I was all of the above.
It wasn't till I embraced reality, was completely honest with myself, my fears and my expectations that I found my true inner peace.

While reality can and does suck pretty bad sometimes I can deal with it better now that I am not depending on someone else's imaginary friend to handle it for me.
I'm also no longer afraid of death, I don't want to die but I no longer fear it.

A bolt of lightning, how symbolic
I've mentioned before ideas regarding reality. It is something we don't agree on
Reality is occult
Concealed
There is a punishment for trying to reveal it
It starts young
Things 'happen' in classrooms
Not everybody is aware of it
We live in a peverted world, were somebody else decides for you what is real
You are not allowed, outside of this box
That is the 'nature' of our 'civilised' world

While I can agree on some of the basis for your assertion, I can't agree on the reality part.
For someone who is completely deluded, reality becomes malleable.
Delusions often reinforce themselves despite reality leaking thru.
It depends on how deeply set the delusion is.

In the 'civilized' world, people are constantly taught (from an early age) certain things that don't jive with reality. When all you know (and trust) is a delusion, the mind actively works to make that delusion real.

Once the delusion is lifted, one often wonders how they could think that in the first place? Then you start looking at the things in your life that are there for the sole purpose of supporting the delusion and you wonder what was I thinking?

With reality, actual reality, it is the same whether you are deluded or not but once the delusion is lifted, its easier to recognize reality from delusion.

Many people in the 'civilized' world are asleep to reality.
Basically, sheeple following a predetermined path (of someone else's design) while thinking it was their own choice.

Now that I know reality what reality is - not following someone else's path while thinking it is my own - I too am at peace. When I die, that's it, no devils or angels waiting to meet me, not even a thousand virgins (boo hoo!).

I too am not scared of death, so long as it is quick, not slow and painful. A friend knew she was dying of cancer and when the doctors had given her all the available drugs they could she finally decided to stop taking the pills and two weeks later she was no longer with us. That was one brave lady, don't know how I would cope if that happened to me, as of course it might do one day.

I really didn't like having to go through my Father's belongings when he died and I don't want others to be going through my things when I'm no longer around. The thought of that is far more upsetting than the thought of just not being here any longer. I would feel that my privacy was being invaded. Maybe if I feel my end is near I should wipe the computer and lose all my passwords.

I am so pleased that the god delusion has gone from my life and of course I do feel pity for those who cling on to their beliefs. In particular, those whose faith is what I would call 'aggressive'. Sometimes, it is only because they want you to join their particular version of it. Look at the living style of the Mormons and JWs or in particular the cults that use religion to persuade you to join. That is easily enough to convince me that they are not really 'religious' groups at all. They are money making organisations, but the 'product' they are selling is 'eternal life for the good' which from a salesman's point of view is unbeatable. The 'product' will never be 'faulty' and require a return to the 'manufacturer'. A salesman's dream come true!

you really exemplify "circular logic" to a "T!!"

this must be the 20th post where you said the same thing basically word for word.

what i honestly believe you should do is copy/paste the best of Your 20+ rants, then print it out into a physical copy. then tape it to Your bathroom mirror.

You clearly do not believe a word You are sharing with us, SO, You better have it copied in hard format so You can at least read it every morning before lying to Yourself and then to all of us!!

May I assure you that I believe everything I have said. I'm sure you believe all the nonsense you have spouted, complete with all those capital letters and all that bold type. Your reply is weird to say the least.

Let me repeat, there is no such thing as god, the idea was invented my man, and not the other way around. People who believe that nonsense are deluded and if I was sufficiently interested I would feel sorry for y'all.

I promise that I truly believe all of the things I have said in my posts. I assume you believe all of what you say? I cannot imagine why anyone would post something they do not believe in. What a weird idea!

so you believe the Universe and all life forms are here solely by Accident, not here for a Purpose and Reason?

so why are you on a Purpose that appears to be full of Reasoning in order to claim Life is just a Random Accident?

The answer to your first question is a definite YES but I do not understand your second question. I just tell it as it is, nothing as complicated as you seem to imply!

To interject...
I don't.

Accident implies intent.
The current state of reality is random, not accident.
Everything that exists now is the result of chaotic random chance.
Random chance limited by physical laws related to mass and energy.

As an experiment, fill a basketball court with bowling pins standing 1 inch apart.
In the center, place a basketball on the floor.
Now try to dribble another basketball on top of the one on the floor in the middle of the bowling pins. Watch what happens. [chaos]
Then do it all over again. Watch what happens, was it exactly the same? [random]
Try to do it again so it results in exactly the same actions.
You intend to set the same movement in action but it isn't the same.
[chaos]
You could call it an accident but the result is always just going to be chaotic random chance.

If reality (the Universe) were governed by purpose and reason you could successfully dribble a basketball on a basketball and never disturb the bowling pins.

My apologies, Tom, I was being sloppy. I meant 'accident' in the sense that 'it just happened', and was not created by some non-human wonderful being.

LOL, no apologies needed.
I don't take offense over anyone's opinion.

I was simply stating how I see it.
Another opinion.

Life is just life.
There isn't a purpose other than to be alive.
"Our" purpose in life is a purely man-made concept.

In animals (yes, we are animals), the purpose in life is to eat (consume sustenance) and reproduce.
Everything an animal does hinges on obtaining the requirements needed to remain alive and pass on its genetic make-up to its offspring.
Some animals take a complicated path. Some do not.
Humans take a very complicated path.
Given our numbers and the fact that we have saturated the planet, we are pretty effective at life. A bit too effective.
We change our natural environment to our needs with little regard for other life forms.
We destroy to live.

The Universe exists in a constant state of destruction and creation.
The Earth didn't just appear one day as it is right now.
It took billions of years for the dust to gather. Dust and gas that used to be other stars that exploded long ago.

What's more, there is still dust adding to the planets, the Sun and the stars. A random series of events which continues over time.
This planet is not the finished product, merely the current state.

As always, I agree completely with you. What do you think the 'next state' will be? Will it be AI that we have created? Or will humans develop further into beings that we would not recognise if we were able to travel forward in time far enough? Interesting speculation!

I was on trip/vacation last week. I admire to ancient cities a bit (maybe more admire). "I really get a taste when visiting ancient cities. I forget how time passes."
And Ephesus ancient city too I visited. The ancient city of Ephesus is near the house where the Virgin Mary was thought to have lived for a while.

The location of the house contains a very meaningful coincidence;
   Our Virgin Mary's life in the world was characterized by profound and very clean humility.

              Visited house is in a bit high located location. not high enough to annoy visitors. not too high untill people can't climb. Maybe, the house is at the height that people might want.
You realize that the humble soul of the virgin Mary is actually far above her position.

              Here the clergy say that the holy Mary is very clean. I mean, he never touched a man's hand. He's the mother of all of us. Jesus is fatherless. And the Virgin Mary gave birth to the Messenger (Christ).
           In the Qur'an, the Virgin Mary is highly praised. clergy say it constantly here. Muslims have to believe that.

essentially what I want to say is:
       I'm spiritually impressed with the Virgin Mary's house. I am really impressed. A separate air begins as the car slowly moves up the hill. The closer we get to the house, the more the weight of this air rises. He reaches the top level inside the house. People are seen a softening, a calming, a maturation. And I think everyone is aware of this changing mood.
      1-2 days after the visit you better understand this mood.
"And the weather here was nothing like the weather in ancient cities."

I believe that "She" lived here for a while.

     I may not be a believing someone as God wills. but I believe in God and I am a Muslim. I can do mischief against God. . I cannot deny God for mischief.

Iam_resurrected, Christians must thank God a lot about the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ:
  If the Qur'an did not provide information about the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ, we would have laughed at the Christians. we would have to laughed at them;
- because a girl couldn't get pregnant without a man,
- because he had to be the father of a child,
- because a kid in the cradle couldn't talk,
- and of these incidents had no description to be explained by reason/science.

Iam_resurrected, maybe you should visit the Virgin Mary house.
Christians and Muslims from many different parts of the world visit "This
House".

(i hope I was able to write clearl )

I once tried to speculate on how humans would evolve and found a realistic speculation is nearly impossible due to too many 'unknown' factors.

For instance, nanotechnology.
If we master nanotechnology, the human form can be whatever we design it to be.
Not only that but the human body could be nearly indestructible with unlimited lifespan.
Those eventualities would change how our minds work.
Try to imagine how you would think if you could repair damage to your body at will, be healthy for centuries and manufacture anything atomically.
There would probably be an explosion of art and exploration.
Plus, this is only one 'for instance' scenario, there are millions of other things which could occur that would change us both physically and intellectually.

Some interesting reading on such scenarios can be found at The Orion's Arm Universe Project.
http://www.orionsarm.com/

You can spend hours just reading the Encyclopedia Galactica
http://www.orionsarm.com/xcms.php?r=oaeg-front

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So in answer to your question - I have no definite idea how humans might evolve

In the year 3000... I guarantee things will happen.. countries will be conquered the great Roman Empire... even it too collapsed. People scurrying about their lives will be talking different, different dialects new ways of talking... creating a new language. What I can also guarantee you is that religion itself will change too... Do the Gods exist? Depends on what you personally hold to your heart to push you through life... nobody knowing right from wrong is a bad morality... sometimes people need that special focus from affirmative beliefs... I'm a new founded Christian and I still have a spark of nobody being wrong about what they believe upon.

Well that settles it folks,no need for further argument or discussion.The jury has decided in the affirmative.Case dismissed. on the house.

Nanotechnology sounds great, but the thought of people not dying while new children are born is scary. Many say this planet is over populated. Hopefully if we reach that stage, we will have expanded to other planets and even settled on them.

Onward and upward!

you have all together completely avoided the fact i mentioned to you concerning our own TWO RED LINES within our Galaxy NOT BEING COUNTED in the radant spray calculation of the microwave expansion.

if correctly and properly counted, the Universe is barely 2 Billion years OLD, with Evolution taking place Mathematically about 800 BILLION YEARS TOO SOON, it's factually impossible and literally incorrect for you to assume Science is even remotely close to being right.

Mathematics alone does not equate and support their Theories. if they have no REAL SOLID FACTUAL PROOFS MATHEMATICALLY, why would someone accept their word as fact?

I don't know anything about 'red lines' in your context. I quote from the generally accepted date for the start of the universe, which of course has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I don't comment on things I don't understand.