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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Sun 12/04/11 10:40 AM


How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?




Gravitate on things that give you job. Hmmm. So people that find joy in killing others is doing God's will? Those that find joy in raping little girls is doing God's will? Those that find joy in stealing is doing God's will? Interesting, so EVERYONE is doing God's will regardless of what they are doing.


Why do you think of dark things? How can you imagine that there is joy in killing or raping?

You do not know joy.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:43 AM

If God loves someone and God lives in and through you, then you automatically also feel as God feels.

There are no commands.




Sure there are. There would have to be. As soon as God wants something, it creates a command. For if there was no command on it, how would one know if God wants it or not? Not saying it has to be necessarily verbal or written. Just somewhere God has to have a will to be known. And God's will given to us would then be a command for us to do or not do something. Regardless if one does it automatically or not, it is still there. You are just automatically doing the command given by God.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:43 AM




They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.




If God wants us to love someone, he has then told us to love someone or we would not know what he wants, if God has told us to love someone it is a commandment.

And told does not necessarily have to be verbally.



If your will is God's will and you realize God lives in and through you, it would be like "commanding" yourself to do something.

You don't do that do you? Do you command yourself to do things? No. You just do it naturally.




God does live in me/us

1 Corinthians 3:16

16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?



There you have it.

Now, realize it as truth. Reading scripture is one thing, realizing the truth of it is another.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:45 AM


If God loves someone and God lives in and through you, then you automatically also feel as God feels.

There are no commands.




Sure there are. There would have to be. As soon as God wants something, it creates a command. For if there was no command on it, how would one know if God wants it or not? Not saying it has to be necessarily verbal or written. Just somewhere God has to have a will to be known. And God's will given to us would then be a command for us to do or not do something. Regardless if one does it automatically or not, it is still there. You are just automatically doing the command given by God.


If you want to call it a command that is how you understand it.
But what it is, is a desire.

When God desires something, it is like a command.

When I desire something, it is also a command.

And the universe sends it to me.

That is what you call prayer.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:45 AM



How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?




Gravitate on things that give you job. Hmmm. So people that find joy in killing others is doing God's will? Those that find joy in raping little girls is doing God's will? Those that find joy in stealing is doing God's will? Interesting, so EVERYONE is doing God's will regardless of what they are doing.


Why do you think of dark things? How can you imagine that there is joy in killing or raping?

You do not know joy.


I personally do not find joy in such. But there are many people whom do and that is what I'm referring to. For if one did not find joy in it, why would they do it?

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Sun 12/04/11 10:48 AM




How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?




Gravitate on things that give you job. Hmmm. So people that find joy in killing others is doing God's will? Those that find joy in raping little girls is doing God's will? Those that find joy in stealing is doing God's will? Interesting, so EVERYONE is doing God's will regardless of what they are doing.


Why do you think of dark things? How can you imagine that there is joy in killing or raping?

You do not know joy.


I personally do not find joy in such. But there are many people whom do and that is what I'm referring to. For if one did not find joy in it, why would they do it?



I don't dwell on such darkness. I cannot tell you why.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:50 AM





How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?




Gravitate on things that give you job. Hmmm. So people that find joy in killing others is doing God's will? Those that find joy in raping little girls is doing God's will? Those that find joy in stealing is doing God's will? Interesting, so EVERYONE is doing God's will regardless of what they are doing.


Why do you think of dark things? How can you imagine that there is joy in killing or raping?

You do not know joy.


I personally do not find joy in such. But there are many people whom do and that is what I'm referring to. For if one did not find joy in it, why would they do it?



I don't dwell on such darkness. I cannot tell you why.




Point is if one thing is good for you why is it not good for another? Why you so special that God only speaks to you? If God speaks to you, then he would speak to everyone. If what brings you joy is specifically from God no matter what it is, then no matter what it is if it brings joy to another it has to be from God with what you're saying.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:52 AM
To dwell on darkness and think about such thinks is putting your attention on it. This attention perpetuates and creates it. It is a visualization or prayer. It is a subconscious command for this to exist.

Do not perpetuate things that do not bring you joy. Don't perpetuate the darkness. Go into the light and find good things.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:53 AM

They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.


Truly. flowers

The very idea that someone could be commanded to love others and also to love a God lest they be condemned to eternal damnation is indeed the most absurd idea ever created by mankind.

That would amount to nothing more than using hate tactics as a motivation to try to demand that some become a loving person. A total oxymoron to be sure.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:55 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/04/11 10:57 AM
Point is if one thing is good for you why is it not good for another? Why you so special that God only speaks to you? If God speaks to you, then he would speak to everyone. If what brings you joy is specifically from God no matter what it is, then no matter what it is if it brings joy to another it has to be from God with what you're saying.


God speaks to everyone and lives in all things.

You have only to place your attention on that, and nothing else and you will feel and hear and realize God.

Don't place your attention on the dark and ugly things of the world.

Don't wonder about them or fret over them or worry yourself about them.

Look where you are going, you are going towards God. Don't look behind you like Lot's wife did.








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Sun 12/04/11 10:56 AM

To dwell on darkness and think about such thinks is putting your attention on it. This attention perpetuates and creates it. It is a visualization or prayer. It is a subconscious command for this to exist.

Do not perpetuate things that do not bring you joy. Don't perpetuate the darkness. Go into the light and find good things.




Answer the question please. Unless you're proclaiming to be special and above all others that God only speaks to you. Who are you to make the judgement of God speaking directly to you giving the knowledge you need to make the right decisions on actions and not someone else as for instance killing someone, raping someone, ect. Why wouldn't God speak to everyone and not just you?

And you proclaim to always have been one with God. Why wouldn't everyone else then be one with God as well from birth just as you?

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Sun 12/04/11 10:59 AM


God speaks to everyone and lives in all things.

You have only to place your attention on that, and nothing else and you will feel and hear and realize God.

Don't place your attention on the dark and ugly things of the world.

Don't wonder about them or fret over them or worry yourself about them.

Look where you are going, you are going towards God. Don't look behind you like Lot's wife did.









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Sun 12/04/11 10:59 AM


They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.


Truly. flowers

The very idea that someone could be commanded to love others and also to love a God lest they be condemned to eternal damnation is indeed the most absurd idea ever created by mankind.

That would amount to nothing more than using hate tactics as a motivation to try to demand that some become a loving person. A total oxymoron to be sure.


Not loving God doesn't condemn anyone. Sin was condemned to the flesh. That is why we are to live by the word of God and not by the flesh. That is where the term born again comes in to play. We are all naturally born of flesh. It is up to that person's decision to be born of the spirit. This flesh is not eternal, it gets old, it dies. If one isn't born again in the spirit, they will then die in the flesh.

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Sun 12/04/11 11:00 AM
The darkness is behind us. Look where you are going. Look only to the light.

Do not dwell on bad things.

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Sun 12/04/11 11:01 AM

Point is if one thing is good for you why is it not good for another? Why you so special that God only speaks to you? If God speaks to you, then he would speak to everyone. If what brings you joy is specifically from God no matter what it is, then no matter what it is if it brings joy to another it has to be from God with what you're saying.


God speaks to everyone and lives in all things.

You have only to place your attention on that, and nothing else and you will feel and hear and realize God.

Don't place your attention on the dark and ugly things of the world.

Don't wonder about them or fret over them or worry yourself about them.

Look where you are going, you are going towards God. Don't look behind you like Lot's wife did.










Not worried about them or fret about them. Merely mentioned them for discussion purposes and the gaining of knowledge on the subject at hand to get a better understanding.

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Sun 12/04/11 11:02 AM

The darkness is behind us. Look where you are going. Look only to the light.

Do not dwell on bad things.


Again, not dwelling on the bad things. But they happen. So I ask, if your actions are one with God automatically from birth, why is not another's the same automatically from birth?

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Sun 12/04/11 11:04 AM


The darkness is behind us. Look where you are going. Look only to the light.

Do not dwell on bad things.


Again, not dwelling on the bad things. But they happen. So I ask, if your actions are one with God automatically from birth, why is not another's the same automatically from birth?



I said that God has always been within me but I did not say that I always REALIZED IT.


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Sun 12/04/11 11:09 AM



The darkness is behind us. Look where you are going. Look only to the light.

Do not dwell on bad things.


Again, not dwelling on the bad things. But they happen. So I ask, if your actions are one with God automatically from birth, why is not another's the same automatically from birth?



I said that God has always been within me but I did not say that I always REALIZED IT.




Not judging your relation with God. Your comment had almost nothing to do with my question. But there is a lot of evil things that happen in "gods" name. So what makes your natural knowledge more sincere then another's that do "evil" actions but in their eyes/views it is what God has told them to do.

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Sun 12/04/11 11:09 AM
Not worried about them or fret about them. Merely mentioned them for discussion purposes and the gaining of knowledge on the subject at hand to get a better understanding.


Good.

In this world there will always be darkness and war and bad things. If you enjoy that, then place your attention on that, resist that, fight against that, and that will be your world as long as you want.

And when you are tired of that, and finished with that, then place your attention on God and on good things, and on the light and the love and the things bring you true and lasting joy.




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Sun 12/04/11 11:11 AM

Not worried about them or fret about them. Merely mentioned them for discussion purposes and the gaining of knowledge on the subject at hand to get a better understanding.


Good.

In this world there will always be darkness and war and bad things. If you enjoy that, then place your attention on that, resist that, fight against that, and that will be your world as long as you want.

And when you are tired of that, and finished with that, then place your attention on God and on good things, and on the light and the love and the things bring you true and lasting joy.






My attention is entirely on God. That is why I spend my time on this forum. Satan caused me to end up in a wrech, so I have decided to take what Satan has done and turn it into something great, having the time to spread the word of God all day and night if needed.

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