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no matter how many times you ask , the answer doesnt change
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no matter how many times you ask , the answer doesnt change wrong again MsHarmony....unlike you Cowboy attempted to answer the question in the context it was presented ...it may have got him in trouble for doing so...but then again that's Cowboy |
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no matter how many times you ask , the answer doesnt change wrong again MsHarmony....unlike you Cowboy attempted to answer the question in the context it was presented ...it may have got him in trouble for doing so...but then again that's Cowboy lol,,,,,keep trying,,, |
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unless you are willing to lie and claim that Cowboy never gave an answer different than your answer....then I no longer have to try
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good deal
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it's taboo for a believer to answer that question in the context it was presented ..but no such restrictions "exist" for the non-believer
I guess that makes Cowboy a non-believer |
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it's taboo for a believer to answer that question in the context it was presented ..but no such restrictions "exist" for the non-believer I guess that makes Cowboy a non-believer ??? I said both. Because to know something is to believe something and to believe something is to know something. What is your vendeta against me Funches? |
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Since all education involves inaccuracies and learning by error and conjecture and hypothesis and interpretation... Then by this standard ALL education would be child abuse!
http://youtu.be/xhgE5bfcFTU
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I said both. no Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tue 04/17/12 08:44 PM
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". You can't have one without the other. You can not believe in someting and or believe something but not know it. You can not know something but believe it and or in it. |
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A dangerous habit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Funches... Knowing and believing... I know I exist. I beleive you exist (you keep showing up in the reality I know). Msharmony had the right of it. BOTH. AdventureBegins...the question was constructed to include no other existence but the one that dared to answer the question which is why your attempt to use parables to include my existence is an attempt to deceive .... the fact that the religious are not willing to answer the truth about their own existence is why they can't be trusted to tell the truth about a so call God existence and an example of why religion is abuse...and abuse to children...because it teaches them how to find ways to lie to others and to themselves Funches... Your attempt to stat my facts as if they were a parable is a false reasoning. a parable would have been a story. Fact. I am. Fact. That that I am interacts with an avatar that is attached to a name 'funches'... I believe that you are simply because you exist in my am. No decption has occured. Deception would be if I tried to tell you that your are not because I did not believe the reality of your existance. 'Both' is the only possible answer to you question and still remain honest to what I am. me. has not a whit to do with either religion OR god. Just reality. AdventureBegins...either your using parables or you have a mild case of dyslexia but either way the question pertains only to your existence here's the question again ....remember choose either "know" or "believe" when answering the question about "your" existence THE QUESTION: do you "Know" that you yourself exist or do you "Believe" that you yourself exist? THE ANSWER: Both! (what I KNOW I also BELIEVE)... BOTH! Further explanation... To know is to believe. BOTH! If you pluck a hair from your head and split it into two pieces which piece came from you? AdventureBegins...."both" was not one of the options ....the options were "Know" or "Believe" all you have to do is pick one....why do religious people find this impossible to do .....especially when it pertains to their own existence so come on AdventureBegins here's the question again, give it the old college try...do it for the Gipper, if you have to do an "Eeny Meeny Miny Mo" ...but pick one...you can do it THE QUESTION do you "Know" that you yourself exist or do you "Believe" that you yourself exist O' Sitting Thinker... Both! Is the only answer which actually fits your question. If both is not acceptable as an answer to your question than the only answer I can give other than 'both' is... It matters not if I know or believe... I am... Is this not so? |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" |
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O' Sitting Thinker... Both! Is the only answer which actually fits your question. If both is not acceptable as an answer to your question than the only answer I can give other than 'both' is... It matters not if I know or believe... I am... Is this not so? AdventureBegins...it's a simply question that ask one to choose from one of two options that represents their existence it's not a question to trick you....just to enlighten you.... |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" And you are absolutely incorrect. It matters not which one anyone picks, it results to the same ending. Believing and knowing is the exact same thing. |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" thinking people are not 'forbidden' from any answer, whatever their beliefs are the question is a philisophical one that has no absolute correct answer your philisophical belief is that you 'know' you exist my belief is that I know I exist and I believe I exist if I did not believe it, I couldnt know it and if I didnt know it, I couldnt believe it,,, people thousands of years ago would swear they 'knew' the world to be flat,,but they would still be wrong and basing their 'knowledge' on the information available at the time perception is reality and what we KNOW starts with how we perceive,,,and is reaffirmed or negated by what the 'collective' agrees they 'know'..... |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" And you are absolutely incorrect. It matters not which one anyone picks, it results to the same ending. Believing and knowing is the exact same thing. Cowboy...you are the one that gave the answer "believe" ...which means that you are in fact now arguing with yourself ...I only presented the question but it would be an enlightenment to the forum as to why you choose the option "believe" .....can you explain to the forum why?...and can you do it without including the option "know" in your explanation |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" thinking people are not 'forbidden' from any answer, whatever their beliefs are the question is a philisophical one that has no absolute correct answer your philisophical belief is that you 'know' you exist my belief is that I know I exist and I believe I exist if I did not believe it, I couldnt know it and if I didnt know it, I couldnt believe it,,, people thousands of years ago would swear they 'knew' the world to be flat,,but they would still be wrong and basing their 'knowledge' on the information available at the time perception is reality and what we KNOW starts with how we perceive,,,and is reaffirmed or negated by what the 'collective' agrees they 'know'..... MsHarmony...if you existed as The World, whether you were Flat or Round would still not change the question do you "know" that you yourself exist or do you "believe" that you yourself exist all you had to do was pick the one that most closely represented your existence .... |
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I said both. Cowboy...you picked "believe" ..... Doesn't necassarily matter which one I "picked". well actually it does matter...especially since the question pertains only to ones own existence ..the question is a Litmus Test a person would have to be either mentally or morally challenged to pick the option "believe"... a religious person is forbidden to pick any of the options that existed in the question and therefore would pick an option "that didn't exist" ..."both" a non-believer would not be bound by a belief and therefore have no reason to not tell the truth and pick "know" thinking people are not 'forbidden' from any answer, whatever their beliefs are the question is a philisophical one that has no absolute correct answer your philisophical belief is that you 'know' you exist my belief is that I know I exist and I believe I exist if I did not believe it, I couldnt know it and if I didnt know it, I couldnt believe it,,, people thousands of years ago would swear they 'knew' the world to be flat,,but they would still be wrong and basing their 'knowledge' on the information available at the time perception is reality and what we KNOW starts with how we perceive,,,and is reaffirmed or negated by what the 'collective' agrees they 'know'..... MsHarmony...if you existed as The World, whether you were Flat or Round would still not change the question do you "know" that you yourself exist or do you "believe" that you yourself exist all you had to do was pick the one that most closely represented your existence .... I think you want me to pick what represents YOUR existence,, I already answered what pertains to my own,,, |
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I think you want me to pick what represents YOUR existence,, MsHarmony....now you sound like AdventureBegins....the question pertains to your existence solely ...yours alone, no one else ......now you're being paranoid |
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