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Topic: Religion is Child Abuse?
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 02:07 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 04/14/12 02:19 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. did you personally see Jesus rise from the grave? ...... did Jesus tell you this that time you claimed that you walked with him see how you sound delusional

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 02:23 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. did you personally see Jesus rise from the grave? ...... did Jesus tell you this that time you claimed that you walked with him see how you sound delusional Oh wow with the way you look at things, the entire world runs entirely on delusions. You didn't see the man go to the moon, you didn't see anything in history, you didn't see many things. The only things you have seen have been the things that have directly happened to you. So I'm gonna state here what you are saying, is if it didn't happen to you, it's delusional?

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 04/14/12 02:34 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 04/14/12 02:34 PM
Oh wow with the way you look at things, the entire world runs entirely on delusions. You didn't see the man go to the moon, you didn't see anything in history, you didn't see many things. The only things you have seen have been the things that have directly happened to you. So I'm gonna state here what you are saying, is if it didn't happen to you, it's delusional? Cowboy.....if someone claim that a dead man rose from the grave and flew to the Moon after three days then wouldn't you think they were delusional... but yet you want to believe that a dead guy rising from the grave after three days and then floating up to heaven doesn't mean you aren't delusional.... now you understand why religion provides a safe haven for delusional people

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 02:41 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 02:42 PM
Oh wow with the way you look at things, the entire world runs entirely on delusions. You didn't see the man go to the moon, you didn't see anything in history, you didn't see many things. The only things you have seen have been the things that have directly happened to you. So I'm gonna state here what you are saying, is if it didn't happen to you, it's delusional? Cowboy.....if someone claim that a dead man rose from the grave and flew to the Moon after three days then wouldn't you think they were delusional... but yet you want to believe that a dead guy rising from the grave after three days and then floating up to heaven doesn't mean you aren't delusional.... now you understand why religion provides a safe haven for delusional people It's only delusional from your perspective because you lack the faith it happened. It's your opinion that it's delusional, not a fact.

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 04/14/12 02:53 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 02:59 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 04/14/12 03:50 PM
It's only delusional from your perspective because you lack the faith it happened. It's your opinion that it's delusional, not a fact. Cowboy..it's a fact that as of now people that been dead and buried for three days do not rise up on their own power out of the grave.... do you know any dead people this has happen to that exist beyond a character in a book?

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 04/14/12 05:20 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 07:53 PM
It's only delusional from your perspective because you lack the faith it happened. It's your opinion that it's delusional, not a fact. Cowboy..it's a fact that as of now people that been dead and buried for three days do not rise up on their own power out of the grave.... do you know any dead people this has happen to that exist beyond a character in a book? None yet, Christ has not come back. Only Jesus can defeat death for anyone. No one else is great, strong enough, or perfect enough to do such a thing.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 07:58 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 08:06 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. There has to be some other meaning of "son of man" then we are looking at though. Ezekial is referred to as "Son of man" as well. That is why it's key to keep what is said in context to really understand exactly what it's meaning.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 08:19 PM
It's only delusional from your perspective because you lack the faith it happened. It's your opinion that it's delusional, not a fact. Cowboy..it's a fact that as of now people that been dead and buried for three days do not rise up on their own power out of the grave.... do you know any dead people this has happen to that exist beyond a character in a book? None yet, Christ has not come back. Only Jesus can defeat death for anyone. No one else is great, strong enough, or perfect enough to do such a thing. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Also wish to point out something here. Notice who will descend from Heaven... the Lord. So is there now two Lords? As you like to state Jesus and Christ are to different beings. No, I don't think so lol. There is but one Lord, and that is Jesus "Christ".

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 04/14/12 09:06 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. Now you begin to pick at the truth O' Wandering Seeker. Jesus was delivered to the hand of men... Yet Jesus is also the Son of God (made so by birth). Keep delving. The end of the journey draws nigh and the adventure comes close to begining.

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 04/14/12 09:11 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. There has to be some other meaning of "son of man" then we are looking at though. Ezekial is referred to as "Son of man" as well. That is why it's key to keep what is said in context to really understand exactly what it's meaning. Perhaps more meaning then you are looking at. I know what the meaning is. Yes indeed the journey nears an end. Should you but open your eyes. Isaiah (and many others) were also 'son of man'. Yet Jesus was Son of God (does not your book tell you this).

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 09:18 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. Now you begin to pick at the truth O' Wandering Seeker. Jesus was delivered to the hand of men... Yet Jesus is also the Son of God (made so by birth). Keep delving. The end of the journey draws nigh and the adventure comes close to begining. Jesus is God. Please give a verse that says Jesus is specifically the son of God. Not verses where Jesus refers to his father as God, but where it specifically says Son of God as it does Son of man.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 09:19 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. There has to be some other meaning of "son of man" then we are looking at though. Ezekial is referred to as "Son of man" as well. That is why it's key to keep what is said in context to really understand exactly what it's meaning. Perhaps more meaning then you are looking at. I know what the meaning is. Yes indeed the journey nears an end. Should you but open your eyes. Isaiah (and many others) were also 'son of man'. Yet Jesus was Son of God (does not your book tell you this). The book tells me nothing. The book is but paper and ink. God tells me that which I speak of. God tells anyone who is willing to lend an ear in search of knowledge.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 04/14/12 09:21 PM
You choosing not to believe it, doesn't make it a delusion. Only from your perspective is it a delusion, and your perspective doesn't constitute it as a fact, just merely an opinion. You have all the right to have an opinion. Cowboy... people do not rise from graves after being dead for three days...so your claim that Jesus rising from the grave after being dead for three days... is not an opinion...it's a delusion.... Only Jesus has the power to defeat death. I didn't say anyone else could do it. So yes you are absolutely correct "people" do not rise from graves after being dead for three days, but our God did. Your God may have. God did not die. Jesus did. Jesus did not Rise. Christ did. God can not die. You're looking at death from a secular perspective Adventure. Death means to go to Hell. Jesus our God went to hell for each and everyone of us and spent 3 days there. But defeated death in the end and broke free, death could not hold his soul. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. Death is Death and does not kill mankind (for our Image can not die) Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Not one single human has ever gone to hell. GRACE WAS GRANTED by the very Advent of Christ. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. He will not be in you. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. O' Wandering seeker... Why do you dig so furiously in the Sands upon the Book? I look upon death from the perspective of Reality. When the body dies it rots. Yet the spirit does not die it rises to God. It's not in the sands of a book, it's from the knowledge that the book possess. The book itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on, it's not the paper and ink that is important, it is the knowledge inside that is written as to carry on and not be forgotten or changed. Hell is within the Valley of the Damnd and there is but one name upon the Stone Tablet that marks the way(Satan). Hell is in the heart of the Earth. And this makes sence of the discriptions of Hell. The center of the Earth is molten lava, how would they know this in that day and age? No they don't use the term "lava", they use brimstone and fire. But nevertheless same difference. Ye if you cling to the shadow of Jesus you will be unable to Rise as did Christ. Jesus is Christ eg., Jesus Christ. You have stated many times that Jesus walks beside you. (indeed he does). Listen to him. God walks IN you. Christ is Risen. Jesus is in me, he is beside me, he is above me. Jesus is in everyone of us, beside everyone of us, and is above everyone of us. Jesus is Christ. Cowboy there are indeed Sands upon the Book from the lying pens of the multitudes of Scribes that have touched the book between the utterance of the Word and the moment you first saw it... Hell is listed but ONCE in the Word... It is the holding place of satan. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). What does the end time prophesy say about the one that descends in the clouds O' delver in sands and many meanings? does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Quit living in the past and step to the reality of today. Christ has Risen. You confuse the unwary when you send them looking for Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God (the Lamb given for the Sins of Man). and does it say Son of God or Son of Man? Jesus is both son of man and son of God. Both titles are used referring to Jesus Christ, and both refer to him as alive, so it's not like while he was in the flesh he was son of man and when he was crucified became son of God. Luke 9:44 44Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. This verse is referring to them coming for Jesus for the crucifixion. There has to be some other meaning of "son of man" then we are looking at though. Ezekial is referred to as "Son of man" as well. That is why it's key to keep what is said in context to really understand exactly what it's meaning. Perhaps more meaning then you are looking at. I know what the meaning is. Yes indeed the journey nears an end. Should you but open your eyes. Isaiah (and many others) were also 'son of man'. Yet Jesus was Son of God (does not your book tell you this). The book tells me nothing. The book is but paper and ink. God tells me that which I speak of. God tells anyone who is willing to lend an ear in search of knowledge. But we are all "children" of God. Jesus is special in this specific aspect in that fact that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN child of God. But we are all children of God.