Why the insults? Where's the love in that?

I have answered the question already, but I will answer again just for you.

If one's biggest desires is fleshly desires, their will is with the flesh. If one's biggest desires is with God, their will is with God.

Again, you're obsessed with me and my penis, but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the Bible and Adam's "rib".


Simple question. It wasn't a "rib", so what was it?


You say penis one more time and I'll suggest you change your profile preferences...

Why do Christians place so much faith in Satan?

Without Satan there would have been no need for God to sacrifice his own Son to appease the mighty powerful Satan.

Without the fear of Satan there would be no need to be "saved" through Jesus.

Of course, I realize that some Christians do not accept this. They refuse to give Satan such power over God, and claim that we aren't being saved from Satan at all.

But then this begs the question: "If we're not being saved from Satan, then who are we being saved from?"

The only deity left would be the Christian God.

So this leaves Christians with having to have faith that they need to be "saved" from their own demonic God.

None of this makes any sense to me. If they don't wish to give Satan any power, and they refuse to allow him to be a threat to God, then it makes no sense that this God would have needed to "sacrifice" his Son in order to appease anyone, other than possibly himself. But clearly that makes no sense at all.

So it seems to me that the whole religion is based either are the faith that Jesus is saving them from a demon (which means they must first place their faith in the power of the demon), or it means that they have faith that their very God is demonic and it is his wrath that they ultimately need to be 'saved' from.

The bottom line for the whole religion, in any case, appears to me to be a matter of placing their faith in the idea that they need to be "saved" from something horrible.

So that necessarily has to be the foundation of their faith.

It makes no sense to me to believe in a religion on pure faith, where the bottom line for the faith requires that they have faith that someone is out to hurt them in the first place.

It's a very strange religion to be sure.

I certainly would not care to place my faith in the idea that some God is out to harm me. That's just not my idea of what a "God" is supposed to be about. That can only be a fear-based faith that has people fearing that if they don't appease this God he will hurt them severely or potentially even kill them in the most permanent spiritual sense. It's the deadliest God myth ever created by mankind.

yes or no Cowboy.....is the will located in the body

I didn't think it was an insult. He likes penis and he thinks I look like one...



I'm flattered...

oh sorry Peter_Pan....I didn't know you had one

1. We have absolutely no faith in Satan. Other then faith in knowing he's real as you and I.
2. Yes there still would have been a need for Jesus' sacrifice. Jesus' sacrifice defeats death for us. We are given eternal life through Jesus our lord.
3. We're not saved from "Satan". We're saved from death. And it's not out of fear. It's out of desiring to see the father, to praise and worship him for eternity. This can not be done being dead.

You're avoiding the issue funchees...


I know what word was used, you don't. Just admit your failings and try to learn something for once.


What was Adam's "rib" really?



Humble yourself before the almighty penis and you may receive mercy!

You're not listening funches. A "will" is not a physical object, it is a descriptive word. It describes what you want to be true, what you know to be true.

Example -
You have faith it's gonna rain -- This person's will is for it to rain
You have faith you'll get this job -- This person's will is to get a job.

Peter_Pan enough with your penis flaming before they lock up the thread....get on the topic or come back after you take your meds..

Cowboy...it doesn't matter what you believe "Will" is...I simply asked you is it located in the body...it's a simple yes or no answer

I am on topic. It's you who likes penises and continues to bring them "up" (pun intended).


Now, make with the confessions Mr. Penis Envy...



What did God supposedly take out of Adam?

If one has fleshly desires, then yes there will is in the flesh.

So then you have faith in Satan. You have placed your faith in his reality.



Then your have placed your faith in the belief that you are being threaten with spiritual death as well. These go hand-in-hand.



If you are not being saved form "Satan" then you are necessarily being saved from a hateful demonic God who is threatening to do something horrible do you.

Otherwise why even speak of it in terms of being "saved"?

It makes no sense to speak of being "saved" from something that is neither horrible, nor a threat to you.

If you believe that you are being "saved" from something by Jesus, then clearly you must also believe that whatever it is that you believe you are being saved from is horrible fate.

Otherwise you wouldn't be so desperate to be "saved" from it.

So since you refuse to give Satan the power to threaten you, and your God as well. Then your fears can only come from your God himself. There simply is no one else to threaten you.

The bottom line is that you necessarily need to place your faith in the idea that your creator is threatening you with something horrible that you desperately wish to avoid.

I love the false dilema. One could also be saved from themselves...




I see the good, you see the bad....

so where is the will located in those that have no fleshy desires ...is it in the body

Faith is sincerely believing something(s). So yes, I have faith that there is a being called Satan who think himself greater then God.



No, I placed my faith in Jesus that he will save me from death. I placed my faith in that Jesus loves each and everyone of us. I placed my faith in Jesus defeating death for each and everyone of us when he was resurrected.



Being saved from death.



No, death is what happens after life, unless one give their heart to our God. If one gives their heart to God and is obedient to his wishes, they will never die. They will spend eternity in Heaven with all the greatness of God.

Depends on where they put their will. In your statement it clearifys the will not being in the flesh. So the only other place would be in God.

cool...so those that give their Will to God have no will in their body