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Topic: Coronavirus
SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Fri 05/01/20 01:21 PM

Oooooo can tell your on lockdown :sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

Lol, I'm just quite good and fast with searching the net for info I require.
Lockdown hasn't really affected my life much as I don't work. So I'm home and/or alone as much as normal. The one thing that did impact my life was not having a car for 3 months. But thank goodness that has been sorted!

Duttoneer's photo
Fri 05/01/20 02:00 PM


Oh I see, so the jungle camps at calais were proprganda :sweat_smile:

Just good to realise that you in the UK are focused on that as that is your point of entry into the country.
We have our own, just about every other country since we're not so lucky to only have one.
It is bad everywhere in Europe, at least Western Europe. Few years back during that insane influx (2015?) we had truckloads come in, and Germany accepted too many too, just like The Netherlands. There were videos of Germans who were evicted from there homes to make space for refugees. The Germans having to 'camp' in old schools and the like as they suddenly had nowhere to live.

The English should really get their heads out of their @$$es, no offense. When our English friends began to come over regularly we (my then partner and I) soon realised they didn't know Jack of what was going on here on the mainland. Apparently the UK media is very censured while here these things were on the news daily.
So you can continue to feel sorry for the UK or open your eyes and realise it's as bad or possibly worse everywhere in (western) Europe.

To give you an indication: A quarter of all are absorbed by Germany & France. UK is not the lowest but very low on the list.

In 2016 Germany took on 59,9% (!!!) of all, UK only 3,3%.
So Germany is Nr1 to bear the brunt, then France. Hell, even Greece & Italy have taken on more than the UK!



Since we decided to leave the EU and since leaving, approximately 3.5 million people from the EU expected to apply for settled status to stay here in the UK. They may not all be refugees, but how many million people have the EU taken in? The numbers from the UK in to the EU are approximately 0.75 million (2017 figures). The UK is a very small country, the population is now 68 million and it's becoming a bit over crowded here, there are 9.2 million people now living in London. So it's not surprising we are having to close the door on immigration, and adopt an Australian points based immigration system so the numbers of people coming in to the UK can be managed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46632854

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Fri 05/01/20 03:03 PM



Oh I see, so the jungle camps at calais were proprganda :sweat_smile:

Just good to realise that you in the UK are focused on that as that is your point of entry into the country.
We have our own, just about every other country since we're not so lucky to only have one.
It is bad everywhere in Europe, at least Western Europe. Few years back during that insane influx (2015?) we had truckloads come in, and Germany accepted too many too, just like The Netherlands. There were videos of Germans who were evicted from there homes to make space for refugees. The Germans having to 'camp' in old schools and the like as they suddenly had nowhere to live.

The English should really get their heads out of their @$$es, no offense. When our English friends began to come over regularly we (my then partner and I) soon realised they didn't know Jack of what was going on here on the mainland. Apparently the UK media is very censured while here these things were on the news daily.
So you can continue to feel sorry for the UK or open your eyes and realise it's as bad or possibly worse everywhere in (western) Europe.

To give you an indication: A quarter of all are absorbed by Germany & France. UK is not the lowest but very low on the list.

In 2016 Germany took on 59,9% (!!!) of all, UK only 3,3%.
So Germany is Nr1 to bear the brunt, then France. Hell, even Greece & Italy have taken on more than the UK!



Since we decided to leave the EU and since leaving, approximately 3.5 million people from the EU expected to apply for settled status to stay here in the UK. They may not all be refugees, but how many million people have the EU taken in? The numbers from the UK in to the EU are approximately 0.75 million (2017 figures). The UK is a very small country, the population is now 68 million and it's becoming a bit over crowded here, there are 9.2 million people now living in London. So it's not surprising we are having to close the door on immigration, and adopt an Australian points based immigration system so the numbers of people coming in to the UK can be managed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46632854


Since The Netherlands has the highest population density in the EU -including UK- I can totally understand that.
Loads of eastern Europeans, other non-refugees. To be honest, I don't know what claims the Moroccans use(d) to come here by the thousands? France is in a way understandable as Morocco was a French colony.
Oh well... I'm not a fan of this no-borders-free-moving-in-and-out in the EU either.

Butterfly7's photo
Fri 05/01/20 03:35 PM
several cities in USA have stupid protesters, some with concealed carry -no masks, demanding their state be opened. Some threats have been made to police and politicians. Is it worth it to open FAST and possibly die? I live in Nebraska. we did not have total lock down, but close to it. My soninlaw saw doctor yesterday for injection, said doc was very upset about state re-opening too fast, as he predicts skyrocketing rates of infection/virus. Many are worried about states that are under control getting much more corona if opened up too fast. SLOW is the key....but then, no one has asked me !

LarchTree's photo
Fri 05/01/20 04:34 PM
Lifting weights slowly, focusing on good form, breathing deeply, and thinking about utopia, being thankful for what has been restored to me.

LarchTree's photo
Fri 05/01/20 04:37 PM
Not listening to horror news, but keeping up with what is going on.

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Sat 05/02/20 06:09 AM
Today no big changes from what I can see. We have 445 new cases, Belgium and Germany still improving too.
No change in the USA at all, and oddly enough the UK has 2 days on end with very high numbers again.

delightfulillusion's photo
Sat 05/02/20 06:48 AM

Today no big changes from what I can see. We have 445 new cases, Belgium and Germany still improving too.
No change in the USA at all, and oddly enough the UK has 2 days on end with very high numbers again.


The figures for UK now include deaths in the community, such as in care homes. Before, the figure was coronavirus deaths in hospitals only. Thatโ€™s probably why it looks like thereโ€™s been a surge when in actuality, the figures are on a downward trend.

oldkid46's photo
Sat 05/02/20 07:21 AM
To look at the US based on the total covid cases or death is very misleading because of the physical size and population. In some areas there are several thousand people per square mile while in others you wouldn't find 10. We are also highly diverse in lifestyle between urban areas and smaller, rural communities. It is not unusual to find entire towns with just 1 of each type of business if they even have that.

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Sat 05/02/20 07:50 AM


Today no big changes from what I can see. We have 445 new cases, Belgium and Germany still improving too.
No change in the USA at all, and oddly enough the UK has 2 days on end with very high numbers again.


The figures for UK now include deaths in the community, such as in care homes. Before, the figure was coronavirus deaths in hospitals only. Thatโ€™s probably why it looks like thereโ€™s been a surge when in actuality, the figures are on a downward trend.

They started to do that here too a few weeks back. But I'm not looking at death numbers but new cases. I assume the numbers from homes have always been included?

oldkid46's photo
Sat 05/02/20 08:04 AM
When the outbreak started, most state governments imposed stay at home or lock down orders. While this may have been necessary to immediately get social distancing started, after a period of time, people are going to get fed up with it. For governments, it was the easy way out and most have not figured out how to change from that initial order to actual rules to maintain social distancing while allowing life to somewhat return. That is now the challenge as people are fed up with the mandates and are starting to disregard those mandates. A few states never imposed that level of control but did shut down a number of businesses and social gatherings. They have used that time to develop rules to allow resumption of business and activities while still requiring social distancing and improved hygiene.

Here in Arkansas, beauty shops, barbershops, gyms, and such will be allowed to reopen next Wednesday with a whole new set of restrictions. In restaurant dining reopens on May 11th again with a whole new set of restrictions. Eventually many of those restrictions will be lifted but some may become permanent. Many of those new restrictions will make for a healthier public in the long run despite causing additional inconvenience and additional costs.

delightfulillusion's photo
Sat 05/02/20 08:28 AM



Today no big changes from what I can see. We have 445 new cases, Belgium and Germany still improving too.
No change in the USA at all, and oddly enough the UK has 2 days on end with very high numbers again.


The figures for UK now include deaths in the community, such as in care homes. Before, the figure was coronavirus deaths in hospitals only. Thatโ€™s probably why it looks like thereโ€™s been a surge when in actuality, the figures are on a downward trend.

They started to do that here too a few weeks back. But I'm not looking at death numbers but new cases. I assume the numbers from homes have always been included?


No, the numbers from care homes were never included until very recently.

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Sat 05/02/20 09:09 AM




Today no big changes from what I can see. We have 445 new cases, Belgium and Germany still improving too.
No change in the USA at all, and oddly enough the UK has 2 days on end with very high numbers again.


The figures for UK now include deaths in the community, such as in care homes. Before, the figure was coronavirus deaths in hospitals only. Thatโ€™s probably why it looks like thereโ€™s been a surge when in actuality, the figures are on a downward trend.

They started to do that here too a few weeks back. But I'm not looking at death numbers but new cases. I assume the numbers from homes have always been included?


No, the numbers from care homes were never included until very recently.

I was curious about that, and I don't mean to argue, but it says that now the death numbers of care homes are included, not the number of new cases?
What is see is that the death rate shot up on April 28th so I guess that's due to that new rule concerning death numbers. But I'm not really looking at death rate. I'm more interested in the amount of new cases because that says whether the virus has run its course or not.

My mistake Crystal, I was answering about deaths when in fact you were questioning new cases slaphead

I think we see an increase of new cases because more people are now being tested. The government had a target of 100,000 to reach by the end of April which they in fact exceeded by testing over 122,000. This may be why there is a sudden surge in new cases this past week.

no photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:24 PM
Britainโ€™s covid response .....

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/300003719/coronavirus-biggest-failure-in-a-generation-where-did-britain-go-wrong

no photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:28 PM
Inside the race for a covid Vaccine

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300003578/coronavirus-inside-the-extraordinary-race-to-invent-a-covid19-vaccine

no photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:35 PM
USA authorises Ebola drug Remdesivir for treatment of covid (not a cure but apparently shown to reduce length of hospital stay. Will see if the study is online and if so post a link )

http://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/9b5db95c-347f-48c0-99c9-b6782cc0e12c

no photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:57 PM

China Vs USA....
China release animation video ... โ€œonce upon a virus โ€œ ....in retaliation to trumpโ€™s claims about chinaโ€™s mishandling and lack of transparency concerning covid .


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5BZ09iNdvo

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 05/04/20 10:06 AM
Yesterday 355 new cases, today 199. And for the first time since mid March <30 dead today (26).

Similar trends show for different countries :D

My daughter's already had to go in for work a few times and next week it's back to the office only.
So I guess more things will begin to return to normal. Personally I still feel it's too early for that, but alas... I didn't run for PM.

no photo
Mon 05/04/20 10:38 AM


China Vs USA....
China release animation video ... โ€œonce upon a virus โ€œ ....in retaliation to trumpโ€™s claims about chinaโ€™s mishandling and lack of transparency concerning covid .


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5BZ09iNdvo


laugh
sad, but true. frustrated

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Mon 05/04/20 12:03 PM

My mistake Crystal, I was answering about deaths when in fact you were questioning new cases slaphead

I think we see an increase of new cases because more people are now being tested. The government had a target of 100,000 to reach by the end of April which they in fact exceeded by testing over 122,000. This may be why there is a sudden surge in new cases this past week.


No problem :) This afternoon I noticed Dutch news also reports the death rate, no word about the number of new cases. I must say I find that a peculiar approach. Sure the death rate is important, but the new cases tells about the spread and whether it's slowing down.
Maybe my logic is just different, hihi.

I understand new cases today in the UK is a little lower again. Let's hope it's going down!

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