As each day passes we grow one day closer towards death. If you were option number 1 you're destined for loneliness.

Money doesn't buy happiness and you're dates of a *romantic dinner* psh hahahahaha. YOu ****ING EAT 3X A DAY AND HAVE DINNER EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE! If that is a date you have serious serious serious issues. If you think eating is a date that's even a bigger issue. I laugh at you because you have no originality at all.

Movie probably the biggest form of entertainment in a humans life. Something they do on a daily basis is watch either tv or a movie. Little kids go on these dates because it gets them away from their parents and their parents home. Movies aren't dates in my opinion. It is a typical daily routine activity. If your life revolves around *dates* consisting of a dinner and a movie you're pathetic. Especially if you're spending well over 200.00 to do this.

*typical dinner is about 100.00 between two people at a nice restaurant, typical movie late night might cost around 60 dollars.* YOu've just spent 160.00 to do what you do every single day of your life. You really know how to have a good time.

How is it about safety? Will someone please please please explain to me how getting a hotel room protects you from a stalker online? Who has your phone number, knows probably your first name, and most likely the city you live in?

To top this off you're going to meet so he's probably going to see your car which =license plate, insurance, and registration, not to mention all of the other little tricks he/she could use to get other information from you. I don't see how this protects anyone whatsoever.

*well he knows where I live.* I think this was funny and I will now state the best reason for this.

On your license, it gives a general idea of either where you used to live or where you live now. You hand over this document to buy alcohol, drinks, cigs, etc. but most importantly you would probably think nothing of it if an internet date asked to see it. He would now know where you live if you still live there. In my case it wouldn't show that but in other people they wouldn't even think twice about it which is my point. We hand total strangers not people we plan on meeting our address, full name, and age on a daily basis expecting them not to use it to *stalk* us. Yet a person you feel totally comfortable with enough to hangout with is denied this information to being feared of stalked hahahaha. You're beyond unreasonable in my opinion. I'm not saying you should go ahead and give everyone your address or phone number. I also don't think everyone in the world is welcome at your house, but seriously you still haven't shown me how the guy from the club who took you home or the cab driver is any safer if not worse off.

If a person is truly a psycho, then they have other methods of finding you rather than thinking you're sitting behind a device that totally protects you. Him being at a nearby hotel doesn't protect you I on't see how this protects you at all. If someone would please explain to me how this protects someone, I'd really love to hear it.

Think of rationally though. WHy would someone do this over doing what they could do with the money?

Just think about that because what you're saying makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever and yet you're the one with the issue of having stalkers. I wonder why. You don't see problems with people throwing money down the drain for no real reason... I think that could possibly tip someone over the edge... Yep could definately see that.

WHat makes you soo special that it's worth a cruise ship price just to meet you? It doesn't make sense and the people that are doing this don't make sense. You want red flags, here they're. ANyone willing to do these kinds of things has a serious issue whether they're on this forum or not.

11 hours=22 hours 60mph=1300 or so miles? In my car that equals an oil change -15.00 in gas in my car that would be over 100.00. Just travel time alone which is a full day of their life and out 115.00 at the very least oh wait they ate food on the road so now you're talking at least 2 meals if not 3 there's another 50 bucks plus drinks there's another 20 or so you're already at 200.00 before hotel costs and before additional food costs. Anyone willing to do this just to meet someone that isn't a celebrity is really wierd. I don't know anyone who travels that far to see their favorite band myself included *which I have travelled pretty far to see my favorite band play some shows*. Still nowhere near that price and as the price goes up the less fans from across the country come.

Now I could see if they had a business meeting in your state or they had family nearby or whatever but just to meet you that would definately put up a red flag and say hey why is it this person is trying to get to me and they don't care about money whatsoever? Why are they doing it just to meet me and hangout with me? They only know me from the internet and I don't trust them enough to spend the night at my house so they come up with even more money to get here... It's very very very awkward. I'm not saying people don't do it but just look at the situation realistically. That's all I'm saying.

I'm looking at it realistically of what else I could do for the weekend with the amount of money. A normal person who isn't blind, infatuated to the point that they can't rationalize things, or have a life without their significant other which clearly isn't very significant since there is absolutely no form of trust. Dating does involve money I won't say that it doesn't but to spend 500 and not do anything besides meet that's just INSANE! It's not normal for a person to do that, that is my point. It has nothing to do with changing my mind about fear or insecurity or safety because I've yet to hear how this protects anyone from anything.

For example you talk on the phone... Someone has a number... Did you know I could get your address from just a phone number? Does that scare you a little more? :). Not to mention you have an assigned IP address that also tells you your address. How do you think the police are able to track criminal activity online? The best part about this is, the people who have their email address through their service provider only make it even easier to access. It's not just me that knows how to do this, I mean if you're talking about a stalker and some psycho, I'm pretty sure they know and will be going through the ends of hell to complete whatever sick mission is inside of their head. I don't see the point of a hotel at all except to have crazy sex in a luxurious sweet. That is the only thing that I see. Or you don't want your date to see how ****ed up you live one of those 2 come to my mind. I don't see how it protects you at all or protects the other person. I just don't see it, but maybe if you actually said how it protects you *other than well he could try and rape me if he had access to my room with the door locked...* Ugh! It's pathetic is what it is that's all I see.

I mean we have weapons inside of our house, we have mace, we have pepper spray, we have locked doors and the only thing you could come up with is he *knows my address*. You're online talking on an internet forum, EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR ADDRESS if they care. No one cares.

Haha totally doesn't effect me at all.

If someone from NY paid 500 dollars just to meet you, they're losers in life. I'm from Jersey/NY and there is soo many better things to do there with 500 bucks in my pocket than to meet someone from the internet. Before I had my car though and before I had some serious cash yeah I see why I did what I did because I didn't have anything else better to do. However, 500 bucks is a decent party/really fun time.

There is no way in this world that I would spend 500 to go meet someone rather than go to disney world, a road trip or shows or a cruise. There's no way. Rich people maybe 500 isn't that much and since they think people will be impressed from other places by what they spend versus the people in NJ/NY yeah I could see that. Money grubbers really exist there.

See now for women having to travel I totally see the precaution of not going. I still don't agree that a long distance person must shell out over 500 just to meet you. That's where the personality disorder comes from. You're completely self indulged that you're worth meeting for 500 or more. Psh I don't give a **** if you were a celebrity, I don't shell out 500.00 to meet someone whether I'm getting laid or not. That's why everyone laughed when my favorite artist as well as everyone on the forum laughed when they asked for 500 bucks for a ticket, a meet and greet, a signed album cover, a chance to be introduced on stage, a chance to chill with them, a jacket, a digital camera, etc. That's with like your heroes you know it's not a girl on the internet... You make me cringe just thinking that you expect this of people that would be long distiance because you might have been hurt by men in the past or were hurt by men in the past. Hun I've been hurt by plenty of people, that doesn't mean I look at the world in the same light nor does it mean I am fearful of every living creature on this planet. *shudders*

It's not like that at all. However, with my personality my friends don't pay for dinner, and my girlfriend most certainly doesn't pay for dinner and most of the time doesn't cook dinner either. Either we go out or I cook. As for entertainment yeah maybe the person would shell out money for stuff to do. I've had females buy me some play tickets before because no one ever went with them to broadway musicals. However, it's not often that I let women do much for me. It just feels wierd to me. My friends are generally like this as well with their gfs.

If you got money like that be my guest. Then again I still think I'd be freaked out that you would be willing to spend that much on let's plane fare was involved as well. That would be sick and I would either hand you half the money or treat you to some awesome entertainment. So in this case the girl is going to get pampered for visiting but the guy visiting a girl will not get pampered so it doesn't really work out.

I mean if you shelled out 500 bucks and all he did was buy mcdonalds for you and took you to a coffee shop and a park would you ever think of going back? Seriously think about that because that's exactly what it would be like for the guy.

First I shall reply to the let's ask the board...

I didn't say it was ok to meet with someone after 1 phone call. That's kind of creepy. I lived 3 blocks from the 2nd to last girl that I dated. We found eachother via myspace and even then with pictures of my dog and me, it took 3 weeks before we were both comfortable with meeting. Mind you, for me she lived 3 blocks away and knew exactly where I lived. Oh by the way even though it wasn't mandatory, I got to sleep over the very first day :). My dog didn't though.

As for expecting to stay on far away trips. The 3 hours is a pretty long drive and if it was me I would sleep in my car if need be but I would want a shower. I definately wouldn't pay 500 to meet someone from the internet. Like I previously said, only complete and utter losers would do such a thing. 500.00 is a lot of money whether you want to see it as that or not, and like I said that would be the bare minimum spent and it has no entertainment value at all. If you think for one second that the world is open to meet you, you're dead wrong. No reasonable person who has a life will spend 500 dollars to meet someone.

As far as having kids I don't know about that. I don't have any. I could see how precaution would totally be acceptable in that case, you would be the one driving :). It just wouldn't work out from my point of view. I honestly don't see that happening for a long distance with kids. I just don't see that as something that would workout but I mean I could be wrong. Me personally I wouldn't let anyone stay in my house if I just met them with kids at home. No way in hell.

Now as for long distance expenses.. It does take money to make a long distance relationship work but only when seeing eachother. Everything else is pretty easy nowadays. When I first started, I was paying payphones to talk on them. Then it got upgraded to 10-10-2-20 and then finally the cellphone. Nowadays it's pretty easy to make a long distance relationship work as long as both people are dedicated to the relationship and are willing to split the costs for meeting. However for hotels hahahaha definately not! At least not for me but then again I stay away from long distance relationships since mine have always turned out bad for me.

Why does a woman run a greater risk at meeting through the internet? For all I know you could actually be a 60 year old man. I mean since we're talking about non trust and safety you must really assume that.

I don't see how a hotel room is beneficial at all for either person. What exactly is the point to sleep safely? So I don't get carved up while I'm sleeping? Women are pretty freaky I mean lorana bobit chopped it the **** off. You tell me the last time you heard a women having her tits or having her vag cut up in america since lorana bobit did her thing.

Like I said, anyone willing to pay 500.00 to meet you is more of a creep than someone trying to do the basics. Unless of course they were substantially rich and money was like nothing in which case like I said you're a gold digger.

The military encourages this and I gave them the big **** you so I've taken my stance on this issue.

standard safety precaution by you. I've never heard of such a thing in my entire life. You're the very first individual who I've ever talked to request such a thing.

Hey check this out at the age of 15 my friend had a 23 year old Japanese kid come stay at his house. He was pretty cool, we have some pictures as well.

Foreign tribes all over the world allow people to sleep in their homes. You on the otherhand are a little wierd for demanding that your internet friend who should be a friend couldn't possibly stay over whatsoever... I've had travelling bands stay at friends houses. This is how the world operates.

If a guy spends 500+ to meet someone they have a serious problem in life and you demanding that is even more serious. 500.00 I'd get to hangout with my favorite band, get an autographed cd, get vip access to the stage, go out for drinks afterwords, a leather jacket, and a whole bunch of other neat stuff. Not only do I get to chill with my HEROES! but I also get all kinds of extras! That's a pretty cool gift... Meeting you not nearly cool enough sorry you're not that cool and that's my point. If anyone really thinks you're that cool at the very least spends what a VIP all access roadie package costs where you get to go on stage with the band and give them their **** and work with them and hangout with them and party with them yeah I'm going to say it's so not worth it. If you think that you're that important in life that to meet you is worth more than a vacation of a week cruise ship you either are

A-totally rich which means getting into your panties will pay off dividends into the future

Or

B-you're only looking for the richest guys in the land

or

C the person who is going to do this has absolutely no life.

"Are you actually suggesting that because some guy spent $500 to come meet me ( a request of his btw if you look in the original post)that I should Fu*k him? I'm sorry I don't give a damn what your hooker sister charges I'm worth a hell of a lot more than that and if your not able to afford to pay your own way than drive 3 hours to meet me and turn around and drive your ass home.......better yet save up to do it if your wanting to spend a couple of days "

Nope not at all. It doesn't take 500.00 to meet someone. However, making someone stay at a hotel would unless the other partner was open to ok you spend money for hotel costs and I'll spend money on food and entertainment however that wasn't suggested.

As for the other's personal background. I've been assaulted by schoolmates, classmates, I've been raped for 8 years straight by my own family member in my own house pretty much every single day, and uh living 3 hours away there's a less likely chance of it happening. This doesn't mean that there aren't psychos in this world. All I was saying is if there was this bonding between 2 people such as I don't know love for instance spending 500 and getting rubbed off by the person because they don't trust you is soo pathetic. I also said you can HAVE FRIENDS... I guess you have no friends because you can't trust anyone. 1 guy fighting off 5 guys and a girl plus phones yeah I'm thinking the guy doesn't stand a ****ing chance in hell. Then again you're you and I am me.

I just think based on my experiences that it would be totally ridiculous for someone to have this mutual friendship/feeling to want to meet and hangout but in order to so they must fork over more money than a cruise ship... I can do a hell of a lot more in life than go meet someone with that kind of money. Like I said, the only people in this world that would spend that kind of money on "meeting" are the complete utterly hopeless losers in this world. Like for instance GO ON A CRUISE! I think I could get to disneyworld 2x in a month with that kind of money. I'd have more fun than sippin on some coffee lookin at you from across the way especially since you couldn't trust me after spending soo much time on the phone, net, seeing my pictures, etc.

I did mandate time in this equation and I do mandate that you feel secure enough to finally meet, and I didn't say leave your guard down at all however I just believe that your secluding yourself off from a good portion of this world by asking people to do that kind of thing. It's beyond ridiculous from my standpoint and anyone willing to do that before meeting would freak me the **** out and I'd never see them.

Oh no someone who lives 3 hours away from me knows where I live..., I'm gonna die now!!!! Are you serious? Hahahaha. I'm sorry but that is the funniest thing I have read in quite sometime.

How many relationships haven't worked out for you? How many lived closer than 3 hours away? Please post these so we all can show you some statistics.

You have a much greater chance of being killed by someone who lives closer and that you didn't spend as much time with than the internet guy. That's why I brought up the bar thing. You want to go with the church. should I bring that up? I mean churches go on to other churches for events and sleep overs. You're beyond insecure with that phrase by the way.

I want you to really think about this. The guy goes to his hotel, has driven 3 hours, met you somewhere to get to know you which means at least dinner he's hungry I'm sure. He has at the minimum or will at the minimum spend 500 dollars to meet you. But he's not welcome back at your house so again he must spend more gas money *I'm going to guess since you're so uncomfortable meeting this person that you're going to take 2 vehicles everywhere as well* going to places of your choice for possibly breakfast lunch and dinner for the next 2 nights. However, what else are you going to do for activities? I mean surely he didn't come 3 hours and get a hotel for 3 nights to sip coffee all day. Like I said, you're asking someone to spend well over 500 to spend time with you. A hooker charges about 300 if she's good looking per hour and 500 for a night. *my sister's one I sorta know the deal* Not only do they get to degrade this hooker, they **** her, and don't ever have to see her again. However, they just had a night of wild crazy sex and it cost a lot less than meeting you. It would be absurd for a girl who should be at the very least a very dear internet friend by now to ask for that kind of person. I just don't see how you think this compromises your safety.

As for money being irrelevant... Oh no it's totally relevant. Unless you're totally lonely in this world, can't get a date from anyone, have absolutely no friends whatsoever, and you have a buttload of cash, that is the only person you're ever meeting that lives over 3 hours away. Which would make them a potential psycho since the above criteria isn't a good fit for a potential lover.

My friend Mike was hit by a drunk driver while walking the sidewalk right after Thanksgiving last year, he never woke up from his coma, and was taken off life support this past Thanksgiving.

No more money to stick around and share wonderufl memories and times together causing me to look for work elsewhere

Hahahaha

on a side note I don't know how to make the smileys you all use...

I don't take anything you say personal so for telling me that you're not bringing me home, I wasn't asking. I was conversing in conversation. I don't feel that someone needs to have 500 to spend on meeting through the internet because of distance. That's quite retarded.

"oh well you're from the internet i'll go whore myself off down the street at the local bar with a guy who will buy me 4-5 drinks of my favorite drink which might cost him 50 -100 bucks, I'll get drunk around a complete stranger and let him drive me home!"

Or how about this "I called a cab and the cab driver took me home now he knows where I live.... dun dun dun"

The paranoid people of this world are truly the most insecure people I've never met :). For good reason to, I can't stand shy people.

I just don't believe that someone should be forced to stay at a hotel if a possible friendship/relationship is forming. I mean that's why we have sleepovers as kids, that's why when we drink at a friend's house, we can crash on the couch, that's why when kids throw parties in college and people pass out on the couch, they aren't thrown into the street.

To be totally honest, I truly believe internet dating is the safest way of meeting people in this world. People are psychos don't care where you live, or who you live with they're ****ing nuts. You have granted yourself an opportunity to get to know a person before physical contact is even made, that's a pretty good sign things will work out because if you can handle distance and you can handle not returning calls on time or being around eachother every single second you generally have a good understanding of what you're for in the future.

You say there are risks. There are risks everywhere. You eliminate them to the best ability possible but if you're truly interested in someone it shouldn't matter how much money they have in their pocket. I just don't agree with having to spend over 500 dollars for a meet and greet which may go really badly on the third day you never know.. I also don't think you're any safer by him staying at a hotel unless you never intend to bring him anywhere near your home but that means he needs well over 500 unless you planning on going to his hotel? Are you a ****ing princess I'd love to meet someone who would spend well over 1,000 to meet a girl **** prostitutes don't make that much.

easily. If Hitler's mom knew who Hitler would become, do you honestly think she'd take him home? How about all of the mother's who have their kids shoot up the nearby school students? Most importantly the girl who just killed her kid and both parents were right behind her, defending her, oh and then they find the body.