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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 03:23 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 12/12/11 03:24 PM
THE HOLY SPIRIT OVERSHADOWED MARY. THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS SENT FROM THE MOST HIGH GOD MEANING,GOD THE FATHER WAS ALSO ON THE SCENE. AND THE WORD BECAME FLESH.....MEANING, THE WORD WAS ALSO INVOLVED, FUNCHES. ALL 3 ARE ALWAYS INVOLVED. MorningSong ...sending an Embassy to conceive a child does not make the sender the biological Father or makes the child his "BeGotton Son"...those rights falls to the Embassy The Holy Spirit was the one that conceived Jesus but yet is denied any credit or rights as being The Father "why the holy spirit is not The Father of Jesus" is simply one of those questions that Christians are taboo from answering because it proves The Trinity to be fake Who's talking about an Embassy to conceive any child? Luke 1:34-35 34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. Now who is the Holy Ghost eg., The Holy Spirit? 2 Corinthians 3:16-17 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. It is only the King James Version of the Bible which uses the term “Holy Ghost.” It occurs 90 times in the KJV. The term “Holy Spirit” occurs 7 times in the KJV. There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. The exact same Greek and Hebrew words are translated "ghost" and "spirit" in the KJV in different occurrences of the words

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 03:52 PM
Who's talking about an Embassy to conceive any child? MorningSong stated that God sent The Holy Spirit...that's called an Embassy ...and amazingly Mary did get pregnant by him ....so why the confusion

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:03 PM
The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Cowboy...you are still hung up on the sex part....I'm pretty sure how ever they had sex they used "The Missionary Position"...but anyway the question is not addressing that...... since you claimed that mary was impregnanted with the Holy Spirit....now explain why Jesus isn't "The Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:07 PM
Who's talking about an Embassy to conceive any child? MorningSong stated that God sent The Holy Spirit...that's called an Embassy ...and amazingly Mary did get pregnant by him ....so why the confusion The Holy Spirit didn't impregnate her. She impregnated WITH the Holy Spirit eg., Jesus. Jesus is THAT spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:09 PM
The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Cowboy...you are still hung up on the sex part....I'm pretty sure how ever they had sex they used "The Missionary Position"...but anyway the question is not addressing that...... since you claimed that mary was impregnanted with the Holy Spirit....now explain why Jesus isn't "The Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit Jesus is the Holy Spirit in the flesh.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:09 PM
The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Cowboy...you are still hung up on the sex part....I'm pretty sure how ever they had sex they used "The Missionary Position"...but anyway the question is not addressing that...... since you claimed that mary was impregnanted with the Holy Spirit....now explain why Jesus isn't "The Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit She was impregnated WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:10 PM
There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. probably because ghost and spirit are the same thing.... it's a fact that you can't see one without seeing the other....no pun intended

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:13 PM
There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. probably because ghost and spirit are the same thing.... it's a fact that you can't see one without seeing the other....no pun intended Yeah but it is unclear why the term Ghost is used in some places and Spirit is used in some places. Only the King James used Ghost in most places and Spirit in only a few. Same word is translated both ways.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:16 PM
Jesus is the Holy Spirit in the flesh. are you sure? that would mean that Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit and therefore two parts of The Trinity and that the Father is only one part that makes Jesus greater than The Father

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:18 PM
There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. probably because ghost and spirit are the same thing.... it's a fact that you can't see one without seeing the other....no pun intended Yeah but it is unclear why the term Ghost is used in some places and Spirit is used in some places. Only the King James used Ghost in most places and Spirit in only a few. Same word is translated both ways. this is why religion is the same as the paranormal...

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:21 PM
Jesus is the Holy Spirit in the flesh. are you sure? that would mean that Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit and therefore two parts of The Trinity and that the Father is only one part that makes Jesus greater than The Father Again, Marry was conceived WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God, the Father is God. They all make up one God. In Arabic, the word walad means "a physical boy born as a result of the marriage of a man and a woman. The Arabic word ibin, is the word used for son throughout the Arabic translation of the Bible in reference to Jesus' relationship with God. Ibin-Allah (Son of God) indicates a strong spiritual relationship between Jesus and God, a spiritual sonship in which Jesus was submissive and obedient to God as His Heavenly Father.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:21 PM
The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Cowboy...you are still hung up on the sex part....I'm pretty sure how ever they had sex they used "The Missionary Position"...but anyway the question is not addressing that...... since you claimed that mary was impregnanted with the Holy Spirit....now explain why Jesus isn't "The Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit She was impregnated WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit. doesn't matter....the holy spirit is clearly the Father....now why isn't Jesus his "Begotton Son" this question is also designed to pop you into reality as to why Jesus isn't the holy spirit

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:23 PM
The Holy Ghost/Spirit didn't impregnate Marry like a man would a woman. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Cowboy...you are still hung up on the sex part....I'm pretty sure how ever they had sex they used "The Missionary Position"...but anyway the question is not addressing that...... since you claimed that mary was impregnanted with the Holy Spirit....now explain why Jesus isn't "The Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit She was impregnated WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit. doesn't matter....the holy spirit is clearly the Father....now why isn't Jesus his "Begotton Son" this question is also designed to pop you into reality as to why Jesus isn't the holy spirit He is the Holy Spirit in flesh. That is why Jesus could and did say "My father and I are one".

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:33 PM
Jesus is the Holy Spirit in the flesh. are you sure? that would mean that Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit and therefore two parts of The Trinity and that the Father is only one part that makes Jesus greater than The Father Again, Marry was conceived WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God, the Father is God. They all make up one God. In Arabic, the word walad means "a physical boy born as a result of the marriage of a man and a woman. The Arabic word ibin, is the word used for son throughout the Arabic translation of the Bible in reference to Jesus' relationship with God. Ibin-Allah (Son of God) indicates a strong spiritual relationship between Jesus and God, a spiritual sonship in which Jesus was submissive and obedient to God as His Heavenly Father. dude which of those Satan Websites did you "google cut and paste" from.....but anyway it's simply just a sad attempt on your part to deflect from the statement you made............... you claimed That Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit....Jesus has two votes to God one vote.....you have made Jesus greater than God .....are you sure this is Christianity

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:36 PM
Jesus is the Holy Spirit in the flesh. are you sure? that would mean that Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit and therefore two parts of The Trinity and that the Father is only one part that makes Jesus greater than The Father Again, Marry was conceived WITH the Holy Spirit, not BY the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God, the Father is God. They all make up one God. In Arabic, the word walad means "a physical boy born as a result of the marriage of a man and a woman. The Arabic word ibin, is the word used for son throughout the Arabic translation of the Bible in reference to Jesus' relationship with God. Ibin-Allah (Son of God) indicates a strong spiritual relationship between Jesus and God, a spiritual sonship in which Jesus was submissive and obedient to God as His Heavenly Father. dude which of those Satan Websites did you "google cut and paste" from.....but anyway it's simply just a sad attempt on your part to deflect from the statement you made............... you claimed That Jesus is both the son and the holy spirit....Jesus has two votes to God one vote.....you have made Jesus greater than God .....are you sure this is Christianity How does that in any way make Jesus greater then God?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:37 PM
He is the Holy Spirit in flesh. That is why Jesus could and did say "My father and I are one". you are trying to claim that Jesus is two of the three Gods of the Trinity.....isn't that blasphemy or something of the like

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:39 PM
He is the Holy Spirit in flesh. That is why Jesus could and did say "My father and I are one". you are trying to claim that Jesus is two of the three Gods of the Trinity.....isn't that blasphemy or something of the like Not blasphemy. The term "trinity" is not in the bible. That is a man made term that does not come from the scriptures.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 12/12/11 04:42 PM
He is the Holy Spirit in flesh. That is why Jesus could and did say "My father and I are one". you are trying to claim that Jesus is two of the three Gods of the Trinity.....isn't that blasphemy or something of the like Not blasphemy. The term "trinity" is not in the bible. That is a man made term that does not come from the scriptures. "Trinity" is a descriptive word made by man to give better understanding to the relation of the three. Only certain denominations even teach the "trinity". The trinity in itself is not a "Christian" belief as a whole.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:44 PM
How does that in any way make Jesus greater then God? jeez now I have to teach you Math too? ...ok no problem if it will keep you out of the lake of fire first of all Trinity means three Gods ok...now if Jesus is both the holy spirit and the son as you claim...that equals to two ....and plus one with the father god makes three gods ...that means that Jesus has more Gods than the father...which makes him greater Jesus + The Holy Spirit ----------------- 2 Gods The Father + 0 ----------- one God 2 gods is more than one God....therefore Jesus is greater than The Father

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 12/12/11 04:46 PM
He is the Holy Spirit in flesh. That is why Jesus could and did say "My father and I are one". you are trying to claim that Jesus is two of the three Gods of the Trinity.....isn't that blasphemy or something of the like Not blasphemy. The term "trinity" is not in the bible. That is a man made term that does not come from the scriptures. Cowboy....er....are you sure you're Christian?