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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Sun 12/04/11 10:04 AM


If one doesn't accept one as having authority over them, they will not obey. They will do as they wish. And there is a punishment for this both spiritual and secular depending on the "crime" at hand.



If my will is God's will, there is nothing to "obey."

If God does not force his will upon others, there is nothing to "obey."

There is no punishment, there is only the law of vibration.

Reap what you sow.


If your will is God's will, you are obeying.



no, because there are no commands.

But if that is the way you see it, fine.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:05 AM





IF I believe in God, and IF I feel that I know God's will, I might willingly be one with God.

But Morningsong is right when she says that one has to be willing.

Authority is a two way street. If I agree to the law, then I accept the authority of the people who enforce the law.

But I believe God wants us to willingly accept his will.

If his will is LOVE and the law of vibration then we are on the same page.

My will is God's will.







But I believe God wants us to willingly accept his will.


He does. He doesn't "force" anyone to obey him. Only punishment for not doing as such, but it is still your choice. You reap what you sow so to speak.




God does not punish anyone.

But yes you reap what you sow, that is the law of cause and effect. That is, you punish yourself.




True, God doesn't specifically "punish" anyone. He just doesn't reward them for their action(s) eg., the punishment. The punishment is the lacking of reward.

And no "reward" doesn't have to be something shiny and sparkly. Reward = outcome of an action(s).

If someone robs a bank and gets caught, their reward would be prison time ect.


There are only results. There is no reward or punishment.

Whether something is a reward or a punishment is all in the attitude. I knew a guy who robbed a bank just because he wanted to get put back into prison.

He got what he wanted. It was the result.




We're saying the same thing then cause result = reward.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:06 AM



If one doesn't accept one as having authority over them, they will not obey. They will do as they wish. And there is a punishment for this both spiritual and secular depending on the "crime" at hand.



If my will is God's will, there is nothing to "obey."

If God does not force his will upon others, there is nothing to "obey."

There is no punishment, there is only the law of vibration.

Reap what you sow.


If your will is God's will, you are obeying.



no, because there are no commands.

But if that is the way you see it, fine.




If there are no commands, then how can your will be one with God's will. Cause if there is no commands, there is no will.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:08 AM




If one doesn't accept one as having authority over them, they will not obey. They will do as they wish. And there is a punishment for this both spiritual and secular depending on the "crime" at hand.



If my will is God's will, there is nothing to "obey."

If God does not force his will upon others, there is nothing to "obey."

There is no punishment, there is only the law of vibration.

Reap what you sow.


If your will is God's will, you are obeying.



no, because there are no commands.

But if that is the way you see it, fine.




If there are no commands, then how can your will be one with God's will. Cause if there is no commands, there is no will.


That makes no sense.

There are NO COMMANDS.

Both me and God do as we please.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:11 AM





If one doesn't accept one as having authority over them, they will not obey. They will do as they wish. And there is a punishment for this both spiritual and secular depending on the "crime" at hand.



If my will is God's will, there is nothing to "obey."

If God does not force his will upon others, there is nothing to "obey."

There is no punishment, there is only the law of vibration.

Reap what you sow.


If your will is God's will, you are obeying.



no, because there are no commands.

But if that is the way you see it, fine.




If there are no commands, then how can your will be one with God's will. Cause if there is no commands, there is no will.


That makes no sense.

There are NO COMMANDS.

Both me and God do as we please.




How do you know you do as God pleases if he has not told you as such? How did YOU become one with God if not being one through your actions? And if you are one through your actions, how do you know that is what God's will is?

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Sun 12/04/11 10:13 AM





If one doesn't accept one as having authority over them, they will not obey. They will do as they wish. And there is a punishment for this both spiritual and secular depending on the "crime" at hand.



If my will is God's will, there is nothing to "obey."

If God does not force his will upon others, there is nothing to "obey."

There is no punishment, there is only the law of vibration.

Reap what you sow.


If your will is God's will, you are obeying.



no, because there are no commands.

But if that is the way you see it, fine.




If there are no commands, then how can your will be one with God's will. Cause if there is no commands, there is no will.


That makes no sense.

There are NO COMMANDS.

Both me and God do as we please.




And even further then my last post, a will is something one wishes to happen. And speaking of God, God's will is something God wishes for us to do or not do. If God wishes for us to do something or not do something, then it is then a command not to do or to do.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:15 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/04/11 10:16 AM
How do you know you do as God pleases if he has not told you as such?


I said that both me and God do as we please.

God lives in and through me.

How did YOU become one with God if not being one through your actions?


I have always been one with God.

And if you are one through your actions, how do you know that is what God's will is?


Because God lives in and through me.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:18 AM

How do you know you do as God pleases if he has not told you as such?


I said that both me and God do as we please.

God lives in and through me.

How did YOU become one with God if not being one through your actions?


I have always been one with God.

And if you are one through your actions, how do you know that is what God's will is?


Because God lives in and through me.




Then why doesn't God automatically live in and through other people of this world automatically as well? If God lives in and through everyone, why are some people murderers, rapers, ect? Why do people then do immoral actions?

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Sun 12/04/11 10:18 AM
And even further then my last post, a will is something one wishes to happen.


That is not what the will is. I do not accept your premise.

And speaking of God, God's will is something God wishes for us to do or not do. If God wishes for us to do something or not do something, then it is then a command not to do or to do.


That is not what God's will is.





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Sun 12/04/11 10:20 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/04/11 10:21 AM


How do you know you do as God pleases if he has not told you as such?


I said that both me and God do as we please.

God lives in and through me.

How did YOU become one with God if not being one through your actions?


I have always been one with God.

And if you are one through your actions, how do you know that is what God's will is?


Because God lives in and through me.




Then why doesn't God automatically live in and through other people of this world automatically as well? If God lives in and through everyone, why are some people murderers, rapers, ect? Why do people then do immoral actions?


Because they do not realize that God is in them. They are not God realized. They do not feel God in them. They do not know.

Forgive them they do not know God.











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Sun 12/04/11 10:21 AM

And even further then my last post, a will is something one wishes to happen.


That is not what the will is. I do not accept your premise.

And speaking of God, God's will is something God wishes for us to do or not do. If God wishes for us to do something or not do something, then it is then a command not to do or to do.


That is not what God's will is.







Ok, if that is not what God's will is. What then is God's will. Just in general, what then is God's will if it is not something God wishes for us to do or not do.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:23 AM


And even further then my last post, a will is something one wishes to happen.


That is not what the will is. I do not accept your premise.

And speaking of God, God's will is something God wishes for us to do or not do. If God wishes for us to do something or not do something, then it is then a command not to do or to do.


That is not what God's will is.







Ok, if that is not what God's will is. What then is God's will. Just in general, what then is God's will if it is not something God wishes for us to do or not do.



Let God live in you and you will know. God wants joy, happiness, love, freedom for you and for himself.









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Sun 12/04/11 10:27 AM



And even further then my last post, a will is something one wishes to happen.


That is not what the will is. I do not accept your premise.

And speaking of God, God's will is something God wishes for us to do or not do. If God wishes for us to do something or not do something, then it is then a command not to do or to do.


That is not what God's will is.







Ok, if that is not what God's will is. What then is God's will. Just in general, what then is God's will if it is not something God wishes for us to do or not do.



Let God live in you and you will know. God wants joy, happiness, love, freedom for you and for himself.











I ment how is one to achieve that. God wants us to love? That's a commandment then to love everyone, it is God's desire for us to love one another, so again it therefore is a commandment to love one another.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:29 AM
They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:33 AM
How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?


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Sun 12/04/11 10:35 AM

They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.




If God wants us to love someone, he has then told us to love someone or we would not know what he wants, if God has told us to love someone it is a commandment.

And told does not necessarily have to be verbally.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:37 AM


They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.




If God wants us to love someone, he has then told us to love someone or we would not know what he wants, if God has told us to love someone it is a commandment.

And told does not necessarily have to be verbally.



If your will is God's will and you realize God lives in and through you, it would be like "commanding" yourself to do something.

You don't do that do you? Do you command yourself to do things? No. You just do it naturally.


CowboyGH's photo
Sun 12/04/11 10:37 AM

How does one achieve God realization?

How does one realize anything?

First, surrender and breathe. Gravitate to things that give you joy. Love someone. If you believe in God, believe that God lives. How does God live if not in all things?




Gravitate on things that give you job. Hmmm. So people that find joy in killing others is doing God's will? Those that find joy in raping little girls is doing God's will? Those that find joy in stealing is doing God's will? Interesting, so EVERYONE is doing God's will regardless of what they are doing.

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Sun 12/04/11 10:38 AM
If God loves someone and God lives in and through you, then you automatically also feel as God feels.

There are no commands.


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Sun 12/04/11 10:39 AM



They are not commandments cowboy. You cannot command someone to love someone else. It does not work that way.




If God wants us to love someone, he has then told us to love someone or we would not know what he wants, if God has told us to love someone it is a commandment.

And told does not necessarily have to be verbally.



If your will is God's will and you realize God lives in and through you, it would be like "commanding" yourself to do something.

You don't do that do you? Do you command yourself to do things? No. You just do it naturally.




God does live in me/us

1 Corinthians 3:16

16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

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