT, JUST LAST!!!

OK...SORRY FOR THAT GUYS....JUST HAS TO GET IT OUT OF THE ****ING MOUTH...WHEW.....THAT WAS MONTHS COMING, LOL......AS A MAN THINKETH SO SHALL HE BE.....ALL THAT WAS CREATED WAS SPOKEN.....CANT MAKE REAL IN US TILL IT BE SPOKEN, AT ANY COST......SO SORRY AGAIN FOR HOGGIN THE THREAD.....LOVE YA ALL MAN...

be careful less ye entertain angels unaware.......all humans are angels, as many think already.....angels came in revelation.....just anybody that say truth/love.....the whole ****ing world wish for love but religion good/bad steal, only because of fear to be wrong and lost people preach fear/religion.......ONE GOD.....TRUH/LOVE......many other gods.......all peoples....and greater signs and wonders shall be used to make all believe in love and to throw down their swords....beat their swords in plowshears.....harvest the people/love.....love shall reign again.....lennon.......imagin....he seen it!

Read each posts of yours.

At first, it was like one hand on ice and the other in a fire pit.

Until I just let go of that which separated us (meaninglessly), to focus on your loud, sincere and authentic outburst for 'LOVE'.

What matters not, is the different and personnal relationship you and I have of, or with 'god'.

What matters is the pure light which emanates from that personnal relationship with 'god' of yours.

As you write very clearly, 'DEBATE NOT THE SCRIPTURES'!!!

That would be like someone arguing with me about my personal conception of 'god': this ALL/NOTHING, immaterial, impersonnal and 'unknowable' (to my human senses), energy of entity of which something other than what 'I' know of 'ME' is an inseparable and intrinsinc part. It would be futile. It is unfounded, as is yours, and as faith or belief has it, it is meant to be unfounded, other than to the one believing.

You, my friend, seem to have embraced and transcended the scriptures, and clearly have 'gotten' the essence of its gift, if it were.

I truly see in you a 'partner' capable of recognizing above and beyond your own personal beliefs, that which is essential, real, and authentic in everyone else on this planet, regardless, and including different faith, beliefs, or dogma.

I could be wrong, but I think the spirit spoke even louder then the words you wrote, and entered those 'open doors' on this forum, ... maybe!!!


Thanks!

I don't get it !!

If the truth/god is love than anything that is all the truth will make you happy, as love make all happy and blissful.....does not each human wish to be loved most of all......than who be wrong, and not perfect?

the story of WHY your grandmother PASSED must make HAPPY!!!

SHE IS NOT DEAD, BUT NOW ALIVE IN A PLACE SHE NEVER HAS TO FEEL ANY PAIN AGAIN......WHAT GRANDDAUGHTER THAT LOVE THEIR PRECIOUS GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT JUMP AND SHOUT FOR ANOTHER THEY LOVE TO BE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY, AS SHE IS THERE NOW AND SEES YOU AND HER HEART SCREAM OUT TO YOU BE NOT SAD....IT IS BEAUTIFUL HERE AND CANT WAIT FOR YOU TO SEE HOW AWESOME.....I FEEL A YOUNG GIRL AGAIN....I CAN JUMP....I CAN DANCE.....I ALWAYS LOVED TO DANCE WHEN I WAS LITTLE GIRL.......SMILES, SMILES, SMILES!

I have no idea what Davidben is rattling on about.

The idea that Jesus might have actually been a pantheist is actually a very loving idea.

It's just offered as food for thought for anyone who might be interested. No debates necessary. It's not an assertion of fact, it's just a possibility that has as much merit as any other possibility.

Embrace it or reject it freely as the holy spirit of your own heart lovingly guides you in your path.

Keep in mind that the Jews themselves did not believe that Jesus was their Messiah. So there are entire religions out there that entertain alternative explanations for the life of this man named Jesus.

If the Jews themselves can maintain that one of their very own was not the incarnation of the God of Abraham, then surely it should be respectable for others to consider alternative explanations as well.

After all, if the Jews don’t believe that Jesus was a misunderstood pantheist, then I guess they must think he was an intentional lying blasphemist. Or do they just deny that he ever claimed to be God? What do the Jews think about Jesus anyway? We never hear that side of the story.

Daviben1 needs to start his own thread. He makes no sense at all and I'm sorry to say, he sounds like he needs professional help. He makes no sense,... other that he says that God is love. That does NOT require that he need to ramble on so much.

jb