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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Fri 12/16/11 02:59 PM


You sure it wasn't a penis?

I remember that is what you kept saying it was if it wasn't a rib.

Maybe you should change your dating preferences, ya think?



nope, I said that your lack of one is why you believe that God must have pulled off Adam's ...that would explain why you call yourself Peter_Pan

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Fri 12/16/11 03:07 PM



You sure it wasn't a penis?

I remember that is what you kept saying it was if it wasn't a rib.

Maybe you should change your dating preferences, ya think?



nope, I said that your lack of one is why you believe that God must have pulled off Adam's ...that would explain why you call yourself Peter_Pan



And now you lie???


Show me where you said that prior to your current breakdown...






Truth hurts sometimes, but it'll help you grow into a man one day.




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Fri 12/16/11 03:23 PM




You sure it wasn't a penis?

I remember that is what you kept saying it was if it wasn't a rib.

Maybe you should change your dating preferences, ya think?



nope, I said that your lack of one is why you believe that God must have pulled off Adam's ...that would explain why you call yourself Peter_Pan



And now you lie???


Show me where you said that prior to your current breakdown...

Truth hurts sometimes, but it'll help you grow into a man one day.


this coming from someone with the name Peter_Pan about a boy that refuse to grow up...some say that he was actually a woman and not a boy

but anyway Pamala_ Pan...oops I meant Peter_Pan ...it's time to stop flaming and get back on topic

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Fri 12/16/11 03:45 PM





You sure it wasn't a penis?

I remember that is what you kept saying it was if it wasn't a rib.

Maybe you should change your dating preferences, ya think?



nope, I said that your lack of one is why you believe that God must have pulled off Adam's ...that would explain why you call yourself Peter_Pan



And now you lie???


Show me where you said that prior to your current breakdown...

Truth hurts sometimes, but it'll help you grow into a man one day.


this coming from someone with the name Peter_Pan about a boy that refuse to grow up...some say that he was actually a woman and not a boy

but anyway Pamala_ Pan...oops I meant Peter_Pan ...it's time to stop flaming and get back on topic



Fine then ya flamer.

Answer the question(s) or humble yourself before one with greater knowledge.



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Mon 12/19/11 09:33 AM
can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them

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Mon 12/19/11 01:32 PM

can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.

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Mon 12/19/11 01:39 PM


can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.



can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?


And to answer this question.

John 10:30
30I and my Father are one

So the answer to your question would be, only if the father couldn't lift it. And that would never happen, for God can do all things.

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Mon 12/19/11 07:37 PM


can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.



then according to you Adam and Eve was fooled by an animal less intelligent than theirselves ....good thing they took from the fruit


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Mon 12/19/11 07:40 PM

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.


there is no mention of any Lord God during the 6 days of creation

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Mon 12/19/11 07:47 PM



can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.



can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?


And to answer this question.

John 10:30
30I and my Father are one

So the answer to your question would be, only if the father couldn't lift it. And that would never happen, for God can do all things.


Cowboy....no need for you to hide behind deceptive parables...you already answered "yes" that God could create a rock that jesus can't lift ......which means that you now know that you worship a false idol ...

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Mon 12/19/11 08:50 PM


Can the logic of funches out-think the logic of funches?



Stay tuned and find out...






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Thu 12/22/11 12:02 AM






Jeremiah 7:21-23
King James Version (KJV)


21Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.

22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.



It should be noted that other translations state the opposite of the KJV. IE: that God spoke "not only about" sacrifices...

But, if you take other verses from the OT that instruct the Israelites to NOT worship YHWH like the heathens worship their gods, then I figure if they sacrifice, we shouldn't... (which totally agrees with my conscience)...






Yahweh is Ticked here Peter. They are living amoung people sacraficing to demons..

Jer 7:16-20

16 "Therefore do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me; for I will not hear you. 17 Do you not see what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger. 19 Do they provoke Me to anger?" says Yahweh. "Do they not provoke themselves, to the shame of their own faces?"

20 Therefore thus says Yahweh Elohim: "Behold, My anger and My fury will be poured out on this place — on man and on beast, on the trees of the field and on the fruit of the ground. And it will burn and not be quenched."
NKJV


this is what he says right before he says I will not accept your sacrafices.. its like sinning and then saying i am sorry and then sinning again knowing all u have to do is say i am sorry again.

He says do as your forefathers did and obey my voice.. stop it NOW.. thats my take on it at least.. Blessings..Miles



This isn't the only time Israel has been "chastened" by the prophets for their meaningless sacrifices. This is however, one time that "Moses's Law" should come under scrutiny if YHWH did NOT command Moses concerning sacrifices.


But this isn't the only time that "the Law" should come under scrutiny either. The Israelites where chastened numerous times for being total fucups...






Yahweh commanded the sacrafises.. they were a foreshadow of many things to come. Yahshua included.

The Israelites got with other nations and took on thier pagan practices. I mean look at chr-stmas a pagan practise everybodie knows and it did not come into the believers untill the 4th century.

what would Yahweh say to someone celebrating Satanlia? were getting ready to in 20 days.

we do not think about that much because the law is whatever anyone says it is in thier heart.

we here that all the time also.

The prophets never wanted the job.. they knew what they had to do nobody was going to like.

Jonah didn't and Moses didn't.. none of them said me , me pick me.

They had to speak for Yahweh and it was never about doing what he said to do in the law if they were not perversing it like the Pharasees did.

Yahshua said he was coming back in a wicked and adultrous time.

Look what was going on when he came.. Herod and the great slaughter of the Innocent 2 years and under all males.

The next Herod when John was baptising had his brothers wife.

in the roman community everything that is being done now was being done then.. whatever the imagination wanted.

ministers making themselves prophets and messiahs.

2 Peter 2:1-3

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
NKJV

Deceptive words.. some preacher are so good at twisting scripture which they know exactly what they are doing I wonder wow if they would just follow where Yahweh said go it would be great.. but they will not.. thier used to the way things are and they like it.

jeremiah's time all over again..Blessings..Miles






Forgive me Miles, I meant to post this last week but obviously forgot...


Bolded above are a few sentences which I would like to address. One is really insignificant (pick me!), but the other supports my belief of "corrupted" laws...


Isaiah 6:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.



Jeremiah 8:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.



Jeremiah 8:8
New International Version (NIV)

8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?




Isaiah 6:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.



Wow..Thanks

All this time I thought all the prophets did not want the job.. I will have to read isaYah a little differently now.


Yahweh commanded the sacrafises.. they were a foreshadow of many things to come. Yahshua included.




Jeremiah 8:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.



Jeremiah 8:8
New International Version (NIV)

8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?





I can see Prophecy in this.. I am not sure if the law and Sacrafices as being Wrong maybe because it says the lying Pen of the Scribes must have it wrong for us today or not.. Is that what u mean?

It is a very revealing message, JerimYah is to give.

Anyways Praise Yahweh, HalleluYah.. a correctment is always a win win situation through Yahweh.

May Yahweh Bless you ..Miles

Num 6:24-26

24 "Yahweh bless you and keep you;
25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
26 Yahweh lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you Shalom."'
NKJV

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Thu 12/22/11 01:07 AM

I can see Prophecy in this.. I am not sure if the law and Sacrafices as being Wrong maybe because it says the lying Pen of the Scribes must have it wrong for us today or not.. Is that what u mean?



All I'm saying is that I have good reason to doubt some of the so-called "laws".

I trust my heart and the more I search, the more I learn that the bible actually coincides with my feelings...



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Thu 12/22/11 06:28 AM




can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.



can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?


And to answer this question.

John 10:30
30I and my Father are one

So the answer to your question would be, only if the father couldn't lift it. And that would never happen, for God can do all things.


Cowboy....no need for you to hide behind deceptive parables...you already answered "yes" that God could create a rock that jesus can't lift ......which means that you now know that you worship a false idol ...


Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."

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Thu 12/22/11 07:44 AM


Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."



Cowboy, the info you seek is right next to the one where funches admitted to lying and badgering...




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Thu 12/22/11 08:32 AM


And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.


there is no mention of any Lord God during the 6 days of creation


There isn't? hmmm


Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens

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Thu 12/22/11 08:42 AM



Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."



Cowboy, the info you seek is right next to the one where funches admitted to lying and badgering...






John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise

When I said Jesus can do nothing on his own is where I'm assuming ya'll are referring to. Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Ghost make up ONE God. So with saying "Can God create a rock Jesus can not life" is an inaccurate statement as Jesus is our God.

But if the question is "Can the FATHER create a rock that Jesus can't life?" The answer would be yes, as Jesus has said himself, he can do nothing without the father. If the Father created a rock Jesus couldn't lift, it would then be against the Father's will for Jesus to lift it, and if it's against the Father's will, then Jesus can not lift it, for on his own without the father he can do nothing.


John 5:30
30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

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Thu 12/22/11 08:55 AM




Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."



Cowboy, the info you seek is right next to the one where funches admitted to lying and badgering...






John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise

When I said Jesus can do nothing on his own is where I'm assuming ya'll are referring to. Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Ghost make up ONE God. So with saying "Can God create a rock Jesus can not life" is an inaccurate statement as Jesus is our God.

But if the question is "Can the FATHER create a rock that Jesus can't life?" The answer would be yes, as Jesus has said himself, he can do nothing without the father. If the Father created a rock Jesus couldn't lift, it would then be against the Father's will for Jesus to lift it, and if it's against the Father's will, then Jesus can not lift it, for on his own without the father he can do nothing.


John 5:30
30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.



Actually, that was supposed to be sarcasm.

I never saw you post half of the things funches says you did.



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Thu 12/22/11 09:00 AM





Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."



Cowboy, the info you seek is right next to the one where funches admitted to lying and badgering...






John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise

When I said Jesus can do nothing on his own is where I'm assuming ya'll are referring to. Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Ghost make up ONE God. So with saying "Can God create a rock Jesus can not life" is an inaccurate statement as Jesus is our God.

But if the question is "Can the FATHER create a rock that Jesus can't life?" The answer would be yes, as Jesus has said himself, he can do nothing without the father. If the Father created a rock Jesus couldn't lift, it would then be against the Father's will for Jesus to lift it, and if it's against the Father's will, then Jesus can not lift it, for on his own without the father he can do nothing.


John 5:30
30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.



Actually, that was supposed to be sarcasm.

I never saw you post half of the things funches says you did.





lol ok, sarcasm is a little hard to pick up on through typing discussions >.<.

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Thu 12/22/11 12:27 PM
Edited by funches on Thu 12/22/11 12:31 PM





can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?

this has been found to be the simple yes or no question that proves that Jesus isn't God or a God...and therefore cause The concept of the Trinity to collapse

because to answer

1.Yes..means that Jesus isn't omnipotent and therefore not a God
2.No...means that Jesus is greater than the Father

but either answer displays how neither God nor Jesus are equal or the same or one being,

now that we got that out of the way the search for Jesus in Genesis continues to see if he existed as someone else or perhaps something else

and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them



and this question once again makes reference to Genesis 3:1 ...as to why would God create a serpent more intelligence that those that supposedly had dominion over them


He didn't.

And you have been shown many verses that say LORD God, in Genesis. Jesus is our only LORD, there is no other LORD but Jesus Christ our LORD and savior.



can the Father create a rock that Jesus can't lift?


And to answer this question.

John 10:30
30I and my Father are one

So the answer to your question would be, only if the father couldn't lift it. And that would never happen, for God can do all things.


Cowboy....no need for you to hide behind deceptive parables...you already answered "yes" that God could create a rock that jesus can't lift ......which means that you now know that you worship a false idol ...


Nobody posted a parable. And please show where I said God could make a rock Jesus can't lift, because Jesus is our God.

"Thou shall not tempt, the lord thy God."


Cowboy... you answered Yes to the question as indicated in your post below...


POSTED BY COWBOY:
Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it.



only false Gods need help ...

can Jesus create a rock that the Father can't lift?

Hell No....er..no pun intended

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