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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Fri 12/16/11 07:49 AM










That is because The Word didn't become flesh to dwell among us until. The word wasn't flesh or a "MAN" until the time John 1:14 happened.

John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



that passage is not from Genesis ....that is why some would say that Christianity is false idol worshipping because they claim that God is a Man

whether Jesus is a God or a false idol can be proved by asking one question

THE QUESTION:
can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift


Of course it's not from Genesis, lol you're really funny Funches. Never said it was. In the time of Genesis, the Word was just that, The Word and dwelt in Heaven with the Father. The Word eg., Jesus did not dwell among us until the time of John 1:14. The Word had not become flesh eg., Jesus. So again there would be absolutely no reason to have mention of "Jesus" in Genesis, for God had not took that form yet.


if you claim that Jesus is not a false idol...then answer the question

THE QUESTION
can The Father create a rock that Jesus the son can't lift


What does that have to do with a false idol?


those that know and worship Jesus as a false idol will ask "what does that have to do with a false idol" instead of answering the question



Those who don't know the difference between a rib and a penis will cry "stalker" instead of answering the question...





rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl





lol

*looks around for the like button to like the post*


Peter_Pan...is this the kind of stuff you learn from following Yahweh ...perhaps Yahweh should learn to do background checks




Ewwww, it hurts to admit that funches doesn't know the answers?


Don't worry, I'll be here to point out your errors.






Peter_Pan...how long are you going to flame

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Fri 12/16/11 07:50 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 12/16/11 08:01 AM


He didn't use the specific words no, because the language between now and then has change dramatically. But he did refer to them all as separate "persons". This can be seen again in verses such as when he was on the cross he said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Jesus was speaking to the father as another being then he himself. Because if he wasn't speaking as such, he would have been speaking vein words to himself.


BY GOLLY,I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE GETTING IT FINALLY, COWBOY !!!drinker


KEEP IT UP NOW....



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


I'm sorry MorningSong, I seem to have failed in the past in my explaining of certain things. But this is what I've always believed, sorry if in the past I had failed at explaining it as such.

Because of my injury, I occasionally have difficulties with trying to explain exactly what I'm trying to say. Not finding of the right words and what not. Again, sorry for any confusion this may have caused.




WELLL, I AM BELIEVING YOU ARE GONNA GET IT ALL.....flowerforyou


JUST ONE MORE THING THOUGH, FROM YOUR FORMER POST JUST NOW :


IT WAS NOT ANOTHER BEING JESUS WAS SPEAKING TO,

COWBOY...THAT WAS THE OTHER PERSON OF THE GODHEAD THAT JESUS

WAS SPEAKING TO....THAT PERSON WAS GOD THE FATHER.


BUT AGAIN,WE USE THE TERM ,PERSON (INSTEAD OF BEING AS YOU

CALLED THE PERSON JUST NOW) TO

DESCRIBE THE DISTINCTIONS WITHIN THE ONE GOD.


I KNOW BY YOUR SAYING BEING, THAT YOU REALLY MEAN PERSON

NOW...BUT IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER CONFUSION, LETS

JUST STICK TO USING THE WORD, PERSON ....OK COWBOY ?



:heart::heart::heart:

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Fri 12/16/11 07:52 AM




those that don't know what they are talking about will say "those that know and worship Jesus as a false idol will ask "what does that have to do with a false idol" instead of answering the question" As to not answer the question proposes for they know not the answer.


Cowboy... by answering the question with a simple "yes or no" it can be determine whether or not you worship a false idol

QUESTION:
can the father create a rock that the son can't lift



John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise..


sorry Cowboy...I asked you the question...unless of course you are incapable of thinking for yourself which would explain why you would have to follow a false idol

all it takes is a yes or a no answer

so let's try again

Cowboy...yes or no...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift


And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise

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Fri 12/16/11 07:54 AM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Fri 12/16/11 07:56 AM











That is because The Word didn't become flesh to dwell among us until. The word wasn't flesh or a "MAN" until the time John 1:14 happened.

John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



that passage is not from Genesis ....that is why some would say that Christianity is false idol worshipping because they claim that God is a Man

whether Jesus is a God or a false idol can be proved by asking one question

THE QUESTION:
can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift


Of course it's not from Genesis, lol you're really funny Funches. Never said it was. In the time of Genesis, the Word was just that, The Word and dwelt in Heaven with the Father. The Word eg., Jesus did not dwell among us until the time of John 1:14. The Word had not become flesh eg., Jesus. So again there would be absolutely no reason to have mention of "Jesus" in Genesis, for God had not took that form yet.


if you claim that Jesus is not a false idol...then answer the question

THE QUESTION
can The Father create a rock that Jesus the son can't lift


What does that have to do with a false idol?


those that know and worship Jesus as a false idol will ask "what does that have to do with a false idol" instead of answering the question



Those who don't know the difference between a rib and a penis will cry "stalker" instead of answering the question...





rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl





lol

*looks around for the like button to like the post*


Peter_Pan...is this the kind of stuff you learn from following Yahweh ...perhaps Yahweh should learn to do background checks




Ewwww, it hurts to admit that funches doesn't know the answers?


Don't worry, I'll be here to point out your errors.






Peter_Pan...how long are you going to flame



funchees, how long are you going to continue to prove how uninformed you are?


It wasn't a rib... SO WHAT WAS IT???




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Fri 12/16/11 07:55 AM



He didn't use the specific words no, because the language between now and then has change dramatically. But he did refer to them all as separate "persons". This can be seen again in verses such as when he was on the cross he said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Jesus was speaking to the father as another being then he himself. Because if he wasn't speaking as such, he would have been speaking vein words to himself.


BY GOLLY,I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE GETTING IT FINALLY, COWBOY !!!drinker


KEEP IT UP NOW....



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


I'm sorry MorningSong, I seem to have failed in the past in my explaining of certain things. But this is what I've always believed, sorry if in the past I had failed at explaining it as such.

Because of my injury, I occasionally have difficulties with trying to explain exactly what I'm trying to say. Not finding of the right words and what not. Again, sorry for any confusion this may have caused.




WELLL, I AM BELIEVING YOU ARE GONNA GET IT ALL.....flowerforyou


JUST ONE MORE THING THOUGH, FROM YOUR FORMER POST JUST NOW :


IT WAS NOT ANOTHER BEING JESUS WAS SPEAKING TO,

COWBOY...THAT WAS THE OTHER PERSON OF THE GODHEAD THAT JESUS

WAS SPEAKING TO....THAT PERSON WAS GOD THE FATHER.


BUT AGAIN,WE USE THE TERM ,PERSON (INSTEAD OF BEING) TO

DESCRIBE THE DISTINCTIONS WITHIN THE ONE GOD.



:heart::heart::heart:



IT WAS NOT ANOTHER BEING JESUS WAS SPEAKING TO,

COWBOY...THAT WAS THE OTHER PERSON OF THE GODHEAD THAT JESUS

WAS SPEAKING TO....THAT PERSON WAS GOD THE FATHER.


Exactly, see this is what I mean lol. When I say/said "another being", I was referring to "another person". But yes, they all three make up the same God.

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Fri 12/16/11 08:03 AM

And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift


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Fri 12/16/11 08:03 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 12/16/11 08:04 AM
Exactly, see this is what I mean lol. When I say/said "another being", I was referring to "another person". But yes, they all three make up the same God





EXACTLY !!!!!!!drinker


VERY GOOD ,COWBOY !!!!:banana:



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Fri 12/16/11 08:13 AM


And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"

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Fri 12/16/11 08:20 AM



And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping

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Fri 12/16/11 08:22 AM




And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.

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Fri 12/16/11 08:32 AM





And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.


a God that need help to lift rocks is a false idol

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Fri 12/16/11 08:33 AM






And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.


a God that need help to lift rocks is a false idol


No, we all are in need of the father.

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Fri 12/16/11 08:34 AM







And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.


a God that need help to lift rocks is a false idol


No, we all are in need of the father.


a God has no Father

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Fri 12/16/11 08:40 AM








And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.


a God that need help to lift rocks is a false idol


No, we all are in need of the father.


a God has no Father


Incorrect, we all have a Father.

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Fri 12/16/11 08:42 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 12/16/11 08:48 AM
No, because Jesus is our God.




AND GOD THE FATHER,GOD THE SON (JESUS ) ,AND GOD THE

HOLY SPIRIT ,ARE ONE GOD.

ONE SUPREME BEING.

AMEN !!!


G'DAY ALL...HAVE TO RUN NOW.

BE BLESSED ALL.


FUNCHES...BEHAVE YOURSELF WITH THOSE ROCKS NOW.:wink:


PETER-PAN,IT WAS A RIB OR RIBCAGE....OR SIDE OF ADAM...NOT A WOMB.

IF IT WERE A WOMB, MAN WOULD HAVE HAD A WOMB GROW BACK IN EVERY

MAN BORN AFTERWARDS.... BUT THAT OF COURSE,DID NOT HAPPEN.

FUNCHES POINTED THIS OUT IN AN EARLIER POST...WHICH WAS QUITE

SHARP ON HIS PART.:wink:


COWBOY....I AM PROUD OF YOU TODAY.flowerforyou


BE GOOD NOW, EVERYONE....


LATER ......drinker


LOVE YOU ALL.....flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


SO DOES GOD !!!:heart::heart::heart:





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Fri 12/16/11 09:57 AM









And I answered.

John 5:19

19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise



jeez I may have to start a thread about questions that false idolers won't answer

but anyway the passage you provided state nothing about a rock which was in the question I asked you

all you have to do is answer with a simple yes or no...why is that so hard to do if Jesus isn't a false idol

so again Cowboy...can the father create a rock that Jesus can't lift




Yes, assuming the father wouldn't help Jesus in doing it. Again, "I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself"



and this is why worshipping Jesus as a God is false idol worshipping


No, because Jesus is our God.


a God that need help to lift rocks is a false idol


No, we all are in need of the father.


a God has no Father


Incorrect, we all have a Father.


cool...that means that "God The Father" has a Father....and is also a false God

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Fri 12/16/11 10:45 AM

FUNCHES...BEHAVE YOURSELF WITH THOSE ROCKS NOW.:wink:


I'm only going to use them to cast the first stone

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Fri 12/16/11 10:48 AM


FUNCHES...BEHAVE YOURSELF WITH THOSE ROCKS NOW.:wink:


I'm only going to use them to cast the first stone



Interesting...


You will only use them to cast the first stone???


I guess you think more than one can be first now?



jeez funches, it's simple, do you always get things wrong???



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Fri 12/16/11 10:54 AM



FUNCHES...BEHAVE YOURSELF WITH THOSE ROCKS NOW.:wink:


I'm only going to use them to cast the first stone



Interesting...


You will only use them to cast the first stone???


I guess you think more than one can be first now?



jeez funches, it's simple, do you always get things wrong???





can you do anything besides flame....maybe you should join the X-Men

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Fri 12/16/11 11:03 AM




FUNCHES...BEHAVE YOURSELF WITH THOSE ROCKS NOW.:wink:


I'm only going to use them to cast the first stone



Interesting...


You will only use them to cast the first stone???


I guess you think more than one can be first now?



jeez funches, it's simple, do you always get things wrong???





can you do anything besides flame....maybe you should join the X-Men



Ha!


It's nice to see you running from my question.

Cry "flame" or cry "stalker", anything except for attemping to answer the question(s) which would prove to everyone how little you know?


OK then, since you avoid my other questions, do you think God called the first man Adam?


Think carefully before you answer, anything that is not an answer will be recognised as an admission of ignorance on your part.


Damn, I never thought you'd run away...



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