Topic: The development of our sight...
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Tue 03/18/08 01:40 PM

****In my best Terminator voice...laugh ****

"I'll be back... "

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creativesoul's photo
Tue 03/18/08 04:24 PM
Hiya Di...

flowerforyou

Oh dear, did I make it sound as if I thought one's acceptances equated to what actually is or was...laugh

I absolutely agree with your notion expressed in the beginning of your post... ya shoulda known that girl!!! :wink:

Remember the dynamic internal review which I call maturity?

This is just another aspect of the same notion, really. Of course, results will vary depending on many other things, also, not the least of which is what one has internalized, and how deeply...

An evolution of truth...laugh

It is well documented that should a lie be told enough times, the teller begins to lose sight of what was the truth, and the lie becomes it's replacement... used as such... believed as such... built upon as such... noway

Fascinating how some people can live this lie, yet to them it would be no such thing... to them, it would be the truth... and completely treated as such. Wow!

How are ya?

You sure asked me a bunch of questions...:wink: I will answer them individiually later... wissssssss me ego intact... laugh




Ah James...

Such the master with an expressional cadence...

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Symbelmyne:

Yup, I hear ya... it is all circular and self-supporting, is it not?

What is perceived as real is real in it's affects.

One's perception equates one's reality to one's self...



Thomas:

Not that I actually disagree with what you have written, but actual reality and one's perceived reality are, I would venture to say, two different things...

We all live life according to our perceived reality...



Jeannie:

flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou



wouldee:

One other thing I wanted to mention regarding your last post... If I am not mistaken, motor skill function, memory, and/or perceptive faculty(cognitive function) are different animals housed in the same cage... 'er 'sumpin like 'at... :wink:



Lee:

Hiya young-un... How you be? bigsmile

We see quite similarly, as you well know... flowerforyou

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 03/18/08 04:35 PM
Hi back atycha, Creative. Yea, I shoulda known! Actually I think I did, I just like "practicing" stuff I've learned, Mid-term this week, donchya know? laugh

Hi everyone! No time to play tonight, gotta study.
Good evening to you all.drinker

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Tue 03/18/08 05:38 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Tue 03/18/08 05:41 PM
Ok Di...laugh Here goes...

Can any of us REALLY imagine, truly understand, how small a single life is, compared to all of time and space?


That notion is definitely too belittling a concept to behold... laugh


So is it the egos’ inability to accept its conditional existence that prevents us from embracing the idea that “life goes on”, not just merely beyond our senses, but beyond or knowing; our existence?


I suppose one's ego would have to have some validation and/or self-substantiated existance perpetuated by the notion of a higher individual purpose.

What if one completely accepts not knowing?

Could it, then, be the reflection of the egos’ inability, to accept its demise, that leads humans to believe they can, will, and must exist, beyond the physical?


Ego needs external validation, a sense of usefulness and importance, on an individual basis... ego individually separates with an internalized perceptional acuity...


Is the egos’ suggestion so strongly placed, that the mind will go to creative extremes to give what the ego requires?


I would think that this would need consideration on a case by case basis...

The measure of one's humility may be a key...



But could we function as a civil society if the demands of the ego were not met?


We have been, they are never truly met... are they? laugh



What happens to the ego and the individual who gives the ego what it wants? Does the satiated ego, extend a sense of wellbeing to the individual, creating a reason to continue the façade of the belief they embrace?


Separate will always be such, and reinforced with the same measures...



What happens to the ego and the individual when the ego is denied the significant mark of its superior being and denied its need to be eternal? Will the mind that refuses to wallow in the plausible theories of eternal beliefs, not find comfort? Or will that mind understand and embrace the idea that “life goes on” and as such, wouldn’t it be a comfort to know that the space left behind will, in some fashion, remain?


That question is completely contingient, I would think, upon one's own perception of reality...



What does it matter how that comfort in life is achieved, as long as, the goal of at the end of that life, leaves nothing behind but kind memories or historical goodness?


That all would depend on what one believes...

For those who believe that there is some reward for being 'good', and punishment for those who refuse to equate 'good' to the belief structure... then it matters most, I would think...

It would all depend upon one's placement of value into this life... more importantly, the purpose of it...

flowerforyou

Whew!

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Be well my friend...

Til next time...





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Tue 03/18/08 08:47 PM

Lee:

Hiya young-un... How you be? bigsmile

We see quite similarly, as you well know... flowerforyou



Hello Michael...

I be well... and embracing this mild weather, out in the yard, gardening, rockwalling, creating, building, allowing....enjoying..

I have saltwater withdrawals...which makes the desire all the sweeter...(ear infection, and burst eardrum)...ohwell

And attempting and failing dismally, patiently awaiting Karma's arrival...grumble

I am like a small child zooming between the calendar, and being in Now...:wink: laugh

flowerforyou :heart:

ArtGurl's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:54 PM

I have saltwater withdrawals...which makes the desire all the sweeter...(ear infection, and burst eardrum)...ohwell


frown :heart: flowerforyou



And attempting and failing dismally, patiently awaiting Karma's arrival...grumble

I am like a small child zooming between the calendar, and being in Now...:wink: laugh




I have NO idea what that feels like at all!!!!!! :wink: laugh

Soon sistah ...he'll be there soon! :heart:

Jess642's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:59 PM
grumble 30 days, and six and a half hours......

I am soooo not good at this patience thing...:wink: :heart: flowerforyou

ArtGurl's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:07 PM

grumble 30 days, and six and a half hours......

I am soooo not good at this patience thing...:wink: :heart: flowerforyou



patience? isn't that a flower? laugh

It's all relative girlfriend ... I'd like 30 days right about now ... just breathe .... or the anticipation will blow a gasket ... laugh :heart: flowerforyou


Jess642's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:09 PM


grumble 30 days, and six and a half hours......

I am soooo not good at this patience thing...:wink: :heart: flowerforyou



patience? isn't that a flower? laugh

It's all relative girlfriend ... I'd like 30 days right about now ... just breathe .... or the anticipation will blow a gasket ... laugh :heart: flowerforyou





laugh laugh Like an eardrum? :wink: laugh laugh

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Tue 03/18/08 09:15 PM



laugh laugh Like an eardrum? :wink: laugh laugh


Sorry to hear that flowerforyou

Soooooow what don't ya wanna hear? :wink:

karmafury's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:16 PM
30 days 19 hours 12 min.

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Jess642's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:18 PM




laugh laugh Like an eardrum? :wink: laugh laugh


Sorry to hear that flowerforyou

Soooooow what don't ya wanna hear? :wink:



laugh laugh What Karma just said...laugh :wink:

ArtGurl's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:27 PM





laugh laugh Like an eardrum? :wink: laugh laugh


Sorry to hear that flowerforyou

Soooooow what don't ya wanna hear? :wink:



laugh laugh What Karma just said...laugh :wink:


I know!!!!!! laugh

Hugs to you both ... and my wishes for a speedy 30 days ....


uhhhh if time is relative .... and everything is now ... then in theory .... oh nevermind ...it's 30 days ... grumble

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 03/18/08 10:06 PM
Every time I see Jess Lee
it causes me such pain
I feel like I’m a hound dog
that’s been abandoned in the rain

The forums can’t assist us
cause we live so far away
everything reduces
to a meaningless cliché
what’s a man to do who’s in love with you?
but isn’t there in person
to follow through

I can’t whisper in your ear
the sweet silence of my wheeze
as I fight against my asthma
passing out upon my knees
our physical appearances
may be but an illusion
but surely all these illnesses
are more than just delusion

Will we ever know a life
that’s free from tonsillitis?
A spirit world where every heart
will have the touch of Midas

Frustrations grow among the great Impatiens
and patience dies with every passing day
what once was then
will now be when
and when it’s dead and gone
yesterday will swallow it
with her ancient primal yawn

Shoo bee doo bee doo
I’d sing this song for you
but my breath is weak
your hearing’s bleak
this verse will have to do

flowerforyou

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Tue 03/18/08 10:34 PM
Abra.... you need to get your Poetry Published!!!

Everything you Write is FAB!!!!flowerforyou

I noticed You can start and finish a poem in a split second ....and it comes out so darn hilariously funny toolaugh laugh laugh

You are most definitely gifted!! :smile: flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 03/18/08 11:42 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 03/18/08 11:43 PM
Everything I write is inspired from without
without a doubt there’s nothing deep within

The words that flow upon the page are but symbols of my thoughts
I have no clue how they imbue the gist of all my plots

They dribble from my fingertips like loquacious verbose rain
flowing into cyberspace like water down a drain

Arid eyes receive them and soak them up like blood
telling me my poetry reminds them of a flood

I never save a thing I write
it’s all just words to me
conversations in the night
cerebral potpourri

flowerforyou

Jess642's photo
Wed 03/19/08 02:08 AM
If my eyes could hear the words
you sing
my ears would get a rest.

Surfing would be easy,
listening
at it's the best.

The words they wander
to and fro,
they roll and romp about.


Somewhere in the midst
of this
Sherrie had to shout.

Karma told us all
how long,
how near and just how far.

James meandered through
the thread
Wishing on a star.

Michael gives the gift
of sight,
a place that we can play.

I don't know about
the rest of you
but I intend to stay.


flowerforyou :heart:










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Wed 03/19/08 03:46 AM
Mind, ego.......what can eliminate these and give a bigger view except the reality that everything that is said or happen is true, and the vision to see how all is true be unlocked from within the bowels of our subconscious, and how can this be less the conscious mind be denounced, as the barrier that keep the mind as covered with a wet blanket, and from all the joy of knowing each second the good that come from the purpose that all things together create.....

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 03/19/08 10:49 AM
Edited by Abracadabra on Wed 03/19/08 10:51 AM
My ego’s in my mind
my spirit left behind
my insight’s in my hindsight
and must somehow be refined

The sages preach enlightenment
and detachment from our form
Creative says insightenment
is the way to lose the norm

Don’t lose yourself in prejudice
of experience bygone
become attuned to harmonies
within your current song

Nature’s way is vibrant
her only constant change
to live in preconceptions
will disintegrate her range

With open eyes we look around
with open minds we ponder
and when we think we have it all
it’s really over yonder

flowerforyou

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Wed 03/19/08 12:42 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/19/08 12:43 PM
I picture Abra with a black tea-shirt and a French beret sitting in a dark beat-nick bar with a pair of bongo drums singing poetry and drinking cocktails... a bar fly sitting with her legs crossed and heavy eye make-up, a couple listening to the poetry, a drunk passed out in a table in the corner, the bartender is wiping the bar with a rag.. ... its getting close to closing time....