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I speak only my current understanding of how things may have been created in succession through all of the hosts of spiritual beings under the one source who became the creators of many of the lower worlds, including ours.
This is my understanding, and this makes sense to me. It is not intended as "warfare to deepen strife and discredit any affirmations of one Wouldee" whose faith is, I'm sure well grounded and unbreakable. I have no ill feelings against any earthly religion ~as long as I am not required by law to bend to their will or worship their doctrine. (Which thankfully I am not.) I have no hatred for you, Wouldee, or for anyone. I am only talking to myself and sharing my vision of the nature of reality and my personal current concept of God. It is only one point of view, not meant to cause strife. And why would it? Keep your faith. As long as you follow the law of love, it does not matter what anyone believes or imagines. JB |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Fri 03/14/08 11:26 PM
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Its all good
I never implied that to mean that you intend harm. nor that your judgement is not respected as your sincerest. My point was made in the passion of the discourse that followed. Compelling, isn't it though? The common ground is here to see, but the universal appeal is not. That is what makes life messy, but also a trial. And none should look lightly at any assumption or rejection. All things deserve contemplation on the merits that words only clumsily convey in print or in tongue. No conclusion can be drawn where there is no consensus nor universal congruence. That is the beauty of debate. |
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Sight is a gift.
In-sight is a talent. To look within and see...is an artform almost lost in the times of this day we live in. To question everything, and to be raw in one's honesty, and to be 'the observor' ever vigilant, is to live authentically... in my way of reckoning. But then what would I know? Half the time I think I am posting to the wind... 
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so...sight and insight from whence they come? oh i see you there. no hiding from meeee.... perhaps we are all posting to the wind. yet how better to sow these tiny seeds far and wide? 
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Edited by
Jess642
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Sat 03/15/08 03:56 AM
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so...sight and insight from whence they come? oh i see you there. no hiding from meeee.... perhaps we are all posting to the wind. yet how better to sow these tiny seeds far and wide?
Sight...? The vision thing? The look through the windows of the soul, and see what we are programmed to see, kind of sight? From a tiny baby we are told what we see and given appropriate labels for the things we see, and if not, if no reference point, eventually, we dont see them anymore. We are taught what to see and what to call it....none of it instinctual. Insight... the instinctual vision...when using weypoints, reference points, to asses the inner wisdom...and dropping the reference points which are not authentic to the instinctual wisdom. An example... all my life taught the seperation of genders...reinforced, until it is feasible to 'see' that as a truth... and to create it. However, instinctually, I 'see' no gender, only souls, spirit... no seperation... that is insight... From whence it came??? one externally... the other internally. |
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~ Soul Rain ~ Postin’ in the wind we’re postin’ in the wind typing in the thoughts we have that we cannot rescind Everybody reads them but few ingest their wroth they’ve been programmed mindless robots since the moment of their birth Boys and girls kept separate and taught to be their gender will they ever come to know the true nature of their splendor? Individuality created by illusion to become a great society that’s blinded by confusion Point the fingers here! Point the fingers there! Someone has to take the blame for all of this despair It often makes me ponder Does it really matter? Are human souls like raindrops? pitter patter pitter patter pitter patter
Abra (3/15/08) (inspired by Jess Lee) |
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I have always been intrigued by how and why people express themselves. The reflection of that which lives within each of us is quite openly displayed, as it flows through ourselves. As one grows throughout their life, this growth is evident upon so many different levels. There is much to be shown within ones own understanding(s). What one accepts as truth will forever shape that which is perceived after the acceptance. Perception equates to that which has been accepted as truth within each of us. I wonder then... What do we truly see? Is it just that which we have known? That which we have sub-consciously accepted as good reason for an implied conclusion of that which is witnessed... once again? It is the once again part that is compelling... Usually there are no two situations that are truly alike in every way. However, when one witnesses a familar thing, where then, does the understanding come from? From that which had already been experienced, or from approaching this seemingly familiar experience from a non-conclusive mind-set. Should it be the former, how reliable would such an internal comparison be? How complete then, would the correlation become? How much of what was then would be perceived, mistakenly so, as what is being experienced now? Perplexing it would be, should one continue to view this world with only the experience required to assess that original situation. How much could one miss out on by simply failing to see that which is being shown, as a result of misconstruing it for that which had been? Most importantly... where is the line drawn? how to excape looking out the window of the mind thru past, and therefore chasing the tail rationalization that never finds solutions.....do i read properly, lol....seems to me the first flaw in perecption is to think that there is not one truth.....the body of each is built the same....the body is built only ONE way.....all bodies work for both good and bad....eat & crap....drink & pea......seems the mind be the same and need to expell what is not truth, and how can this happen if it is not seen first that there be only one truth.....keep the **** in we die, and relieve not the urine we are poisoned by our own intake.....solutions are found when not seen thru good and bad, and then full color is availabe to see.....just makes sense to me....seems all principles are the same from the body, to nature, to earths, galaxies....truth can be the only serum to effect change, and do gooding is preached from every human to another, from each nation to nation, as we all just wanna be loved so bad we see not it steal all from us us, and keep us not seeing that love and fear are the root emotions which make good and bad perception, and they must be seen as equal to disappear....and what be at the bottom of every being without these two root motivaters controlling any longer is not love, but peace.........solutions. all beings are prefectly harmless in root form, just as when got here. |
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Sight is a gift. In-sight is a talent. To look within and see...is an artform almost lost in the times of this day we live in. To question everything, and to be raw in one's honesty, and to be 'the observor' ever vigilant, is to live authentically... in my way of reckoning. But then what would I know? Half the time I think I am posting to the wind...
to post to the wind makes storms in the mind which cause tornadoes to ignite the heart for truth to be uncovered. |
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Casting seeds.... blowing away untruths,
Raining souls... A veritable feast of nature. Does anyone else get lost in it? Know intrinsically, that which is appropriate to the Who of themselves? However when trying to define that 'knowing' into language, words, terms, phrases, find it almost indefinable? |
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Edited by
davidben1
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Sat 03/15/08 05:16 AM
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Casting seeds.... blowing away untruths, Raining souls... A veritable feast of nature. Does anyone else get lost in it? Know intrinsically, that which is appropriate to the Who of themselves? However when trying to define that 'knowing' into language, words, terms, phrases, find it almost indefinable? if all bodies are built the same, then the natural state of beings of each HAS to be the same....peace....there has to be a veil keeping unseen.....good and bad....all is good....then what is not profitable for all will be changed naturally in each.....simply by default by removing the program that drive the computor |
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Edited by
Jess642
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Sat 03/15/08 05:21 AM
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So david, you speak of body....
I dont... it is just a thing... that this spirit lugs around... its a suitcase, for the Who of me. Body is not relevant, to me... it's a nothing... I prefer the non concrete to the concrete.. As to peace...yes. Take away the 'who i think I am', 'who i want to be seen as', the ego, as I refer to it... and yes, there is the authentic who of someone... the soul... bare and obvious. |
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So david, you speak of body.... I dont... it is just a thing... that this spirit lugs around... its a suitcase, for the Who of me. Body is not relevant, to me... it's a nothing... I prefer the non concrete to the concrete.. As to peace...yes. Take away the 'who i think I am', 'who i want to be seen as', the ego, as I refer to it... and yes, there is the authentic who of someone... the soul... bare and ovious. a agree it is just a body, the fact that they are all the same shows major ****! yes....take away the ego...you said it....and good and bad perception make and build the ego....take away the ego what do we have....peace! |
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Yes.
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Edited by
davidben1
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Sat 03/15/08 05:57 AM
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Yes.
if you say yes, and i say yes, than no amount of no's can equal, as a no is a negative energy that has no power by itself, so yes's power all and why somehow, someway, humanity has got to be brought to YES in unity....the more that agree in one simple truth the power be expidential, and not 1+1=2, but rather to count as 3 6 12 24 48 96....so why truth has power in small numbers as all down thru history, as the truth is 3 things combined....cause and effect and PURPOSE, and why 3 be the universal number of completion....past, present, future...good, bad, the ugly, lol.....the correlations are too many to be unbroken so far to me....beginning, middle, end, father, son, holy ghost......short, average, tall.....any total truth can be shown to go to infintiy and the logic behind never broken, and why the mind need connected to sub-mind to make truth....how can the subconscious be unleashed telling many things to complete us if we see them as bad thoughts.....or NO....conscious, subconscious = total awareness.....full understanding of all that the mind had hidden......the two were always meant to speak back and forth without good and bad until truth be found, and all truth answers are peaceful ones |
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Edited by
Jess642
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Sat 03/15/08 06:04 AM
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A wise man once said............ 'Be the change you want to see in the world'.....Gandhi.
He is onto something.... and no.... I dont have his number...
Apologies david.... it's 11.00pm here, and I am wiped... i may have more to add tomorrow evening... 
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A wise man once said............ 'Be the change you want to see in the world'.....Gandhi. He is onto something.... and no.... I dont have his number...
Apologies david.... it's 11.00pm here, and I am wiped... i may have more to add tomorrow evening...
ur the best and nite nite.....to bad he didn't tell us WHAT to change, as he spoke always in responding to actions, which is to focus on symtoms.....so all are wise each in their day to make the next day, but as time proceed, so does wisdom.....i am saying only what to me be the problem, that will take many to change each ourselves to be united together....so is not unity in agreement of what truth be needed to make the first change needed for any accomplishment.....agreement, or failure is destined from the inception |
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Edited by
Thomas27
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Sat 03/15/08 08:42 AM
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I have always been intrigued by how and why people express themselves. The reflection of that which lives within each of us is quite openly displayed, as it flows through ourselves. As one grows throughout their life, this growth is evident upon so many different levels. There is much to be shown within ones own understanding(s). What one accepts as truth will forever shape that which is perceived after the acceptance. Perception equates to that which has been accepted as truth within each of us. I wonder then... What do we truly see? Is it just that which we have known? That which we have sub-consciously accepted as good reason for an implied conclusion of that which is witnessed... once again? It is the once again part that is compelling... Usually there are no two situations that are truly alike in every way. However, when one witnesses a familar thing, where then, does the understanding come from? From that which had already been experienced, or from approaching this seemingly familiar experience from a non-conclusive mind-set. Should it be the former, how reliable would such an internal comparison be? How complete then, would the correlation become? How much of what was then would be perceived, mistakenly so, as what is being experienced now? Perplexing it would be, should one continue to view this world with only the experience required to assess that original situation. How much could one miss out on by simply failing to see that which is being shown, as a result of misconstruing it for that which had been? Most importantly... where is the line drawn? This sounds like your describing someone that has tunnel-vision verses someone that is open-minded. Some cannot see that which is being shown, because they are blinded by their tunnel-vision. While others can't stand on their own two feet, because they are too open-minded and change like the wheather. One should be open-minded, but stand firm own his own to feet. In this case, the more we learn, the more we will realize how little we do know. Someone with tunnel-vision already knows it all and someone that is too open-minded probably knows nothing. "To Thine Own Self Be True", That is where the line should be drawn. For me anyways. |
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What a fantastic display of influencial proportion.
I want to personally thank each and every one who has entertained this notion. The depth of one's understanding of a new experience reflects the value one has placed upon that which has been previously understood. Value is placed by confirmation, which is determined through our perception according to what one has accepted as truth. Confirmation is always a negotiation of perception. Experience determines what is being negotiated, perception wills how. Accepted truthes define the measure of value by which one's perceptive faculty weighs experience. Perception is will... and it is not free from it's dependancy upon confirmation. How one perceives an experience wills the placement of value upon such an experience. Knowing why removes the worldly fingerprint placed upon each and every one of us. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 03/15/08 11:29 AM
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So david, you speak of body.... I dont... it is just a thing... that this spirit lugs around... its a suitcase, for the Who of me. Body is not relevant, to me... it's a nothing... I prefer the non concrete to the concrete.. As to peace...yes. Take away the 'who i think I am', 'who i want to be seen as', the ego, as I refer to it... and yes, there is the authentic who of someone... the soul... bare and obvious. The body is not nothing. It is certainly not everything, but it is not nothing. It is a wondrous machine, created so that spirit may live life and feel emotions and sense others in a wondrous reality. The body cannot contain the whole of spirit, but it is every bit a part of us as anything else. Respect and care for it, as it is your home, your temple, as holy as any other part of all that is. JB |
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