so God is incapable of healing anyone using a priest?

No, there's that possiblity. But why would a priest heal the person physical and or why would one take their hurt child to a preist? Why you speak so much nonesence?

Cowboy...where did those of Faith take their sick or dying children to before there were doctors?

They didn't, they allowed the person to rest and took care of the person best they could, allowing God to do the rest.

I mean, where would you take your child if there was no doctors?

so therefore God "needs" no one in order to Heal a sick of dying Child?

God has no needs.

then he should be able to heal a sick or dying child without taking the child to anyone else ....don't you agree?

Yeah, he can. But why would he?

yes...why would he....

Mysticism

What is mysticism? Mysticism is the acceptance of allegations without evidence or proof, either apart from or against the evidence of one’s senses and one’s reason. Mysticism is the claim to some non-sensory, non-rational, non-definable, non-identifiable means of knowledge, such as “instinct,” “intuition,” “revelation,” or any form of “just knowing.”

Reason is the perception of reality, and rests on a single axiom: the Law of Identity.

Mysticism is the claim to the perception of some other reality—other than the one in which we live—whose definition is only that it is not natural, it is supernatural, and is to be perceived by some form of unnatural or supernatural means.

The damnation of this earth as a realm where nothing is possible to man but pain, disaster and defeat, a realm inferior to another, “higher,” reality; the damnation of all values, enjoyment, achievement and success on earth as a proof of depravity; the damnation of man’s mind as a source of pride, and the damnation of reason as a “limited,” deceptive, unreliable, impotent faculty, incapable of perceiving the “real” reality and the “true” truth; the split of man in two, setting his consciousness (his soul) against his body, and his moral values against his own interest; the damnation of man’s nature, body and self as evil; the commandment of self-sacrifice, renunciation, suffering, obedience, humility and faith, as the good; the damnation of life and the worship of death, with the promise of rewards beyond the grave—these are the necessary tenets of the [mystic’s] view of existence, as they have been in every variant of [mystical] philosophy throughout the course of mankind’s history.

When a mystic declares that he feels the existence of a power superior to reason, he feels it all right, but that power is not an omniscient super-spirit of the universe, it is the consciousness of any passer-by to whom he has surrendered his own. A mystic is driven by the urge to impress, to cheat, to flatter, to deceive, to force that omnipotent consciousness of others. “They” are his only key to reality, he feels that he cannot exist save by harnessing their mysterious power and extorting their unaccountable consent. “They” are his only means of perception and, like a blind man who depends on the sight of a dog, he feels he must leash them in order to live. To control the consciousness of others becomes his only passion; power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind.


For centuries, the mystics of spirit had existed by running a protection racket—by making life on earth unbearable, then charging you for consolation and relief, by forbidding all the virtues that make existence possible, then riding on the shoulders of your guilt, by declaring production and joy to be sins, then collecting blackmail from the sinners.

Men have been taught either that knowledge is impossible (skepticism) or that it is available without effort (mysticism). These two positions appear to be antagonists, but are, in fact, two variants on the same theme, two sides of the same fraudulent coin: the attempt to escape the responsibility of rational cognition and the absolutism of reality—the attempt to assert the primacy of consciousness over existence.



Only three brief periods of history were culturally dominated by a philosophy of reason: ancient Greece, the Renaissance, the nineteenth century. These three periods were the source of mankind’s greatest progress in all fields of intellectual achievement—and the eras of greatest political freedom. The rest of human history was dominated by mysticism of one kind or another, that is: by the belief that man’s mind is impotent, that reason is futile or evil or both, and that man must be guided by some irrational “instinct” or feeling or intuition or revelation, by some form of blind, unreasoning faith. All the centuries dominated by mysticism were the eras of political tyranny and slavery, of rule by brute force—from the primitive barbarism of the jungle—to the Pharaohs of Egypt—to the emperors of Rome—to the feudalism of the Dark and Middle Ages—to the absolute monarchies of Europe—to the modern dictatorships of Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany and all their lesser carbon copies.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/mysticism.html

Judge,and stand up to be Judged!

Perfect shot,dude

I remember when people once rage war and killed in the name of The Easter Bunny

OMG,I don't believe this kind of horrible thinking exist in some minds.



I'm sure,if everyone properly nourishes their kids with spiritual teachings from the beginning whole world might never have gone crazy for drugs & cold war.

hmmm...I heard of an incidence where an innocent child died as jumped from balcony to follow some superhero's style.

perhaps they thought they were walking on water

or they can easily jump from heights as factious characters / super hero's do.
Miserable is the thinking that considers "teaching about god as superstition or abusive".They think they are making their child daring by showing them serials of superheros.
They think they are advancing their children by not teaching them the prayers to god.

don't they teach that God has Super power and to have Faith in him?...perhaps the child was making a leap of Faith by jumping from the balcony

but either way...no sane person rage war and kill in the name of comic book Super heroes

Who was advocating that parents should teach their kids to believe in superheroes?

Again, silly arguments.

I dont believe that all parents are abusing their kids by bringing them up with religion. But i do believe that many are, and none of them will realise they are doing it.

If you teach your kid to fear god so much that he has nightmares, you are abusing him. If you teach your kids not to accept people with different faiths or no faith, or homosexuals, you are abusing him and teaching him to abuse others. If you force your beliefs upon him in a way that he has to live in fear of letting you down because he learns not to agree with you later in life, you are abusing him. If you teach him that the earth is only 10,000 years old, you are going to make a fool of him as you do yourself, and you are abusing him.

There are many other ways in which religious parents abuse their kids, i will post more as i think of them.