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God is more than a loving God...he is patient..all us beaching about him not being there..!?..he's in a different time zone..what is forever to human..God..?..he's wondering what happened last night..haha
 
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Moe I.like and respect you but without religion there is no standard for a moral basis. I never said you were stupid. But why do you feel the need to prove otherwise. When there is no proof you can give? There is no proof I can give you except that I have been healed when I can not take meds and am allergic. And not something that could be healed by anything except surgery. I never had surgery and even on x-rays it's healing. I prayed and I prayed. What can I say to you or you to me. I can not say when we pray the answer is always yes but sometimes it is a yes did you and cowboy over look my response? "the bible is a great book for learning morals, it has some great teachings... but is nothing more than a book, written by a human, just like any harry potter or steven king book... " morals can come from anywhere, being a good person doesn't mean anything other than that... there are millions of childrens books that teach morals as well... if you believe god healed you, i won't argue that, it's what you believe... but to say atheists have no morals is not real good thinking on your part, and a bit ignorant... lack of morals and understanding comes in all types of people, and to pin it down on atheists is very wrong on your part... No an atheist has no morals a no direction of morals and is not wrong. I am not trying to make you admit you are religious in anyway. But you are not an atheist either because an atheist has no morals and no basis for morals even if your parents taught you morals and those moral were last down through the generations how do you know where those moral came from. I might have missed a post they are getting so quote long. But still an atheist has no morals period and can not unless they were given direction of morals from somewhere. I do not think it is a reach to say a true athiest has no morals. you're just plain wrong in thinking morals = religion in any way...all atheist means is we don't believe in a god.... shame on you for saying such rude and ridicules statements... No moe atheism means more than that. I am sorry if you are offended. Offense is not intended. So what you are saying is not believing in any god whatsoever. You believe in morals of a god. So even so still not athirst. Yes the Bible was not written by God but by Moses Luke John Mark and so on.....all religious followers a believers of God. Did they get it right maybe not. But I will says this. I do believe you are going to heaven Moe. |
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Moe I.like and respect you but without religion there is no standard for a moral basis. I never said you were stupid. But why do you feel the need to prove otherwise. When there is no proof you can give? There is no proof I can give you except that I have been healed when I can not take meds and am allergic. And not something that could be healed by anything except surgery. I never had surgery and even on x-rays it's healing. I prayed and I prayed. What can I say to you or you to me. I can not say when we pray the answer is always yes but sometimes it is a yes did you and cowboy over look my response? "the bible is a great book for learning morals, it has some great teachings... but is nothing more than a book, written by a human, just like any harry potter or steven king book... " morals can come from anywhere, being a good person doesn't mean anything other than that... there are millions of childrens books that teach morals as well... if you believe god healed you, i won't argue that, it's what you believe... but to say atheists have no morals is not real good thinking on your part, and a bit ignorant... lack of morals and understanding comes in all types of people, and to pin it down on atheists is very wrong on your part... No an atheist has no morals a no direction of morals and is not wrong. I am not trying to make you admit you are religious in anyway. But you are not an atheist either because an atheist has no morals and no basis for morals even if your parents taught you morals and those moral were last down through the generations how do you know where those moral came from. I might have missed a post they are getting so quote long. But still an atheist has no morals period and can not unless they were given direction of morals from somewhere. I do not think it is a reach to say a true athiest has no morals. you're just plain wrong in thinking morals = religion in any way...all atheist means is we don't believe in a god.... shame on you for saying such rude and ridicules statements... No moe atheism means more than that. I am sorry if you are offended. Offense is not intended. So what you are saying is not believing in any god whatsoever. You believe in morals of a god. So even so still not athirst. Yes the Bible was not written by God but by Moses Luke John Mark and so on.....all religious followers a believers of God. Did they get it right maybe not. But I will says this. I do believe you are going to heaven Moe. cool, so i can look forward to my death! |
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Moe I.like and respect you but without religion there is no standard for a moral basis. I never said you were stupid. But why do you feel the need to prove otherwise. When there is no proof you can give? There is no proof I can give you except that I have been healed when I can not take meds and am allergic. And not something that could be healed by anything except surgery. I never had surgery and even on x-rays it's healing. I prayed and I prayed. What can I say to you or you to me. I can not say when we pray the answer is always yes but sometimes it is a yes did you and cowboy over look my response? "the bible is a great book for learning morals, it has some great teachings... but is nothing more than a book, written by a human, just like any harry potter or steven king book... " morals can come from anywhere, being a good person doesn't mean anything other than that... there are millions of childrens books that teach morals as well... if you believe god healed you, i won't argue that, it's what you believe... but to say atheists have no morals is not real good thinking on your part, and a bit ignorant... lack of morals and understanding comes in all types of people, and to pin it down on atheists is very wrong on your part... No an atheist has no morals a no direction of morals and is not wrong. I am not trying to make you admit you are religious in anyway. But you are not an atheist either because an atheist has no morals and no basis for morals even if your parents taught you morals and those moral were last down through the generations how do you know where those moral came from. I might have missed a post they are getting so quote long. But still an atheist has no morals period and can not unless they were given direction of morals from somewhere. I do not think it is a reach to say a true athiest has no morals. you're just plain wrong in thinking morals = religion in any way...all atheist means is we don't believe in a god.... shame on you for saying such rude and ridicules statements... No moe atheism means more than that. I am sorry if you are offended. Offense is not intended. So what you are saying is not believing in any god whatsoever. You believe in morals of a god. So even so still not athirst. Yes the Bible was not written by God but by Moses Luke John Mark and so on.....all religious followers a believers of God. Did they get it right maybe not. But I will says this. I do believe you are going to heaven Moe. cool, so i can look forward to my death! Moe lol I don't care who you are, I do not think anyone looks forward to death. Jesus himself did not look forward to death. |
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your argument only serves to prove that God is a god of love. he allows you a mere mortal man to blaspheme to drag his name in the dirt. you will stand before him one day and be judged but today he loves you makes his truth known to you and gives you this moment to reconsider your decisions. he does that because he loves you. you talk about the cruel things that happen in this world. you recognize them and you recognize the god of Heaven but she failed to Satan who causes all these things. you ask now well if God is a god of love why would he for a Time allow Satan to do such things. he allows Satan because if he chose to destroy him now he would have to destroy you because you are in his bondage his deception his power. yes God is a god of love he loves you so much that he allows Satan to destroy his creation in hopes that you would be saved. to what extent has loved you how great is his love how far is he willing to go. for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life. we look at life and say the grave is the end of the matter. we have it all backwards the grave is the beginning of all eternity. God gives us a choice where we will spend all of eternity. existence upon this Earth is not life it is a choice to either receive the love of God or reject it. but once you step into that grave you will live eternally with the decision you make. you will live eternally either in the presence of God's love or in Satan's hell. the misery and suffering you see in this world is nothing compared to hell. but God loves you enough to let you make that decision. you will no doubt say not so. but in the end you will see that God is God and God Alone
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"but you fail to see Satan"
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This is never an easy question to answer.. I will do my best...
1. What is love?? i must first solidify that answer The best description in my search is given my God, Corinthians 1; 13 ... therefore not only is God a loving God but God is giving us the gift of love |
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And supplies instructions..
For a simple man like me . |
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Because I believe God is..and he is a loving God...if anyone has a spare second ..please say a little prayer for my son..he has court today...just pray that he gets a reasonable fair sentence for his poor choice..
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i just know, JESUS IS MY SAVIOUR
 GOD bless you all |
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There was a bear, caught in a trap, a trap set up by a human capable of free choice.
A man came a long and saw the bear in the trap and wanted to free him, but the only way to do that was to push him further into the trap to get it to release him. The bear doesn't understand the end result, all he knows is this human is evil and unloving because it's currently shoving him into new pain, but this is necessary for the man nto free the bear so he doesn't become someone's rug. The moral is we don't have the whole picture, what we perceive as unloving, may be necessary to free us from a worse fate. |
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Because I believe God is..and he is a loving God...if anyone has a spare second ..please say a little prayer for my son..he has court today...just pray that he gets a reasonable fair sentence for his poor choice..
I will, Kindlightheart..
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thank You
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What year is this? Why is it that number? I know a while back the minority of atheists got upset with BC and AD so now it is BCE and CE. Sounds like semantics to me. It tak more faith and less logic to be an ateist than a believer. Anyone who can say that all we see came about by accident would hav to believe that a tornado in a junkyard "might" produce a flyable Airbus.
There is enough extra biblical proof to verify that Jesus Christ did live, die and resurrected in the early 1st century. No not on Christmas day that was Emperor Constantine trying to placate the pagans with a celebration to exchange for the Winter Solstice. Look at the world around you. One of the astronauts (don't remember name) hen asked if he saw God in outer space said, "No but I did see His footprints." Atheists are loud and demanding and sound like they are more than they really are. Fortunately you are in a very small ignorant minority that deliberately ignores the evidence al around you. a last quote, "One day ALL will kneel before God but only those who chose Him will have everlasting life." I don't hate you because God loves you. |
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Moe I.like and respect you but without religion there is no standard for a moral basis. I never said you were stupid. But why do you feel the need to prove otherwise. When there is no proof you can give? There is no proof I can give you except that I have been healed when I can not take meds and am allergic. And not something that could be healed by anything except surgery. I never had surgery and even on x-rays it's healing. I prayed and I prayed. What can I say to you or you to me. I can not say when we pray the answer is always yes but sometimes it is a yes did you and cowboy over look my response? "the bible is a great book for learning morals, it has some great teachings... but is nothing more than a book, written by a human, just like any harry potter or steven king book... " morals can come from anywhere, being a good person doesn't mean anything other than that... there are millions of childrens books that teach morals as well... if you believe god healed you, i won't argue that, it's what you believe... but to say atheists have no morals is not real good thinking on your part, and a bit ignorant... lack of morals and understanding comes in all types of people, and to pin it down on atheists is very wrong on your part... No an atheist has no morals a no direction of morals and is not wrong. I am not trying to make you admit you are religious in anyway. But you are not an atheist either because an atheist has no morals and no basis for morals even if your parents taught you morals and those moral were last down through the generations how do you know where those moral came from. I might have missed a post they are getting so quote long. But still an atheist has no morals period and can not unless they were given direction of morals from somewhere. I do not think it is a reach to say a true athiest has no morals. you're just plain wrong in thinking morals = religion in any way...all atheist means is we don't believe in a god.... shame on you for saying such rude and ridicules statements... No moe atheism means more than that. I am sorry if you are offended. Offense is not intended. So what you are saying is not believing in any god whatsoever. You believe in morals of a god. So even so still not athirst. Yes the Bible was not written by God but by Moses Luke John Mark and so on.....all religious followers a believers of God. Did they get it right maybe not. But I will says this. I do believe you are going to heaven Moe. cool, so i can look forward to my death! Moe lol I don't care who you are, I do not think anyone looks forward to death. Jesus himself did not look forward to death. |
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Moe I.like and respect you but without religion there is no standard for a moral basis. I never said you were stupid. But why do you feel the need to prove otherwise. When there is no proof you can give? There is no proof I can give you except that I have been healed when I can not take meds and am allergic. And not something that could be healed by anything except surgery. I never had surgery and even on x-rays it's healing. I prayed and I prayed. What can I say to you or you to me. I can not say when we pray the answer is always yes but sometimes it is a yes did you and cowboy over look my response? "the bible is a great book for learning morals, it has some great teachings... but is nothing more than a book, written by a human, just like any harry potter or steven king book... " morals can come from anywhere, being a good person doesn't mean anything other than that... there are millions of childrens books that teach morals as well... if you believe god healed you, i won't argue that, it's what you believe... but to say atheists have no morals is not real good thinking on your part, and a bit ignorant... lack of morals and understanding comes in all types of people, and to pin it down on atheists is very wrong on your part... No an atheist has no morals a no direction of morals and is not wrong. I am not trying to make you admit you are religious in anyway. But you are not an atheist either because an atheist has no morals and no basis for morals even if your parents taught you morals and those moral were last down through the generations how do you know where those moral came from. I might have missed a post they are getting so quote long. But still an atheist has no morals period and can not unless they were given direction of morals from somewhere. I do not think it is a reach to say a true athiest has no morals. you're just plain wrong in thinking morals = religion in any way...all atheist means is we don't believe in a god.... shame on you for saying such rude and ridicules statements... No moe atheism means more than that. I am sorry if you are offended. Offense is not intended. So what you are saying is not believing in any god whatsoever. You believe in morals of a god. So even so still not athirst. Yes the Bible was not written by God but by Moses Luke John Mark and so on.....all religious followers a believers of God. Did they get it right maybe not. But I will says this. I do believe you are going to heaven Moe. cool, so i can look forward to my death! Moe lol I don't care who you are, I do not think anyone looks forward to death. Jesus himself did not look forward to death. Not entiely true. hedid not look forward to being crucified and was distressed when the sins of the world were thrus upon Him and God turned away fromHim. Death was a welcome release because He knew what lay after. What comes after dinner? Even a tripe and cabbage dinner, dessert. The best is always saved for last. there is only 2 things in life we get to do once. Get born (don't remember) and then die. It has got to be the ultimate trip for a believer. I am not trying to hasten my death but I certainly look forward to it. Small story. A little over a year ago I was experiencing intermittent excruciating pain in upper abdomen and back. My eyes were yellow as waere my nail beds. I went to the doc for a blood test thinking Hep C possibly. He comes out and says "good news and bad news. You don't have Hep C or cancer but if you don't have surgery immediately yu wil probably be dead in three days." My reply was "OK I will hav to et busy then and get my dogs put down and give everything away and withdraw my money to give away. Just let the government do what they want with my body since I won't be needing it anymore. I was looking forward to this like a vacation to somepace I always wanted to go. I got home and my fiend asked me what was going on and I told him that I needed surgery and couldn't afford it. He got wit my other friends and neighbors and came up with teh money to send me back up to the states to Phoenix for surgery. Other than the fact that I have no Gall Bladder. I am in perfect health. Two points, death was not something I dreaded or worried about, and I knew that God card enough for me to have strangers lend me money for airfare and a hospital, and doctor to forgo fees. My take is that He has something else in store for me even at 73. Oh yeah there is a God and He loves me, tht is awesome bcause i don't deserve that measure of love but He does it anyway. |
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i don't understand why people think their god is "loving"... the way i see it, anything with that much power is anything but loving...
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i don't understand why people think their god is "loving"... the way i see it, anything with that much power is anything but loving... ...lol..been quoting a line off that show..once upon a time...you can choose one..love or power ..you can't have both....so I will say God is powerless...because he loves...sadly..we all know how it feels to be in love..only to have your heartbroke...we as people can be unforgiving and even vengeful ...sometimes never look back at one that at one time you truly loved...and you find yourself judging and condemning those that remind you of the one you loved...yet you still love..and enjoy being loved...lol..I could go on but i am going to walk my favorite dog..that I love...
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Edited by
Lazarus102
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Mon 10/24/16 01:27 AM
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i don't understand why people think their god is "loving"... the way i see it, anything with that much power is anything but loving... It's called obsession. It's like those people that obsess over rock stars to the extent that they think the rockstar is in love with them and that half the stuff written in their songs is directed at them. But religion is much more of an epidemic and backed up by multiple factors including centuries of bored ignorant individuals fearful of death that got together and stitched together fairy tails which got passed on through the ages until they became "fact". People these days are like beaten housewifes that sit around and just accept everything they're told because they don't feel they can change it or lack confidence in their own intellect to figure things out without an over simplified explanation. I mean we can learn about the molecules and the atoms and the quarks or we can just sit back, wave an arm in the air and say, nothing needs explanation, god did it all, case closed! But imho it all boils down to a lazy, lazy, over-contented society of sheep. It's sad really because we live in the information age but also an age of over-indulgence and instant gratification. We know more than we ever have and at the same time have the least power to change anything. Back in the alleged days of Adam and Eve, one person making a decision could change the world because that one person was 50% of the world's population but now we need millions of people to make a decision in a single direction to make any worthwhile change and that's what's so exhausting about the current world that we live in. Religion is just another tool used by politicians to keep us content until death and once we're dead, we're no longer a problem for them. We do good things and follow the rules of our societies and we get to go to heaven, **** 72 virgins, rub Buddha's forehead or whatever. |
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