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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Wed 12/07/11 10:29 AM
Genesis 2:20
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.


and Adam began his mission to name all the animals..Adam pointed and said...

you will be called a cotton mouthed water moccasin and you will be called a duck-billed platypus and you my friend are a yellow-bellied sapsucker

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Wed 12/07/11 10:33 AM
and Adam said to God...what matter of creatures do these huge bones belong to....and God said BEHOLD they belong to dinosaurs that lived and became extinct millions of years ago.....oops.... I meant to say...they became extinct 2,000 years ago ......oops... I meant to say 5 days ago.....look Adam pay no attention to those bones they don't exist


but anyway there is no evidence of Jesus in Genesis and/or being in The Garden of Eden so far

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Wed 12/07/11 02:34 PM

Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasses the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;


why is there mention of Gold being in them darn hills ....what would be the point of valuable metals ... I guess Adam can use it to pay tithes



Do you only think about money? Gold is a beautiful shiny metal. Only man has put a money value on it.

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Wed 12/07/11 02:38 PM

Genesis 2:12
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


is this how God created the root of all evil and is this why Man will love money because it represent Gold and things that God has place value upon ..to obtain these things is to obtain those things on Earth that God valued and that which represent God

the more money or things of value you have the more of a God you become, the less money and things of value you have the more of a true believer you becomes


Ok, only you're speaking about any money. No money was mentioned in those verses. Only the value on them. Guess you only put value in money? Value can be in how beautiful the gold is, not specifically money wise.

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Wed 12/07/11 02:40 PM

Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die


reminds me of the first time I tried to cook spaghetti, ...but anyway It's no reference in the bible that would indicate that Adam had a clue what the concept of "die" was or any indication that God explain the concept to him



What does it matter if he knew what "die" was or not? God told him not to, everything else wouldn't matter.

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Wed 12/07/11 03:53 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 12/07/11 04:06 PM


Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasses the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;


why is there mention of Gold being in them darn hills ....what would be the point of valuable metals ... I guess Adam can use it to pay tithes



Do you only think about money? Gold is a beautiful shiny metal. Only man has put a money value on it.


you might unknowingly believe that Gold is a beautiful shiny metal because it was mention in the bible...add an "L" from love and add it to the word God and "the word" can become Gold ...

but the question was, why did the bible mention Gold if God had not already placed a value on it

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Wed 12/07/11 03:59 PM


Genesis 2:12
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


is this how God created the root of all evil and is this why Man will love money because it represent Gold and things that God has place value upon ..to obtain these things is to obtain those things on Earth that God valued and that which represent God

the more money or things of value you have the more of a God you become, the less money and things of value you have the more of a true believer you becomes


Ok, only you're speaking about any money. No money was mentioned in those verses. Only the value on them. Guess you only put value in money? Value can be in how beautiful the gold is, not specifically money wise.


but Gold was mention in the bible and the value of Gold is one of the ways money get's it's value from ...think of money as an I.O.U. for God ...oops I meant for Gold

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Wed 12/07/11 04:04 PM


Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die


reminds me of the first time I tried to cook spaghetti, ...but anyway It's no reference in the bible that would indicate that Adam had a clue what the concept of "die" was or any indication that God explain the concept to him



What does it matter if he knew what "die" was or not? God told him not to, everything else wouldn't matter.


the concept of "die" may have meant to Adam "in favor of God"...this is why it does matter that God did not teach Adam the concept of what to die is ....

also since God supposedly can't "die" then how would God have a clue as to what "die" meant ...but yet God expected Adam to know

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Wed 12/07/11 04:49 PM
I find it interesting that in Gen chapter 2, G-d clears makes Eve through trial and error

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Wed 12/07/11 05:16 PM



Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasses the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;


why is there mention of Gold being in them darn hills ....what would be the point of valuable metals ... I guess Adam can use it to pay tithes



Do you only think about money? Gold is a beautiful shiny metal. Only man has put a money value on it.


you might unknowingly believe that Gold is a beautiful shiny metal because it was mention in the bible...add an "L" from love and add it to the word God and "the word" can become Gold ...

but the question was, why did the bible mention Gold if God had not already placed a value on it


Again, why does that value have to be financial or have to deal with money?

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Wed 12/07/11 05:18 PM



Genesis 2:12
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


is this how God created the root of all evil and is this why Man will love money because it represent Gold and things that God has place value upon ..to obtain these things is to obtain those things on Earth that God valued and that which represent God

the more money or things of value you have the more of a God you become, the less money and things of value you have the more of a true believer you becomes


Ok, only you're speaking about any money. No money was mentioned in those verses. Only the value on them. Guess you only put value in money? Value can be in how beautiful the gold is, not specifically money wise.


but Gold was mention in the bible and the value of Gold is one of the ways money get's it's value from ...think of money as an I.O.U. for God ...oops I meant for Gold


Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.

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Wed 12/07/11 05:19 PM



Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die


reminds me of the first time I tried to cook spaghetti, ...but anyway It's no reference in the bible that would indicate that Adam had a clue what the concept of "die" was or any indication that God explain the concept to him



What does it matter if he knew what "die" was or not? God told him not to, everything else wouldn't matter.


the concept of "die" may have meant to Adam "in favor of God"...this is why it does matter that God did not teach Adam the concept of what to die is ....

also since God supposedly can't "die" then how would God have a clue as to what "die" meant ...but yet God expected Adam to know


Again, that is irrelevant. Does not matter the consequence. God told Adam not to, bottom line. The why's, howcomes, and whynots don't matter one bit.

And why would it be in favor of God for something he created to die?

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Wed 12/07/11 05:22 PM




Genesis 2:12
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


is this how God created the root of all evil and is this why Man will love money because it represent Gold and things that God has place value upon ..to obtain these things is to obtain those things on Earth that God valued and that which represent God

the more money or things of value you have the more of a God you become, the less money and things of value you have the more of a true believer you becomes


Ok, only you're speaking about any money. No money was mentioned in those verses. Only the value on them. Guess you only put value in money? Value can be in how beautiful the gold is, not specifically money wise.


but Gold was mention in the bible and the value of Gold is one of the ways money get's it's value from ...think of money as an I.O.U. for God ...oops I meant for Gold


Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.


Since money was not invented or in use at that current time, here is the meaning of valuable outside of money.

Valuable - having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities

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Wed 12/07/11 06:59 PM




Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasses the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;


why is there mention of Gold being in them darn hills ....what would be the point of valuable metals ... I guess Adam can use it to pay tithes



Do you only think about money? Gold is a beautiful shiny metal. Only man has put a money value on it.


you might unknowingly believe that Gold is a beautiful shiny metal because it was mention in the bible...add an "L" from love and add it to the word God and "the word" can become Gold ...

but the question was, why did the bible mention Gold if God had not already placed a value on it


Again, why does that value have to be financial or have to deal with money?


the value is Materialistic

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Wed 12/07/11 07:07 PM

Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.


the bible mention nothing about the beauty of Gold or that Gold can be used as a super conductor,...the bible only mention Gold and gives reference to Gold...and because it mention Gold places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"

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Wed 12/07/11 07:12 PM

Again, that is irrelevant. Does not matter the consequence. God told Adam not to, bottom line. The why's, howcomes, and whynots don't matter one bit.

And why would it be in favor of God for something he created to die?



if God taught Adam nothing about the concept of "to die"...then for God to mention to Adam that he would die would be pointless

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Wed 12/07/11 07:20 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 12/07/11 07:22 PM

Since money was not invented or in use at that current time, here is the meaning of valuable outside of money.

Valuable - having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities


money like God has alway existed side by side and goes by many names...during the times of the garden of eden money came in the form of Barter

Adam tended the garden and got paid with food

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Wed 12/07/11 07:21 PM


Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.


the bible mention nothing about the beauty of Gold or that Gold can be used as a super conductor,...the bible only mention Gold and gives reference to Gold...and because it mention Gold places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"




You still spreading false gospel funches?


funches mention nothing about the beauty of "Rib" or that "Rib" can be used as a super conductor,...funches only mention "Rib" and gives reference to "Rib" ...and because it mention "Rib" places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"



And we all know what funches thinks a "Rib" is... the exact opposite of what it really is!




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Wed 12/07/11 07:25 PM



Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.


the bible mention nothing about the beauty of Gold or that Gold can be used as a super conductor,...the bible only mention Gold and gives reference to Gold...and because it mention Gold places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"




You still spreading false gospel funches?


funches mention nothing about the beauty of "Rib" or that "Rib" can be used as a super conductor,...funches only mention "Rib" and gives reference to "Rib" ...and because it mention "Rib" places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"



And we all know what funches thinks a "Rib" is... the exact opposite of what it really is!



Peter_Pan...you were spreading some crap about Yahweh taking an angular organ out of Adam instead of a Rib....but fail to explain what an angular orgain is

can you supply a passage from the bible as to what it is

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Wed 12/07/11 07:26 PM




Howso? What does Gold and have anything specific to do with money? Yes, money is used to buy gold, but no one is selling gold especially in the bible. It is a valuable metal because of it's beauty, has nothing to do with money or anything financial.


the bible mention nothing about the beauty of Gold or that Gold can be used as a super conductor,...the bible only mention Gold and gives reference to Gold...and because it mention Gold places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"




You still spreading false gospel funches?


funches mention nothing about the beauty of "Rib" or that "Rib" can be used as a super conductor,...funches only mention "Rib" and gives reference to "Rib" ...and because it mention "Rib" places a materialistic value upon which equates to "want"



And we all know what funches thinks a "Rib" is... the exact opposite of what it really is!



Peter_Pan...you were spreading some crap about Yahweh taking an angular organ out of Adam instead of a Rib....but fail to explain what an angular orgain is

can you supply a passage from the bible as to what it is



Yes...




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