the Law was established to show that with how we are as humans, the choices we are willing to make, the decisions we make due to being selfish, would hurt others if not themselves. the Law showed you your flaws and sins compared to what is Holy and Upright.

Yeshua upheld the Law mostly, He did break it saving an animal stuck on the Sabbath, broke it when He healed someone on the Sabbath, but then explained how what He did we all should be doing even if the Law states NO on the SABBATH!!

and then Paul, gives us another view of YESHUA/JESUS outside the Gospel view because both are Christ in charge and leading the action we read in both the Gospels and in what Paul writes and ESPECIALLY THE BOOK OF ACTS!!

Yep, all good, brother.
God bless you.

I live today.
I don't live 2,000 / 5,000 or 6,000 years ago.
Things in life are very different today.
The clergy (for simplicity) are ineffective at providing guidance for the modern age using examples, writings and routines that might have been effective thousands of years ago.
While basic common sense and basic human compassion apply at anytime, those things are not specific to religion.

Value and sanity are not paired.
All enjoy the technology from individual minds that some may deem insane.
When applied to a mind that considers others as insane, are we all not insane? Consider the scientist that discovered antibiotic properties. Perhaps they dress their pets in suits and allow them to sit at the dinner table.
That behavior would be insane to some but completely sane to others. The significance is the fact that the insane mind discovers / invents something that all benefit from. Not just their believers, all.

Clergy can sometimes make you feel better about life.
When you feel fine about life, their contribution is lost.
Their 'product' is not universal as many scientist's 'products' are.
Their product requires your belief to be effective.
Their sanity is dependent on your belief.

Real science requires confirmation from separate procedures.
It attempts to disprove everything and when it holds true despite the testing, it doesn't matter how sane the original thinker is, many others have confirmed it.

Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”

Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.

Arguments from authority carry little weight — “authorities” have made mistakes in the past.

If there’s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives.

What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Be specific.

If there’s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) — not just most of them.

Occam’s Razor
This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified…. You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

so you are saying that if just 2,000 years ago they allowed strangers into their homes, fed them for no reason but out of goodness, even gave them clothing, was friendly to all they saw walking down the dirt roads WOULD NOT BE A GOOD IDEA TODAY because this is 2,000 years later?

you are saying that the kindness and generosity bestowed upon strangers 2,000 years ago would not IMPROVE TODAY'S CURRENT SOCIETY?

you are right and want to know why?


the stigmas behind generational breeding is compounded every time your genetics becomes entwined with someone else's. we are basically mutts genetically today compared to our common ancestors. and now with Science claiming as a whole that just about every other child born today, is born with some form of Psychological Issue (not to confuse those born into a home that creates this mental illness due to surroundings). just compounds the sanity of humanity together.

SO NO, you probably don't want to let a serial killer or psychopath into your home, since in today's world, 1 out of every 3 people are narcissistic or suffer from like issues that border on the line of pure bat shyt crazy.

but we still can be like those 2,000 years ago when we are out and about mingling and passing others on our adventures.

it would be nice if more men kicked the dude's ball-sack whose hitting, abusively belittling, or physically assaulting his woman in public before all. makes me puke seeing people walk around or crossing the street to avoid seeing a woman with a bloody nose and the man still hitting her.

today's society suck.
there is no hope for it.
it's guaranteed to crash and burn.
it's just a matter of time.
once the next generation takes over, we will be so animated, technology will literally separate and eliminate many societal activities, it will be a literal dog eat dog world then!!

that is as about as far from the example we have 2,000 years ago. we are DOOMED, LITERALLY!!

Years ago I upheld the Gospel above the other letters from Disciples and the Apostle Paul. I was studying Damascus Road, where Yeshua blinds Paul on his way to kill more followers of Christ, The Law Breakers of that day.

i even studied deeper into Peter's comment of not always understanding what Paul claims, but is fully aware that what Paul claimed was directly from the Holy Spirit.

that led me to Paul eventually making his own claim of all he wrote, all he said, all he did was by direction and direct order of Yeshua.

to me, that became a DOUBLE BLESSING, Yeshua words in the Gospel and His example of how to be can be compared and confirmed by Paul's 13 letters, because those 13 Letters are directly what Yeshua told Paul to write.

this gave me 17 Books of Yeshua.

I mean, if we technically took the Old Testament, especially burning bush, and compare what God said (Elohim and I AM THAT I AM) to what Yeshua said in John 8:58 that He was "I AM," making Him the Elohim at the Burning Bush with Moses...we can tie Yeshua all over the Bible.

but the 17 Books in the New Testament are Him speaking Directly to us...that to me is as big of a blessing could get. God took 17 Books before closing that level of communication to talk to us, ima loving it!!


thank You, Brother

of course, due to those known as the "Church Fathers," we have a connection to the New Testament from then to now. the Disciple John lived to be a very old man (like Yeshua had predicted before Peter - all Disciples and Paul tortured and murdered, but John survived Patmos and lived to be well into his 120's like Genesis once promised the life span of man to be on average before sin took over) and had his own Disciples. these men in turn had their own students/Disciples. and they kept that lineage record and we know all who were students and kept the Word of God alive throughout the Centuries.

John's most famous Disciple was Polycarp!!

let's break this down...

let's say, when you come to that point in your own reasoning concerning if God exists or not, you happen to be one who somehow can see the possibility of the type of God being mentioned really existing.

you did not know you had this type of belief in you, where you have not seen evidence, but still can see the possibility.

this is exercising Faith. and we do this in ALL MATTERS of life/death/reality/Sense. and we have all stepped beyond what we knew was not there and by Faith it came to be. Most, who never had the privilege of learning about God, pass this off as a "Fluke," but to those who believe through their Faith, understand this is a point at which God is interceding and making what was not ever possible, now suddenly possible.






or,

let's just put it this way.

what if those who believe by Faith are given their Proofs that only they know could be the intercession of God.

and since God ultimately honors the true Act of Faith, those with NO FAITH will never get a sign, because they believe it's impossible for a sign to ever be given...

What I'm saying is those things still happen right now but they are not because of religion.
Acts of kindness and caring is not automatically due to religious belief.
To assert the only people able to manifest these traits must be religious is insanity.


You are acknowledging evolution.
That's how evolution works.
Which came first; the chicken or the chicken egg.
The chicken egg was first.
It was the mutt which became the chicken.

From what I have read from you before, you dismiss evolution because we can't create spontaneous life. Gotta remember, the compounds that resulted in life on this planet took a billion years or so to come together in just the right combination, in just the right temperature and pressure.
Life is the end result of a billion different combinations.
We can't possibly understand everything about spontaneous life generation because we have not had time to try billions of different combinations.
A model is not a model unless there are instructions on how and which sequence the parts go together.
We know the required components needed for life but we can't spontaneously generate life because we have not yet discovered the instruction sheet.

By you own admission, evolution is real and actual.
It makes sense to the reality we experience.

Many parts of religion do not make sense to the reality we experience.
People care about other people, animals, plants and things.
Does this make them religious?
People sacrifice for others.
Does this make them religious?
Can someone, not religious, care for something other than themselves?
Sacrifice in favor of someone else's benefit?
It happens all around you.
You may assign it a religious value but they may not.
Perhaps, they think its just the right thing to do.

The rest of what you wrote is just cynical.
I don't believe we are doomed.
I don't work that way.
The end is not upon us.
We are a very young, immature species but we are reasonable and I personally believe we are intelligent enough to out grow immature beliefs before they destroy us.

Dinosaurs lasted a couple hundred million years, humans have been around 2 million. If we make it a couple hundred million years it would be interesting but we are not doomed in a thousand or ten.

How depressing it must be to live in a world that is doomed.
Lighten up dude.
Try enjoying life right now.

In the United States what you state would not be an issue up to about mid 1900s.
In most of the eastern world, women are still property and non-people.
We are 'targeted' in part because we give our women freedom and respect as human beings.
Its a radical 'new' concept that is slowly gaining world-wide participation and the 'old ways' and those stuck in them, feel threatened by it.
Kill the infidels!

In a truly sane future, all people will be equal.
I think we are at the beginning of the change, we still have a long way to go.

the questions wasn't loaded, I simply asked you a question about your God that if you weren't afraid to answer would prove you lacked "Free Will"

THE QUESTION:
if God were convicted for speeding and stealing what would happen to him compare to what would happen to you ...clearly the one that goes to jail lacks "Free Will" 

"Will" is the ability to turn a thought into an action resulting in consequences to onself for doing so

"Free Will' is the ability to turn a thought into an action without any consequences to oneself

if you have to "pay' consequences every time you use your 'Free Will" ...then how is 'Free" .... funches 3;16

this is why 'Free Will" applies to nothing else but only one religious decision ..."believe or burn"

 

I didn't state that it's impossible to survive, I stated that in the jungle your pampered intelligence would drop to the level of the jungle creatures and most likely you yourself would be stalked outsmarted and eaten by something with the intelligence of a Duck-billed Platypus


when it comes to a belief in God the believer is either delusional or a Manchurian Candidate .... funches 3:16 


you mean like referring to oneself as a God and everyone else as sinners


How Rude ...but should someone such as yourself that worship a talking burning bush call anyone a joke .... but anyway


Jesus without a driver's license gets pulled over by the police for speeding and tell the officer ...I have not come to change the laws of driving but to fulfill them ... if the police don't first pop a cap in his apse where do you think Jesus will be fulfilling those "rules of the road" laws ... most likely in jail eating kosher baloney sandwiches

to fulfill the law means you have to follow the existing law...


yep, that's why there will be no gentiles in Heaven


even Jesus wasn't a Christian ...which is why those that are not circumcised or follow Judaism  are Paulians 


but yet didn't you promise The Lord Almighty to spread the bull...oops...er..I meant to spread the word to all nations or something

the point is when Yeshua wanted Hebrews and Gentiles to be one, this where the problems began. the Hebrew thought they were special, better than all. to now accept those you once felt permitted to **** on was going to create war. and Yeshua create war on Race!!

even today Race of people play a defining role in separating or meshing.

so it's not just acts of kindness i speak about, its seeing everyone as equals...like you speak about in your post concerning WOMEN.

but 2,000 years ago, Yeshua began the tearing of the RACES down to makes us ALL ONE!!

that is Awesome!!

and when actual Ancient historians from all over that area took notice and wrote about it, it clearly was not the NORM of those days that EVERYONE WAS EQUAL TO THE NEXT PERSON.

but that was what Yeshua did!!

so yes, He kicked something off that most hated then, and seems still hate now.

and that has NOTHING TO DO WITH BELIEFS, just who each person mentally see;s other people of different ethnicity than themselves.

But Yeshua wanted the Jews to become unbiased and non-racial to the Gentiles because they were egyptians, romans, greeks, babylonians, all peoples of the Past Present and Future. and the jews hated it because they loved being RACIST!!

and here is what is faulty about evolution.

each human genetic technically should be spot on.
we are all the same up to 99.3%
we differ at .7%

that .7% is actually specific to origin race. each jew have certain genetics, each asian and so forth. but when you mix them is when the occurrence of spontanty occurs. it really is not evolution but humans playing God with their genetics. but by now, we are all so meshed, we also have the problems related to each original genetics per Race.

if evolution worked, we would be all the same UNTIL we bred out of it. but if we come from the SAME COMMON ANCESTOR, then we will actually NEVER have bred out of it.

so, this is not evolving by evolution.

this is creating problems by mixing the races and their genetics.

even though we all begin the same, environment and how our life style dictates our choices affects our genetics. we have created our own weaknesses. so when we mix, our weaknesses become even greater.

not that mixing is wrong, i have an african american daughter (my genetics and her mothers african american), just that mixing is creating genetically greater issues.

and 10+ more generations of mixing and creating greater issues is only going to cause the human population to slow and turn on itself.

I was a Born Again Christian for 40 years, but now i am a Born Again Agnostic because I've experienced NO PROOF of a Loving Happy Helping God on this Planet Of Pain, Full of Evil Sad Sadistic Cruel People, and Wars and MENTAL and PHYSICAL ILLNESSES, NonStop Unending, etc!!!
We are ALL BRAINWASHED to believe in A SOCALLED LOVING INVISIBLE UNAVAILABLE DEAF SILENT SADISTIC VIOLENT CONFUSED PERVERTED GOOD GOD OF MANY RELIGIONS. WTF!!! One God with a Million Different Religions???!!!
If anyone wants to discuss this further here on this group chat, or One On One with me in private, just let me know by going to my dating member profile and message me please. Thanks and Have A GOOD Day.
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NOW this is the Law of the Jungle — as old and as true as the sky;
And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die.

As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back —
For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

Wash daily from nose-tip to tail-tip; drink deeply, but never too deep;
And remember the night is for hunting, and forget not the day is for sleep.

The Jackal may follow the Tiger, but, Cub, when thy whiskers are grown,
Remember the Wolf is a Hunter — go forth and get food of thine own.

Keep peace withe Lords of the Jungle — the Tiger, the Panther, and Bear.
And trouble not Hathi the Silent, and mock not the Boar in his lair.

When Pack meets with Pack in the Jungle, and neither will go from the trail,
Lie down till the leaders have spoken — it may be fair words shall prevail.

When ye fight with a Wolf of the Pack, ye must fight him alone and afar,
Lest others take part in the quarrel, and the Pack be diminished by war.

The Lair of the Wolf is his refuge, and where he has made him his home,
Not even the Head Wolf may enter, not even the Council may come.

The Lair of the Wolf is his refuge, but where he has digged it too plain,
The Council shall send him a message, and so he shall change it again.

If ye kill before midnight, be silent, and wake not the woods with your bay,
Lest ye frighten the deer from the crop, and your brothers go empty away.

Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But kill not for pleasure of killing, and seven times never kill Man!

If ye plunder his Kill from a weaker, devour not all in thy pride;
Pack-Right is the right of the meanest; so leave him the head and the hide.

The Kill of the Pack is the meat of the Pack. Ye must eat where it lies;
And no one may carry away of that meat to his lair, or he dies.

The Kill of the Wolf is the meat of the Wolf. He may do what he will;
But, till he has given permission, the Pack may not eat of that Kill.

Cub-Right is the right of the Yearling. From all of his Pack he may claim
Full-gorge when the killer has eaten; and none may refuse him the same.

Lair-Right is the right of the Mother. From all of her year she may claim
One haunch of each kill for her litter, and none may deny her the same.

Cave-Right is the right of the Father — to hunt by himself for his own:
He is freed of all calls to the Pack; he is judged by the Council alone.

Because of his age and his cunning, because of his gripe and his paw,
In all that the Law leaveth open, the word of your Head Wolf is Law.

Now these are the Laws of the Jungle, and many and mighty are they;
But the head and the hoof of the Law and the haunch and the hump is — Obey!

The Law of the Jungle - The Jungle Book
Rudyard Kipling

On evolution:

Evolution is a slow process.
It makes small changes per generation.
The differences you want will not be evident for a few million generations but each generation has small changes you may dismiss.
This is not a fault in evolution but your understanding of evolution.

There are many factors about humans that evolves that do not change our body plan.
We evolve constantly in our behavior tendancies but few behavioral changes result in a new body plan.
Body plan changes require a long duration change in environment and sustinence.

Even if there are environment changes that could result in a fast evolutionary body change, the human intellect and technology ability would postpone those changes by man-made stops.
Instead of having thinner skin and less dense fur to cope with increasing global temps, we invent air conditioning and make it efficient.
It changes the evolutionary path of an organism with our intellect and technological abilities.
It takes even longer for those changes to manifest in our generational histories.
Evolution is still happening, but at a slower rate than if we were subject to natural conditions and their effects.

Gotta try to remember our body plan is only 100,000 to 200,000 years old and if you look back further, the evidence shows us our 2 million years have been a slow evolutionary path but evolve we did and still are.
In 100,000 years, humans might look pretty much like we do now but in 2 million years, who know what features we will have?

When you believe the Erath is only 6,000 years old, evolution can't work.
When you realize the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, evolution makes more sense.

Now here, just think on this fer a second...

Lets figure a new generation happens in humans about every 20 years.
So, 20 year olds are having babies.
Yeah, that's about right (for the most part).
In 2,000 years, that is 400 generations.
However, humans 2,000 years ago were not directly influenced by their environment or sustainability.
There were farmers, fishers, houses, clothing, fires and a whole slew of human inventions affecting how nature effects our sustainability.
There were people that ate fish they didn't catch. Wore clothing from animals they didn't kill and so on.
So, lets go back to the so-called beginning of the Earth.
6,000 years is enough time for roughly 1200 generations.
Still not enough time to greatly change a body plan.
But, lets go back 2 million years.
Now we are talking about 400 thousand generations, much of which were not affected by invention or industry.
We see evidence of many evolutionary changes in the human body plan.
Can you see how evolution works?

Even right now, evolution is changing us each generation.
The change is hard to notice but it is happening.
If you were to take someone from the 1800s and give them a drink of water they may have trouble metabolizing it. They probably couldn't deal with most of our foods. Not because the food is poisonous but because their metabolism was slightly different from ours.
We can't perform those tests because we have no persons alive from that time period and the change in us is so slight, we never notice it.
In 200 years, a human may not be able to eat a Big Mac (not that you should right now).

The Sun is getting hotter.
Its slowly getting hotter as it makes its way deeper into its main sequence.
The Earth is spinning slower.
Its been slowing for millions of years.
The Moon is slowly edging more distant, someday, there will never be a lunar or solar eclipse.
Its not going to happen over night, it happens slowly over time.
It is evolution.

Evolution is not just limited to life forms.
The entire Universe is evolving.

TY'all can have any delusions you want, if they give you peace, who am I to argue with you.
However, if you do not have actual peace and contentment, you might want to look at and remove some of your delusions.

About 50 years ago Martin Luther King Jr. did the same thing?

Human beings are a social species.
A social species strives to create unity.
ANY fool know this. 2,000 years ago, 50 years ago and today.

The utoptian plateau of any society is complete unity.
Realistically, in a chaotic Universe, complete utopias and complete dystopias can not exist.

Unity of all human beings would be a societal complete utopia.
Unrealistic in the real Universe.
As long as chaos exists in the Universe, a perfect utopia cannot exist.
One that would assume so, would technically be considered as 'unsane' or as you like to put it, 'insane'.
Only a person with delusions would expect a perfect utopia (or a perfect dystopia).


You're right.
It has EVERYTHING to do with rational thinking.

and 50 years ago, Martin Luther also had 2 prominent reminders we once valued and kept hollow to our oaths...the Pledge of
Allegiance and the citing of the 10 Commandments.

and ironically, for the past 1200 years, the 10 Commandments has been a STAPLE in our everyday society.

nnow, whether people were somewhat naturally good or the FACT they had a CONSTANT REMINDER of the 10 Commandments...but since the 10 Commandments has been banned...science has noticed a DECLINE in humanity towards helping, caring, and going beyond NORM to help others.

ironic that Science has noticed this decline. they are not placing value upon the 10 Commandments, but they noticed a removed REMINDER of how to treat others has led to humanity in decline!!

that is because you do not ask for the correct response concerning God.

is God killing people during WAR?
NO

is God the reason that 1 out of every 3 persons suffers today from some form of Delusional Issue that causes them Mental Problems?
NO

is God the reason why some Mental Insane person takes a semi-auto and blasts 40 peeps at a time in a movie theatre, place to eat or church or club setting?
NO

the blizzard that the weather channel gave warning that 200 peeps end up stuck in and die because they did not listen to the weather report...is that God's fault for not listening to the weather report and end up dying over it?
NO

in fact, NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE GOD'S FAULT AND MANY THINGS ARE ALL DUE TO HUMAN ERROR, NOT EVEN RELATING TO GOD AT ALL, SO HOW IS IT HE IS GETTING BLAMED BY SOMEONE LIKE YOU?



if all of these tragedies are created by HUMAN BEINGS, how is it God's fault for not fixing YOUR MORONIC PROBLEMS?