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Person: An individual of specified character so now you place your God into the same category as a Character lol heck, one of the definitions pertain to exactly how it's being used here. Christianity Any of the three separate individualities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as distinguished from the essence of the Godhead that unites them. so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God But there is never without the other two. That's like saying without water being frozen it isn't ice. Kind of common sense funches. water is H2O...only with each component can it be ice or water ...this is why using science to explain your God is a lack of Faith and Witch Craft Science is nothing more then an observation of God's creation. So how would it show a lack of faith and witch craft? |
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Along with gotquestions.org( a trustworthy website that gives TRUE biblical answers ), yep, with a good trustworthy website there is no longer a need to read or find any true biblical answers in the bible, makes you wonder what if Adam and Eve had used it Adam and Eve didn't have "gotquestions.com" ...they had "got-serpent.com" Adam and Eve obtained their pre-biblical information not from God but from the serpent take note...the serpent never once lied to them ...thus making the serpent trustworthy this is why going outside of the bible to get answers is the same as running to the serpent Doesn't matter. They were told not to eat of the tree. Reasons why or why not are irrelevant. They were punished for their disobedience, not for the gaining of the knowledge. So no, the two have absolutely nothing to do with one another eg., going outside the bible to get the answers and running to the serpent. And besides this, this is not getting the knowledge outside of the bible. Gotquestions is just a tool to get information on specific things from the bible. the points is that you are getting your information from the serpent and not from the bible .....I mean who told you that Jesus was the holy spirit...where do you get this stuff from...since it's not in the bible..it has to be from the serpent |
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Sure when describing God he is a "person". A "person" is not solitarily to being a man or woman eg., flesh and blood. in other words if one sees E.T. the Extraterrestrial or perhaps God....you are supposed to say that you seen a person but not a space alien or the Lord ... well when you think about it...saying that will lessen your chances of being admitted to an insane asylum Lord, God, Father, Son, those are all descriptive words of the persons. Son - Describes the "person/being" as being the child of someone eg., the Father Father - Describes the "person/being" as being the parent of a child eg., the Son. according to Christianity God is not a person...you preaching that he is a person is Buddhism We are made in the image of God and what are you? Are you not a person? Genesis 1:26 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. where in the passage does it states anything about God being a person, ....you're a Buddhism in bloom |
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Person: An individual of specified character so now you place your God into the same category as a Character lol heck, one of the definitions pertain to exactly how it's being used here. Christianity Any of the three separate individualities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as distinguished from the essence of the Godhead that unites them. so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God But there is never without the other two. That's like saying without water being frozen it isn't ice. Kind of common sense funches. water is H2O...only with each component can it be ice or water ...this is why using science to explain your God is a lack of Faith and Witch Craft Science is nothing more then an observation of God's creation. So how would it show a lack of faith and witch craft? I guess your ice example must have been a bad anaolgy...because without all three components it's can't be ice .... so according to the trinty as you have explained it.. one or two of these individualites is not a God without the third |
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Person: An individual of specified character so now you place your God into the same category as a Character lol heck, one of the definitions pertain to exactly how it's being used here. Christianity Any of the three separate individualities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as distinguished from the essence of the Godhead that unites them. so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God But there is never without the other two. That's like saying without water being frozen it isn't ice. Kind of common sense funches. water is H2O...only with each component can it be ice or water ...this is why using science to explain your God is a lack of Faith and Witch Craft Science is nothing more then an observation of God's creation. So how would it show a lack of faith and witch craft? I guess your ice example must have been a bad anaolgy...because without all three components it's can't be ice .... so according to the trinty as you have explained it.. one or two of these individualites is not a God without the third Yeah if you wanna go with if's, an's, or but's. But the fact that all three have always been and will always be is why they all three are just one God and will always be our God. |
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Sure when describing God he is a "person". A "person" is not solitarily to being a man or woman eg., flesh and blood. in other words if one sees E.T. the Extraterrestrial or perhaps God....you are supposed to say that you seen a person but not a space alien or the Lord ... well when you think about it...saying that will lessen your chances of being admitted to an insane asylum Lord, God, Father, Son, those are all descriptive words of the persons. Son - Describes the "person/being" as being the child of someone eg., the Father Father - Describes the "person/being" as being the parent of a child eg., the Son. according to Christianity God is not a person...you preaching that he is a person is Buddhism We are made in the image of God and what are you? Are you not a person? Genesis 1:26 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. where in the passage does it states anything about God being a person, ....you're a Buddhism in bloom I just showed you one. You are to much in the "fairytell" state of mind Funches. We are made in the image of God. "Person" is purely a secular term on this Earth to explain who they are speaking of. To understand God, or as much of the information we have of God, you gotta get out of the fairytell state of mind thinking God is up in the clouds floating around. Psalm 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princess. Notice in this verse it says die LIKE men. We are eternal beings through Jesus. We are no longer captive by this flesh, it is merely a holding place for judgement. But anyways point of showing this particular verse is again it says die LIKE men. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 01/07/12 11:58 PM
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How can one God be three persons?
The doctrine of the Trinity — that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God — is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and YET IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIAN TRUTH . Although skeptics may ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it is nevertheless a basic doctrine of Scripture as well as profoundly realistic in both universal experience and in the SCIENTIFIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE COSMOS . Both Old and New Testaments teach the Unity and the Trinity of the Godhead. The idea that there is only one God, who created all things, is repeatedly emphasized in such Scriptures as Isaiah 45:18: “For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; …I am the Lord; and there is none else.” A New Testament example is James 2:19: “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble.” The three persons of the Godhead are, at the same time, noted in such Scriptures as Isaiah 48:16: “I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.” The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been sent both by The Lord God (that is, the Father) and by His Spirit (that is, the Holy Spirit). The New Testament doctrine of the Trinity is evident in such a verse as John 15:26, where the Lord Jesus said: “But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me.” Then there is the baptismal formula: “baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 28:19). One name (God) — yet three names! JESUS — That Jesus, as the only-begotten Son of God, actually claimed to be God, equal with the Father, is clear from numerous Scriptures. For example, He said: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8). HOLY SPIRIT — Some cults falsely teach that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal divine influence of some kind, but the Bible teaches that He is a real person, just as are the Father and the Son. Jesus said: “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come” (John 16:13). TRI-UNITY — The teaching of the Bible concerning the Trinity might be summarized thus. God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one. The three Persons appear in a logical, causal order. The Father is the unseen, omnipresent Source of all being, revealed in and by the Son, experienced in and by the Holy Spirit. The Son proceeds from the Father, and the Spirit from the Son. With reference to God's creation, the Father is the Thought behind it, the Son is the Word calling it forth, and the Spirit is the Deed making it a reality. We “see” God and His great salvation in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, then “experience” their reality by faith, through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit. Though these relationships seem paradoxical, and to some completely impossible, they are profoundly realistic, and their truth is ingrained deep in man's nature. Thus, men have always sensed first the truth that God must be “out there,” everywhere present and the First Cause of all things, but they have corrupted this intuitive knowledge of the Father into pantheism and ultimately into naturalism. Similarly, men have always felt the need to “see” God in terms of their own experience and understanding, but this knowledge that God must reveal Himself has been distorted into polytheism and idolatry. Men have thus continually erected “models” of God, sometimes in the form of graven images, sometimes even in the form of philosophical systems purporting to represent ultimate reality. Finally, men have always known that they should be able to have communion with their Creator and to experience His presence “within.” But this deep intuition of the Holy Spirit has been corrupted into various forms of false mysticism and fanaticism, and even into spiritism and demonism. Thus, the truth of God's tri-unity is ingrained in man's very nature, but he has often distorted it and substituted a false god in its place. 
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t002.html |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 01/07/12 11:28 PM
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Trinity There is only one God, but He consists of three distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The word “trinity” is not found in Scripture. It is a word used by Christians to express the doctrine of the unity of God as consisting of three distinct Persons. This word is derived from the Greek word trias, first used by Theophilus (A.D. 168-183), or from the Latin trinitas, first used by Tertullian (A.D. 220), to express this doctrine. The propositions involved in the doctrine are these: That God is one, and that there is but one God (Deut. 6:4; 1 Kings 8:60; Isa. 44:6; Mark 12:29, 32; John 10:30). That the Father is a distinct divine Person (hypostasis, subsistentia, persona, suppositum intellectuale), distinct from the Son and the Holy Spirit. That Jesus Christ was truly God, and yet was a Person distinct from the Father and the Holy Spirit. (John 20:30-31) That the Holy Spirit is also a distinct divine Person. Notice the use of the words “us” and “our” when the Son of God (“The Word”) created Man (Gen. 1:26). Although equal in divinity, the Father is in a position of authority or hierarchy over Jesus Christ, incarnate Son of God (John 14:28, 13:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Phil. 2:6-8).
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Science is nothing more then an observation of God's creation. So how would it show a lack of faith and witch craft? science has absolutely nothing to do with "god's creation." |
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funches
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Sun 01/08/12 06:08 AM
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Person: An individual of specified character so now you place your God into the same category as a Character lol heck, one of the definitions pertain to exactly how it's being used here. Christianity Any of the three separate individualities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as distinguished from the essence of the Godhead that unites them. so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God so without the other two the third individuality isn't a God But there is never without the other two. That's like saying without water being frozen it isn't ice. Kind of common sense funches. water is H2O...only with each component can it be ice or water ...this is why using science to explain your God is a lack of Faith and Witch Craft Science is nothing more then an observation of God's creation. So how would it show a lack of faith and witch craft? I guess your ice example must have been a bad anaolgy...because without all three components it's can't be ice .... so according to the trinty as you have explained it.. one or two of these individualites is not a God without the third Yeah if you wanna go with if's, an's, or but's. But the fact that all three have always been and will always be is why they all three are just one God and will always be our God. so according to you when one third of the trinity namely Jesus died ...the trinity was incomplete and therefore no God existed ..that would mean that God "always been" and will "always be" is a myth .....this also means that God does have weaknesses and is not omnipotent this would explain why he had to rest on the seventh day |
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Edited by
funches
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Sun 01/08/12 06:40 AM
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You are to much in the "fairytell" state of mind Funches. Cowboy wouldn't a "fairytell" state of mind be required to debate the bible...I mean let's face it, how many talking serpents have you ran into that tried to talk you into eating an apple or whatever? you're in the forum preaching that little elves exist but yet I'm the one being accused of being in a fairytell state of mind ... perhaps to debate the bible one needs to invoke a delusional state of mind |
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We are made in the image of God. "Person" is purely a secular term on this Earth to explain who they are speaking of. To understand God, Cowboy the bible claims that you were made in God's image the bible states nothing about God being made in your image...that is why you are a person and not the God the bible does everything to insure that God is far beyond a mere person which is why I've asked you to provide a passage that states that God is a person which so far you have failed to do if the only way you can understand your God is by referring to him as a person only makes it clear that your version of the Trinity is a false belief |
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How can one God be three persons? The doctrine of the Trinity — that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God — is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and YET IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIAN TRUTH . not all christians believe in this version of the trinity, simply because the bible does not support it but one can find a website that does ..... Jesus didn't have enough knowledge to be God...he didn't even know the time of Judgement Day....which proves that he wasn't omniscient...which proves that he is not a God |
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Edited by
funches
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Sun 01/08/12 06:42 AM
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Trinity There is only one God, but He consists of three distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. calling God a person or trying to explain the trinity by calling those involved anything but Gods is why your version of the trinity is false you can search the internet but you will not find one website that can explain your version of the trinity without taking away God's omnipotency...the bible made sure that no one can insert false gods into it |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sun 01/08/12 06:46 AM
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Only God and God Alone, Is Able to Open One's
Spiritual Eyes, Funches. 
Not Man. Be Blessed Now ...and Please Know That I Care ,Funches.
But Now It's...... 
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We are made in the image of God. "Person" is purely a secular term on this Earth to explain who they are speaking of. To understand God, Cowboy the bible claims that you were made in God's image the bible states nothing about God being made in your image...that is why you are a person and not the God the bible does everything to insure that God is far beyond a mere person which is why I've asked you to provide a passage that states that God is a person which so far you have failed to do if the only way you can understand your God is by referring to him as a person only makes it clear that your version of the Trinity is a false belief No God isn't merely a person. God is far greater then that. But let me ask you a question, when you put the mirror if front of a cat, what IMAGE is on that mirror? Or a dog, or a horse, or a box, or anything. The image is still the same thing as what the image is of. Cowboy the bible claims that you were made in God's image the bible states nothing about God being made in your image...that is why you are a person and not the God Never said I was the God. Please don't make false accusations and stay on topic funches. |
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How can one God be three persons? The doctrine of the Trinity — that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God — is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and YET IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIAN TRUTH . not all christians believe in this version of the trinity, simply because the bible does not support it but one can find a website that does ..... Jesus didn't have enough knowledge to be God...he didn't even know the time of Judgement Day....which proves that he wasn't omniscient...which proves that he is not a God Jesus didn't have enough knowledge to be God What does the knowledge and being God have anything to do with one another? Jesus did the will of the father, he listened to his father, he obeyed his father. The father is the one that knows the time of judgement. Philippians 2:7 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men |
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Only God and God Alone, Is Able to Open One's Spiritual Eyes, Funches.
Not Man. Be Blessed Now ...and Please Know That I Care ,Funches.
But Now It's......
as you run off take note as to what you are doing you are trying to convince a heathenous non-believer that your God is three persons that forms one God while the heathenous non-believer is trying to tell you that according to the bible God is not a person(s) but an omnipotent entity shouldn't our roles be reversed? |
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No God isn't merely a person. God is far greater then that. Cowboy ...finally I've got you to admit that God is not a person (s) ...so let's not here anymore of that crazy talk/post of how God is three person(s) why are you so ashame of admitting that you worship three Gods .... |
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But let me ask you a question, when you put the mirror if front of a cat, what IMAGE is on that mirror? Or a dog, or a horse, or a box, or anything. The image is still the same thing as what the image is of. a mirror presents a reflection not an image ....I'm not sure how you are trying to use a mirror or an image as an example to explain how God is a person |
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