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referring to the father and the holy spirit as a person is simply a tactic to keep from admitting that some Christians worship three Gods the Christians that only worship one God would never or have to refer to the father as a person to explain God No one is saying God is a person. how is it in the Grace of God to use the term "person" to describe him ...it's clearly not in the bible ..this is what I mean about you running to Satan's dictionary and Satan websites to get your biblical information from the Old Terstament made sure that any attempts to turn Jesus or any man into God, will always take away from God's Grace .. I didn't use "person" to describe him. I said person"s" in description of all three. Saying person"s" shows the separation of the mentioned parties physically, not specifically saying they are a person. God is neither person or "persons" ..the fact that you have to refer to your God as "persons"...should provide a clue that you are worshipping the wrong God |
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"God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being". Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. if God is not a species...then that means that The Father is Baal What does that have to do with one another? Baal was a God in the bible...so if The Father is not one in a species of Gods known as "Elohim" therefore The Father must be Baal in your attempt to turn the Man called Jesus into God the only way to do this is to change the meaning of the word God which is impossible to acheive using the bible so instead you Cowboy ran to Satan's Dictionary to find a meaning that would fit your agenda, now you claim that the term God is only "a title of authority" which anyone can hold...you even claim in your post that a person's God could be a beer to suggest that God is anything but the creator goes against Christianity...and here you are doing exactly that by referring to God as "persons" ..... this is how the AntiChrist will form his legion...from followers that believe that a Man or "persons" can be God or is God no where in The Bible does God refer to himself as being "persons"...but yet here you are preaching that he is repent heathen Baal was a God in the bible...so if The Father is not one in a species of Gods known as "Elohim" therefore The Father must be Baal What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. in your attempt to turn the Man called Jesus into God the only way to do this is to change the meaning of the word God which is impossible to acheive using the bible so instead you Cowboy ran to Satan's Dictionary to find a meaning that would fit your agenda, I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim |
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Absolutely not lol. Jesus has entire authority everyone and everything thing. He is our God.
Ok Cowboy...right here..you say Jesus is our God. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ). But when Christians say, JESUS IS OUR GOD , this is what we mean: JESUS IS JUST AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD... JESUS IS EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD.... AND BECAUSE THE FATHER GAVE JESUS AlL THE GLORY NOW , IT IS OK TO WORSHIP JESUS AS GOD. ( Find and Read the scriptures again, that point this out ....I shared them in an earlier post). FATHER, JESUS , AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ....AGAIN, ARE THE 3 PERSONS IN IN IN ONE GOD ...AND EACH PERSON IS EQUALLY GOD. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ) There right here is where all the confusion came from of what you think I believe. When I say separate entity I am meaning it the same way you are meaning separate person. We worship ONE God, ONE, not two, or three, but ONE. God is not a TITLE. GOD ALMIGHTY IS A SUPREME BEING. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Look who's talking about running! LOL!!! I have a rib for ya.... |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim Baal is neither the father, nor does he have anything to do with God. He is a false idol. Notice they LEFT all the commandments of the LORD their God and worshipped Baal. 2 Kings 17:16 16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. |
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Absolutely not lol. Jesus has entire authority everyone and everything thing. He is our God.
Ok Cowboy...right here..you say Jesus is our God. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ). But when Christians say, JESUS IS OUR GOD , this is what we mean: JESUS IS JUST AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD... JESUS IS EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD.... AND BECAUSE THE FATHER GAVE JESUS AlL THE GLORY NOW , IT IS OK TO WORSHIP JESUS AS GOD. ( Find and Read the scriptures again, that point this out ....I shared them in an earlier post). FATHER, JESUS , AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ....AGAIN, ARE THE 3 PERSONS IN IN IN ONE GOD ...AND EACH PERSON IS EQUALLY GOD. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ) There right here is where all the confusion came from of what you think I believe. When I say separate entity I am meaning it the same way you are meaning separate person. We worship ONE God, ONE, not two, or three, but ONE. God is not a TITLE. GOD ALMIGHTY IS A SUPREME BEING. Yes God is a supreme being. The WORD "God" is used to show authority. "God" is not a name. When it says just "God" as not LORD God or anything of such, it is speaking of the father. And the father is referred to as "God" because he is supreme to us. And that is why it is a "title" as we don't know the name of the father, we know the name of the son, but not specifically the father. As Jesus never told us his name, only referred to God as his father or his God. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Of course not, Jesus is not a dictionary. Jesus used words that he knew we knew or knew we should know the meaning of. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Look who's talking about running! LOL!!! I have a rib for ya.... jeez... Peter_Pan the stalker is back |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim Baal is neither the father, nor does he have anything to do with God. He is a false idol. Notice they LEFT all the commandments of the LORD their God and worshipped Baal. 2 Kings 17:16 16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. you claim that Baal is a false idol....some would say that you have turned Jesus into a false idol |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Of course not, Jesus is not a dictionary. Jesus used words that he knew we knew or knew we should know the meaning of. Jesus never refer to God as being "persons" when it came to God...but yet for some odd reason you see fit to do so |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim Baal is neither the father, nor does he have anything to do with God. He is a false idol. Notice they LEFT all the commandments of the LORD their God and worshipped Baal. 2 Kings 17:16 16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. you claim that Baal is a false idol....some would say that you have turned Jesus into a false idol But he is not a false idol or even specifically an idol. Jesus is God. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Of course not, Jesus is not a dictionary. Jesus used words that he knew we knew or knew we should know the meaning of. Jesus never refer to God as being "persons" when it came to God...but yet for some odd reason you see fit to do so He didn't use the specific words no, because the language between now and then has change dramatically. But he did refer to them all as separate "persons". This can be seen again in verses such as when he was on the cross he said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Jesus was speaking to the father as another being then he himself. Because if he wasn't speaking as such, he would have been speaking vein words to himself. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Look who's talking about running! LOL!!! I have a rib for ya.... jeez... Peter_Pan the stalker is back Yeah, cry "stalker" because I will always be better than you at your own game... Now, go ask Baal if you can have a taste of his rib... |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim Baal is neither the father, nor does he have anything to do with God. He is a false idol. Notice they LEFT all the commandments of the LORD their God and worshipped Baal. 2 Kings 17:16 16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. you claim that Baal is a false idol....some would say that you have turned Jesus into a false idol But he is not a false idol or even specifically an idol. Jesus is God. I'm only saying that some would say that claiming that a Man is God is the same as false idol worshipping ....Genesis states nothing about a Man being God |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Look who's talking about running! LOL!!! I have a rib for ya.... jeez... Peter_Pan the stalker is back Yeah, cry "stalker" because I will always be better than you at your own game... Now, go ask Baal if you can have a taste of his rib... nice to see how you are here representing Yahweh ..... |
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What are you talking about? "Elohim" is not a name. Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. isn't that what I said...either Baal is The Father, or Baal and The Father belong to a race of Gods called Elohim the trinity is comprise of three of these Gods from the Elohim Baal is neither the father, nor does he have anything to do with God. He is a false idol. Notice they LEFT all the commandments of the LORD their God and worshipped Baal. 2 Kings 17:16 16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. you claim that Baal is a false idol....some would say that you have turned Jesus into a false idol But he is not a false idol or even specifically an idol. Jesus is God. I'm only saying that some would say that claiming that a Man is God is the same as false idol worshipping ....Genesis states nothing about a Man being God That is because The Word didn't become flesh to dwell among us until. The word wasn't flesh or a "MAN" until the time John 1:14 happened. John 1:14 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Of course not, Jesus is not a dictionary. Jesus used words that he knew we knew or knew we should know the meaning of. Jesus never refer to God as being "persons" when it came to God...but yet for some odd reason you see fit to do so He didn't use the specific words no, because the language between now and then has change dramatically. But he did refer to them all as separate "persons". This can be seen again in verses such as when he was on the cross he said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Jesus was speaking to the father as another being then he himself. Because if he wasn't speaking as such, he would have been speaking vein words to himself. you're still trying to blame Jesus....where is a passage in the bible where Jesus refer to The Father as "persons" .... |
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I personally didn't do it, it has always been that way. The Lord THY God. Luke 4:12 12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Cowboy...see how you now try to run...it was you that ran to Satan's dictionary and claim that God is a "title of authority" ..now you are trying to blame Jesus ....no where in that verse you provided does Jesus say anything about God meaning title of Authority Look who's talking about running! LOL!!! I have a rib for ya.... jeez... Peter_Pan the stalker is back Yeah, cry "stalker" because I will always be better than you at your own game... Now, go ask Baal if you can have a taste of his rib... nice to see how you are here representing Yahweh ..... Nice to see you ran from two of my questions. You can admit that you don't know answers, most are already aware of this.... |
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