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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Thu 12/08/11 12:33 PM





Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:33 PM






To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:35 PM






Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.

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Thu 12/08/11 12:35 PM







To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:37 PM








To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex


Because God doesn't have to have sex to create a person. He can do it at his will.

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Thu 12/08/11 12:38 PM







Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:41 PM








Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.

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Thu 12/08/11 12:46 PM









To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex


Because God doesn't have to have sex to create a person. He can do it at his will.


the bible makes it clear that it does imply to sex....that's why they use the term "begotton"...it refers to a biological offspring...and that can not be acheive without sex

why are you so hung up that God had sex

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Thu 12/08/11 12:49 PM









Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.


Cowboy...Adam had no clue what a woman was so why would he have lust in his heart for one.....so can you please find a passage in Genesis where Adam spoke his mind...if not.....stop with the false gospel

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:53 PM










To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex


Because God doesn't have to have sex to create a person. He can do it at his will.


the bible makes it clear that it does imply to sex....that's why they use the term "begotton"...it refers to a biological offspring...and that can not be acheive without sex

why are you so hung up that God had sex


It can be achieved without sex with God. Anything is possible with God. God created the first person, the first man without sex. So he can make another. He made the first one out of dust, the second one in the womb of Marry. No one is hung up on God and sex but yourself.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 12:54 PM










Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.


Cowboy...Adam had no clue what a woman was so why would he have lust in his heart for one.....so can you please find a passage in Genesis where Adam spoke his mind...if not.....stop with the false gospel


Do you always carry discussions like this, even outside of this forum? That verse was posted not for what it said specifically, but to show that God knows the hearts of a person and what they want without them saying anything or physically doing anything to show what they want and or desire.

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Thu 12/08/11 12:59 PM











To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex


Because God doesn't have to have sex to create a person. He can do it at his will.


the bible makes it clear that it does imply to sex....that's why they use the term "begotton"...it refers to a biological offspring...and that can not be acheive without sex

why are you so hung up that God had sex


It can be achieved without sex with God. Anything is possible with God. God created the first person, the first man without sex. So he can make another. He made the first one out of dust, the second one in the womb of Marry. No one is hung up on God and sex but yourself.


Mary was filled with the holy spirit and got pregnant...that's sexual contact and procreation

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 12/08/11 01:04 PM












To be a "begotten" child, one must be born of the womb. Adam was not born of the womb, he was created from the dust.


"begotton" refers to a child obtain through procreation...you're proving the point that God had sex

you always run to Satan's dictionary to look up words...so run there now and "google cut and paste" the term "Begotton"

as I stated...it's impossible to reproduce a human without some form of sex taking place


Jesus is the only begotten child of God. And no sex required with God, he willed it to be and it was. The father willed for Marry to give birth to Jesus, and she became pregnant to give birth to Jesus.


come on Cowboy...run to the dictionary and paste what "begotton" means...begotton refers to sex

this is when the logic of the bible kicks in....the bible made sure that no human could ever be more unique than Adam...this is why no humans can be reproduced without sex taking place in some shape form or fashion....even science agrees with the bible on this issue


Begotten - (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).

Has nothing to do with sex, or even really a female at all.


Cowboy...er....hummm.er...."procreate" means sex ....

this is getting scary


Procreate does not mean sex. Humans use sex to procreate, that is because that is the only way we can procreate. But the word procreate in itself does not mean sex.

Procreate -
1. to beget or generate
2.to produce; bring into being.


now explain why that doesn't imply sex


Because God doesn't have to have sex to create a person. He can do it at his will.


the bible makes it clear that it does imply to sex....that's why they use the term "begotton"...it refers to a biological offspring...and that can not be acheive without sex

why are you so hung up that God had sex


It can be achieved without sex with God. Anything is possible with God. God created the first person, the first man without sex. So he can make another. He made the first one out of dust, the second one in the womb of Marry. No one is hung up on God and sex but yourself.


Mary was filled with the holy spirit and got pregnant...that's sexual contact and procreation


I'm guessing you don't know what sex is or sexual contact. Well let me be here to tell you, "sex" involves a penis,and a vagina, or some form of "artificial" penis. None of that was used in the impregnating of Marry.

You got it exactly right in what you said. She was filled with the Holy spirit. She was filled with the Holy spirit, then the Holy spirit took on the form of a servant, on the form of a mortal person. Took on the form of Jesus.

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Thu 12/08/11 01:06 PM











Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.


Cowboy...Adam had no clue what a woman was so why would he have lust in his heart for one.....so can you please find a passage in Genesis where Adam spoke his mind...if not.....stop with the false gospel


Do you always carry discussions like this, even outside of this forum? That verse was posted not for what it said specifically, but to show that God knows the hearts of a person and what they want without them saying anything or physically doing anything to show what they want and or desire.


I didn't ask you for a passage about what was in God's heart....heck God sometime have it in his heart to drown people....I asked you for a passage where Adam spoke his mind...everytime you fail to provide a passage is my way of showing you first hand how Adam had no Free Will

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Thu 12/08/11 01:10 PM












Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.


Cowboy...Adam had no clue what a woman was so why would he have lust in his heart for one.....so can you please find a passage in Genesis where Adam spoke his mind...if not.....stop with the false gospel


Do you always carry discussions like this, even outside of this forum? That verse was posted not for what it said specifically, but to show that God knows the hearts of a person and what they want without them saying anything or physically doing anything to show what they want and or desire.


I didn't ask you for a passage about what was in God's heart....heck God sometime have it in his heart to drown people....I asked you for a passage where Adam spoke his mind...everytime you fail to provide a passage is my way of showing you first hand how Adam had no Free Will


How does that constitute as not having free will? EVEN IF, hypothetically Adam was not for God doing as such and God did it, this would not take away his free will. Because he had the freedom to have that will. Having free will doesn't mean everything will go according to your will, only that you have the ability of having a will and it not be automatically programmed into of what that will is.

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Genesis 2:18
18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.


Cowboy...let's not go through this again ....I asked you for a passage where Adam claim that he was lonely....you keep proving passages from God

either supply one from Adam...or stop preaching this false gospel


What in the world are you talking about?

How do you believe God got the knowledge or the notion that Adam was lonely and needed a spouse? Think he just thought it off a whim? Got bored one day?

Why would there be a passage specifically where Adam tells God he is lonely? Genesis is not a diary, it possesses the knowledge of the creation of Heaven and Earth.

And why would Adam have to tell God? God know's our hearts, he know's what we need. And God know that, why would Adam have to specifically ask for it?


you're only proving that Adam has no will or mind of his own and that God makes all of his decisions ...hence no 'Free Will"

the fact that you failed to provide any passage where Adam himself spoke for himself in making any decision pertaining to a spouse or the taking of his rib proves this


I've shown quite the contrary. I have shown that Adam was lonely and wanted a spouse. Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be, only that he wanted one. God made him one. Adam's free will is in the wanting a spouse.And he made the decision when he wanted the spouse. Again, Adam did not specify how this spouse was to come to be. Only that he wanted one, so God made him one.


Cowboy ...I'm still waiting on a passage where Adam spoke about wanting a spouse or wanting God to take his Rib


remeber a passage when Adam spoke...stop placing the ones where God made a decision

how long is this going to take...or simply admit the truth...that there isn't one


No there is not one that I know that Adam specifically says it. But that is irrelevant. God seen he was lonely and gave him what he wanted. Adam did not specify how this was to come to be.


it does matter...if Adam didn't say it...then stop preaching false gospel that he did say it ......you have simply got to learn to stop preaching false gospel

do it again and I'm telling Jesus on you




I never said Adam "said" it. Only that he wanted it. God knows what we want without us saying it.

This is why -
Matthew 5:28

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Because God knows what we want and how our heart is.


Cowboy...Adam had no clue what a woman was so why would he have lust in his heart for one.....so can you please find a passage in Genesis where Adam spoke his mind...if not.....stop with the false gospel


Do you always carry discussions like this, even outside of this forum? That verse was posted not for what it said specifically, but to show that God knows the hearts of a person and what they want without them saying anything or physically doing anything to show what they want and or desire.


I didn't ask you for a passage about what was in God's heart....heck God sometime have it in his heart to drown people....I asked you for a passage where Adam spoke his mind...everytime you fail to provide a passage is my way of showing you first hand how Adam had no Free Will


And now I know absolutely for a fact, you're not listening. for I never said anything about God's heart. God knows OUR hearts, knows what WE desire, what WE need. And to show this is why I posted that verse, that even if someone commits something in their mind eg., a fantasy or a thought, God knows this and we are accountable for it. Your thoughts are just as judged as your actions. For first must come a thought before an action.

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I'm guessing you don't know what sex is or sexual contact. Well let me be here to tell you, "sex" involves a penis,and a vagina, or some form of "artificial" penis. None of that was used in the impregnating of Marry.


jeez don't mention penis because then Peter_Pan will come a running

but anyway something was place in mary...what was it? ....the holy spirit perhaps....sounds lke a tallywhacker




You got it exactly right in what you said. She was filled with the Holy spirit. She was filled with the Holy spirit, then the Holy spirit took on the form of a servant, on the form of a mortal person. Took on the form of Jesus.


the holy spirit equated to sperm

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Thu 12/08/11 01:20 PM

And now I know absolutely for a fact, you're not listening. for I never said anything about God's heart. God knows OUR hearts, knows what WE desire, what WE need. And to show this is why I posted that verse, that even if someone commits something in their mind eg., a fantasy or a thought, God knows this and we are accountable for it. Your thoughts are just as judged as your actions. For first must come a thought before an action.


you're only proving why Man has no 'Free Will" and this is why you can not provide a passage where Adam made any decisions pertaining to his rib or a spouse

the guy simply had no Will

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Thu 12/08/11 02:35 PM


And now I know absolutely for a fact, you're not listening. for I never said anything about God's heart. God knows OUR hearts, knows what WE desire, what WE need. And to show this is why I posted that verse, that even if someone commits something in their mind eg., a fantasy or a thought, God knows this and we are accountable for it. Your thoughts are just as judged as your actions. For first must come a thought before an action.


you're only proving why Man has no 'Free Will" and this is why you can not provide a passage where Adam made any decisions pertaining to his rib or a spouse

the guy simply had no Will



Funches, you should know by now that anything that has a woman and a lonely man, the man has no free will!

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Thu 12/08/11 03:26 PM


And now I know absolutely for a fact, you're not listening. for I never said anything about God's heart. God knows OUR hearts, knows what WE desire, what WE need. And to show this is why I posted that verse, that even if someone commits something in their mind eg., a fantasy or a thought, God knows this and we are accountable for it. Your thoughts are just as judged as your actions. For first must come a thought before an action.


you're only proving why Man has no 'Free Will" and this is why you can not provide a passage where Adam made any decisions pertaining to his rib or a spouse

the guy simply had no Will



What in the world are you talking about? Your body is not yours. You do not keep THIS body. When we pass away on Earth, when we die on Earth. Our body gets buried or cremated. When the dead is resurrected, they/we will be given a new body.

Free will ONLY pertains to YOU. You can choose to do an action when and how you wish. An action that is humanly possible that is eg., you can go to the store when you want, you can worship God or not, you can eat when you want, ect. We are not puppets on strings or robots programmed to behave/act and move a certain way.

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