well I'd run away near a volcano and like keep hopping lava patches and hopefully the ****er sinks in some lava. There's no way he could survive lava.

I read about this the otherday... I love how they say they aren't racist yet the little girls name has aryan race in it... It was really pathetic.

They had another bake shop make the cake.

It has nothing to do with honesty unless she blatantly asked.

I don't see how what happened 10 years ago or more really applies to a relationship that is well into the future. If we constantly live in the past, we will never move forward. SOo many stories have yet to come and soo many stories have happened since then. I made a really long story very brief just to ask you a question based on your reply. If I add another 5 years to the point where I am 30 I'm not sure how my childhood would really apply to someone that would probably be making a child with me other than the fact that we would be raising one.

I can't agree with the marriage. My aunt was just married. She married a school teacher in NY. It's a total respectable career, but the family yeah not so much. They saw their sister as doing much better. Kind of like how my mother married a bottom feeder and was shunned as well. The family of the groom totally hilarious but they felt soo uncomfortable at the rehearsal dinner. Mostly because the rehearsal dinner was mostly our family. In other words, your friends weren't welcome by the brides family. I believe that It was very disrespectful to the groom. When the wedding went off, once again the grooms friends and family were almost shocked and bewildered by what they saw. It amazed me somewhat to see how much food would go to waste. The desert table alone was about 6 delicatessens fully packed with goodies if not more.

Actually no record company has ever taken a full bred emotional hardcore act on with them. The closest example would be hot cross *ex saetia, ex you and I* but that's not even a major label. The closest you get is Thursday signing with Island records but that stopped and then their lead singer formed United Nations which is in fact a true act done with his whacky melody singing voice which just adds his quirk on the scene. Thursday also invited Envy a japanese emotional hardcore act to an ep with them just recently after the events with island. They're now on Epitaph. Still though, Thursday doesn't encompass enough of the song structure to truly be just labelled emotional hardcore. They use a lot of rock influences as of late.

How does a kid wearing torn jeans and a flannel represent a style you're talking about? That's definately the biggest style within the scene and chucks for shoes. So imagine ripped jeans, flannel shirt, and chucks. I'd say out of 50 people at the show about 20 of them are dressed like that.

The bands you listed sing. Emotional hardcore doesn't have a singer. It's pure screaming non ****ing stop, every word is screamed or it's softly spoken to a barely recognizable whisper.

It doesn't get attention because it's too loud, you can't hear the screamer live *unless you listen to the blood brothers which is like the ultimate pose band*. It's chaotic noise sped up really fast sounding like a whirlwind of just bashing symbols and a screamer to boot that can't get above the noise being made on record or live. Live only makes it worse.

I'd say out of the 100 shows I've been to, I've maybe seen 3 bands or so look at the crowd, everything is with their backs toward you 90% of the time. You don't market a band that doesn't face the observers.

Almost all of the music is only found on vinyl, you'd be lucky to get some cds. They do exist just few and far between and will not be sold at your local music chain store. They aren't highly prized items.

No straight up emotional hardcore act has ever made a difference in the music scene but for some reason the lead singer of Thursday with the creation of United Nations actually had our us gov't go to their facebook page and had it removed.

As for the look. Ok Kurt Cobain wore flannel you got me there and those ripped jeans dammit there too and he probably wore chucks as well...

No because they're already my significant other... So clearly she chose me I don't get the next part of it though. I mean the past is the past but polygamy definately not my thing. It has nothing to do with their likes of the other sex, it has everything to do with not being satisfied with one partner.

Yeah yeah but you're missing something here. Unless you're a polygamist which it didn't say why would a bisexual be with me? It wouldn't make any sense, I don't have both parts. :). I laughed everytime I watched tila tequila do her show especially the episodes where she's like does your family know I'm bisexual? Like that is suppossed to mean something when you're with the one you have fallen in love with and wasn't that the point of the show? I mean I can understand someone choosing from either sex, but that isn't the question that is asked in this thread. The question asked in this thread is if your significant other was bisexual which to me means total disregard for me.

I don't believe each class treats members of another class the same at all. Nor does it work within the caste system. I believe there are people within such situations that may rise up between them even in such structured caste systems, but it's pretty rare. It's more common with the America's but not so common outside of them.

The way people treat others is bestowed upon what they're worth. You don't walk up to the president and say hi what's up man how are you today? You will be greeted and spoken to in turn if a friend but during the meantime I suggest you find something to entertain yourself with.

I mentioned indentured servants. Most Americans seem to think slavery ended, yet I look at my godmother and see the perfect example of how it still exists. She's past 90 years old, she lived within the confines of the property, took care of 5 children and then my grandmother when she fell ill. She is a virgin, and her life was bought and paid for. I don't believe that middle class people operate that way. I see it exist in other societies as well not just here in the America's. I've seen things I'm not proud of exhibited by members of my family, but that's life.

Levi's survived after the initial developper died. Also because of the patent.

I am not sure I follow the whole critical link of cultures worldwide thing.

I am having difficulty explaining it though. I don't exactly know how to to be perfectly honest. I just know that there are certain characteristics that aren't taken in by that type of class based on just how they treat their employees, their live in maids, etc. However, it's that treatment that got them to where they're and made plenty of other people in this world also succeed.

My family didn't start out as the most prominant american dreamer, but certainly became one during the depression. While CEO's were flying out windows, my family was turning their business into an empire. It's hard to put into words what class is but know this, no girl I've ever dated would've survived a dinner with my relatives without me helping her. It's really wierd to be surrounded by people who you may not like based on their behavior but must respect at the sametime? Like in most families I've seen, I've heard screaming and crazyness and vulgar language none of that exists where I come from. If you do any of that or disgrace yourself and the family name, you're just banished from being in the presence of them. In other words, you become the commoner once again. A significant other can also cause this as is the case with some families but in ours it's quite different. Like I said, it's just something that is really hard to put into words because it's just normal to me.

Uhm there are a few different types of love but uhm if you go from lover to friend then they didn't love at all.

I totally agree, but I also believe that without wealth you can't be seen as having class.

I think our minds tend to create the too perfect image and we try too hard to complete that image dismissing all of the pluses and focusing too much attention on the negatives.

I would have a problem with it because if they're bi-sexual then why are they with me? I'm not a female...

Emotional hardcore isn't compared to grunge at all. As for goth definately not. There are no sounds whatsoever prevalent in emotional hardcore that are found anywhere in that music category. You don't compare alternative rock to hardcore. The bands might play at the same shows but you don't compare those bands to eachother. Not at all. Nirvana was probably the most famous grunge act ever how do you compare them with Saetia probably the biggest name in emotional hardcore. They're not related at all.. Grunge sings for starters, emotional hardcore doesn't sing. Grunge plays powerchords.. There aren't really many power chords to be distinguished at all in emotional hardcore. Please don't try to analyze a music sound you don't know anything about.

I am not made of money. I come from a family that is, there's a difference especially in my family.

I just don't see the term of someone embroidering class as a peasant versus a queen. I mean you're tossing around the term like the dictionary doesn't exist and it does exist for a reason. There are seperate classes of people especially in the US which there are more classes than usual.

You have the highest echelon, you proceed down to upper middle class, middle class, lower middle class, then you have 2 stages of poverty as well. I actually exist in the lowest poverty level based on money, I will have made less than $10,000.00 this past year. Most of which came from unemployment benefits without unemployment I would have made less than $5,000.00. However, I know where I come from, and when I think of class I don't think of the peers I went to school with. They aren't brought up in the same place that I began my life. They have no name that is a marque figure on this world. To say that an upper middle classman who makes oh I don't know about 800 million dollars less or substantially less in their lifetime depending on who you're talking about compared to the truly wealthy... I don't know how you can compare those people. That isn't to say that they aren't upper middle class. I think of athletes and most entertainers as upper middle class, right up there with doctors and dentists as well as top lawyers senators governors and the leaders of the military. I believe the president is the upper echelon... I believe other countries and their leaders fit that category as well. However, I don't see how a person who is granted no rewards, honors, dresses like those, or has the opportunity to show off like those can be considered for this placement.

What you guys think is expensive I laugh at not because I personally know what it's like to burn that money but because my family did burn that money.

It's got nothing to do with friends, it has everything to do with family. My friends don't come from the upper echelon, my family does.

Sitting down to dinner with the governor... I don't see how a governor compares to to a billionaire. I mean they're elected officials and do impose laws on citizens and are in the spotlight and possibly national spotlight but I'm not so positive that every governor has class. I don't think of them as upper echelon. They have power to some degree but not enough and certainly not as much as someone who works outside of the us gov't. They might live in a nice house but it's by no means king like.

I didn't feel the need to read your first reply because it wasn't directed towards my response. My response got you to wonder how long should it be before something like that is released and you're demanding before sex... Psh whatever :).. If I chose never to tell her would it be so bad? Psh not at all if anything it will save her of being oh my god that's horrible and hating my mom and yadda yadda yadda.

dictionary.com says different but if we were to go by what that says which is B I'm guessing. What is high standards of personal behavior? Who's standards do these apply to? How are they judged? By who are they judged? The classy gesture statement I could see obviously sticking up the middle finger wouldn't be classy but what is this classy guy? I don't see it from the definition and nowhere does it explain it in the verbage of which it is used.

The problem is you're using an incorrect statement, I've never heard of such a thing. It doesn't exist in the dictionary either. So I'm lost and until you're able to give a better definition which doesn't exist for a term and definition that does I must stand by what I said.

Just because you have some preconceived notion that a person has class doesn't mean that your reasons are right.

For example you said mother theresa. Mother Theresa was respected by the upper echelon, she was welcome just like my godmother is now welcome to being more than just a maid/caregiver. She earned her title through her dedicated years of service to our family.

You mentioned ghandi and ghandi is again well respected by the upper echelon in some view or another. You're giving people who were accepted by the class system even though they were in a different caste system. They broke through barriers and transcended from one to another. Just because you start as a nobody doesn't mean you won't be recognized later in life. These 2 were recognized for their deeds to this world, were respected. You can't say that the thankful bum at the local dunkin donuts is revered in the same light as ghandi.