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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Sat 12/10/11 06:12 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 12/10/11 06:18 AM
All 3 Persons of the Trinity are 3

SEPARATE Persons , YET ALL 3 SEPARATE PERSONS WITHIN THE ONE

GODHEAD, STILL MAKE UP ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY(ENTITY ).




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Sat 12/10/11 06:20 AM
MorningSong...you're avoiding the question

if the holy spirit is a God...and it was the holy spirit that enter into Mary to spawn Jesus....then explain why The Holy Spirit is not The Father

or explain why the holy spirit is not credited with being The FATHER OF JESUS

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Sat 12/10/11 06:52 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 12/10/11 06:57 AM

MorningSong...you're avoiding the question

if the holy spirit is a God...and it was the holy spirit that enter into Mary to spawn Jesus....then explain why The Holy Spirit is not The Father

or explain why the holy spirit is not credited with being The FATHER OF JESUS


God The Holy Spirit is NOT " a" God.....but a Person.

A SEPARATE Person from the Person of God the Father...and

SEPARATE Person from the Person of God the Son

But Remember now ...The 3 SEPARATE Persons TOGETHER WITHIN THE

ONE GODHEAD ,STILL MAKE UP ONLY ONE GOD.

NOT "A" God...BUT ONE GOD ALMIGHTY.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY.


Funches,a suggestion:

Spend some time Reading the Word for yourself in order to gain

a better understanding ,Funches...



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Sat 12/10/11 07:04 AM

Funches,a suggestion:

Spend some time Reading the Word for yourself in order to gain

a better understandng ,Funches...


are you suggesting that I should go to those Satan Websites like "gotquestions" .com that Christians seems to frequent which twist the bible to fit any agenda except the agenda God placed in The Bible

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Sat 12/10/11 07:13 AM

God The Holy Spirit is NOT " a" God.....but a Person.



wow...I never heard that one before...that was something that I would expect Cowboy to say..but why would The Holy Spirit being a person change the question...we all know that people or persons that conceived a "Begotton Child" would considered to be The Father

so again MorningSong..why isn't The Holy Spirit The actual Father of Jesus

this is one of the reasons why The Trinity is false

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Sat 12/10/11 02:04 PM
I doubt if anyone or any Satan website can answer the question as to if the Holy Spirit is the one that conceived Jesus then why isn't the Holy Spirit credited as being The Father of Jesus

so I guess it's time to move on with the quest to find Jesus and perhaps ask him "who's your daddy" or atleast recommand that he take a paternal DNA test

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Sat 12/10/11 02:13 PM
Genesis 2:25
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


if God created Adam and Eve naked, and they were the only two people on the planet, and they had no clue what clothes was, then why would they be ashame...unless of the course if the animals in the garden were sporting clothes from WalMart

in our quest for Jesus we have learned that God did not introduce the concept of "to die" or the concept of "nakedness" to Adam and Eve but for some odd reason expected them to know

if there were a problem with being naked then why did God create them naked ...but there is one explanation for this

since God is the creator of everything...this must be that point in time when he created Porn


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Sat 12/10/11 02:17 PM
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, Yes, has God said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?


so did God create the animals with the ability to talk or did he create Adam and Eve as Mr.and Mrs. Dr.Dolittle that could talk to the animals

but the passage use the word "subtle" which is an indication that the serpent could conceive complex concepts and hold complex converstaions and when the serpent spoke to Eve the serpent talked in parables in an attempt to confuse her......

since Jesus talked in parables to confuse his followers then perhaps we have finally found Jesus in Genesis...and he is the serpent

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Sat 12/10/11 07:18 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 12/10/11 07:30 PM

I doubt if anyone or any Satan website can answer the question as to if the Holy Spirit is the one that conceived Jesus then why isn't the Holy Spirit credited as being The Father of Jesus

so I guess it's time to move on with the quest to find Jesus and perhaps ask him "who's your daddy" or atleast recommand that he take a paternal DNA test


Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus. A "Spirit" is not something tangible. It's not a physical existence. Jesus' soul/spirit was The Holy Spirit inside of his body, the temple of God.

Luke 1:34-35

34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

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Sat 12/10/11 07:23 PM

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, Yes, has God said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?


so did God create the animals with the ability to talk or did he create Adam and Eve as Mr.and Mrs. Dr.Dolittle that could talk to the animals

but the passage use the word "subtle" which is an indication that the serpent could conceive complex concepts and hold complex converstaions and when the serpent spoke to Eve the serpent talked in parables in an attempt to confuse her......

since Jesus talked in parables to confuse his followers then perhaps we have finally found Jesus in Genesis...and he is the serpent




since Jesus talked in parables to confuse his followers then perhaps we have finally found Jesus in Genesis...and he is the serpent


Jesus didn't talk in parables to confuse anyone. He talked in parables to give better understanding of what he was saying. Behind the same words come many different meanings. So in order for us not to guess at the meaning of what he was saying, he said what he said in relation to what he was saying to give better understanding.

Example -

In this day and age, "cool" means to entirely separate things. Yes one is slang, but nevertheless in our language today it holds that meaning.

1. It's cool outside.

This could mean it's chilly or semi-cold outside. Or it could be really neat outside, could be a beautiful sunset outside.

This applies to how and why Jesus spoke the way he spoke, as many words can be used as such.

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Sun 12/11/11 06:12 AM

Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus.


so Jesus is now both the Son and the Holy Spirit but not The Father

if we go with your theory...it's no longer a Trinity

The Trinity is supposedly three persons or Three Gods rolled up in one....you now reduced it to two ...that's a "Duet"....

I now bless you in the name of The Father and The Holy Spirit .....but what happen to the Son....according to Cowboy...The Holy Spirit is The Son

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Sun 12/11/11 06:31 AM
Edited by funches on Sun 12/11/11 06:55 AM

Jesus didn't talk in parables to confuse anyone. He talked in parables to give better understanding of what he was saying.


wouldn't the same also apply to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden when parables were used to speak to Eve

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Sun 12/11/11 08:45 AM


Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus.


so Jesus is now both the Son and the Holy Spirit but not The Father

if we go with your theory...it's no longer a Trinity

The Trinity is supposedly three persons or Three Gods rolled up in one....you now reduced it to two ...that's a "Duet"....

I now bless you in the name of The Father and The Holy Spirit .....but what happen to the Son....according to Cowboy...The Holy Spirit is The Son


Don't add words that aren't there. They are all three one.

John 10:30

30I and my Father are one.

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Sun 12/11/11 08:46 AM


Jesus didn't talk in parables to confuse anyone. He talked in parables to give better understanding of what he was saying.


wouldn't the same also apply to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden when parables were used to speak to Eve


And when exactly did the Serpent speak in parables?

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Sun 12/11/11 09:41 AM



Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus.


so Jesus is now both the Son and the Holy Spirit but not The Father

if we go with your theory...it's no longer a Trinity

The Trinity is supposedly three persons or Three Gods rolled up in one....you now reduced it to two ...that's a "Duet"....

I now bless you in the name of The Father and The Holy Spirit .....but what happen to the Son....according to Cowboy...The Holy Spirit is The Son


Don't add words that aren't there. They are all three one.

John 10:30

30I and my Father are one.


COWBOY POSTED: page 14 verse 1 of this thread
How can Jesus be the SON of God the father if he is God the father incarnated on Earth?


dude you should try to remember what you post...but anyway now that we have it in your own words that Jesus isn't the Father ...let's try the question again

are you saying that Jesus is both the Holy Spirit and The Son but not The Father



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Sun 12/11/11 09:43 AM



Jesus didn't talk in parables to confuse anyone. He talked in parables to give better understanding of what he was saying.


wouldn't the same also apply to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden when parables were used to speak to Eve


And when exactly did the Serpent speak in parables?


In The Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve ....DUH

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Sun 12/11/11 09:45 AM




Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus.


so Jesus is now both the Son and the Holy Spirit but not The Father

if we go with your theory...it's no longer a Trinity

The Trinity is supposedly three persons or Three Gods rolled up in one....you now reduced it to two ...that's a "Duet"....

I now bless you in the name of The Father and The Holy Spirit .....but what happen to the Son....according to Cowboy...The Holy Spirit is The Son


Don't add words that aren't there. They are all three one.

John 10:30

30I and my Father are one.


COWBOY POSTED: page 14 verse 1 of this thread
How can Jesus be the SON of God the father if he is God the father incarnated on Earth?


dude you should try to remember what you post...but anyway now that we have it in your own words that Jesus isn't the Father ...let's try the question again

are you saying that Jesus is both the Holy Spirit and The Son but not The Father





It's called learning Funches, learning. That happens when there is something you don't know of, are unaware of, or just didn't think of.

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Sun 12/11/11 09:45 AM




Jesus didn't talk in parables to confuse anyone. He talked in parables to give better understanding of what he was saying.


wouldn't the same also apply to the Serpent in the Garden of Eden when parables were used to speak to Eve


And when exactly did the Serpent speak in parables?


In The Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve ....DUH


Would you mind enlightening me/us with these verses where the Serpent spoke in parables please?

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Sun 12/11/11 10:06 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 12/11/11 10:58 AM
SAYING IT ONE MORE TIME :



The 3 SEPARATE PERSONS WITHIN THE TRIUNE GODHEAD

DO NOT SWITCH POSITIONS .

EACH OF THE THREE SEPARATE PERSONS WITHIN ONE GOD ,

REMAIN THE SAME PERSON....AND ALL 3 PERSONS WITHIN

ONE GOD ARE ALL EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD.


IT WAS GOD THE SON ON THE CROSS.......NOT GOD THE FATHER ON

THE CROSS.


GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON , AND GOD THE HOLY SPRIT MAKE

UP ONLY ONE GOD......

AND THE 3 PERSONS WITHIN THE ONE GOD, ARE ALL EQUALLY GOD.


ALSO IN JESUS DWELLS THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY !!!


ALSO..........BECAUSE OF WHAT JESUS DID ON THAT CROSS FOR US

ALL ,GOD THE FATHER HAS GIVEN ALL GLORY NOW TO HIS SON

JESUS...AND HAS EXALTED THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS ABOVE

EVERY NAME NOW !!!!


JESUS...THE NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME!!!


ALL POWER AND GLORY IS IN THE NAME OF JESUS NOW !!!


JESUS IS EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD....

AND BECAUSE OF WHAT JESUS ( GOD THE SON ,WHO IS EQUALLY

GOD WITH THE FATHER )DID FOR US ON THAT

CROSS , HE IS WORTHY OF OUR PRAISE AND WORSHIP AND OUR

ADORATION FOREVER MORE !!!

WHY?

BECAUSE....JESUS IS GOD !!


WHEN WE WORSHIP JESUS, WE ARE WORSHIPPING GOD !!!


REMEMBER NOW..


COLOSSIANS 2:9

" FOR IN JESUS DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY " !!!!


ARE YOU HEARING THIS???


HERE IT IS AGAIN:


" FOR IN JESUS DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY "


ALL THE FULNESS OF THE DEITY DWELLS IN JESUS NOW !!!!!!


AMEN AND AMEN AND AMEN !!!!!!

:heart::heart::heart:

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Sun 12/11/11 12:08 PM





Because the Holy Spirit is Jesus.


so Jesus is now both the Son and the Holy Spirit but not The Father

if we go with your theory...it's no longer a Trinity

The Trinity is supposedly three persons or Three Gods rolled up in one....you now reduced it to two ...that's a "Duet"....

I now bless you in the name of The Father and The Holy Spirit .....but what happen to the Son....according to Cowboy...The Holy Spirit is The Son


Don't add words that aren't there. They are all three one.

John 10:30

30I and my Father are one.


COWBOY POSTED: page 14 verse 1 of this thread
How can Jesus be the SON of God the father if he is God the father incarnated on Earth?


dude you should try to remember what you post...but anyway now that we have it in your own words that Jesus isn't the Father ...let's try the question again

are you saying that Jesus is both the Holy Spirit and The Son but not The Father





It's called learning Funches, learning. That happens when there is something you don't know of, are unaware of, or just didn't think of.


Cowboy, I can find at least a hundred posts if not thousands where you claim that Jesus wasn't The Father but yet just now you were attempting to play like he was

now why is that?.....it's something very odd going on with you

but anyway now that you "LEARNED" that Jesus isn't the Father...do you still believe that Jesus is both The Son and The Holy Spirit


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