James... you have been around the blame game for far too long...



Don't get the cart ahead of the horse there, young man...

No expectations...

Ok Davidben, you make a good point.

If she falls for me and all I was doing was being honest then it was meant to be.

And that's all there is to say about that.

I grew up in a finger-pointing culture.

Whadda you expect?

I've been trying to point out how this type of philosophy has ruined my entire life. Here I am at 59 years old and I'm only just now trying to recover from this utter stupidity.

When one knows better, one does better...

Now... quit blamin' James...

Be you... it is enough...

It must be my fault.

Or is it your fault?


Maybe it's someone else's fault?


Bahahahahahaa!!!


There is no FAULT, no blame....

it just was.


it's not Now, that was a whole second ago....

see?



"I once was blind, but now I see....."

blind....a time release veil that guide us to our destiny, and keep us within our destiny each day, and from pain that we know not we avoided......smiles

You know, I keep thinking of this thread, as I go about my day, I love the way certain conversations spark thought.....


I was thinking of all the terms we use, attached to sight....


crazy stuff...

preview,
review,
rearview...

We ask if we can have a look at something, and stick out our hand....

What is that about?


Is it that eyes are not the only form of vision?

Do hands see as much as eyes?


I love this thread Michael....

it has me challenged, in a way I haven't been for quite a while.

for every word spoken in the human language that is percieved to be negative, hide all the unknown truths that the mind has never contemplated.........

David, I must be missing a gene or something....

I find it a challenge to see the negative... I can hear it at times, as being the intent, of the other, but then my defiance disorder arrives, and I create a positive, a truth, from it...


or just get a case of the giggles..

Lee...



Sight...

It is all of that which we know, which is of good source,...

We hear, see, feel, touch, taste, smell, sense... and love...

That which we find upon walking into ourself...

Sight...

Clear...

Peaceful...

The removal of the worldly fingerprint which is upon us all, incorruptably so, as long as one views it through itself...

there only be ONE source for all and everything, whole truth, as all lies came first from a truth, that be twisted or incomplete, so the lie must first be believed to get the first half, then the whole understanding of the truth can be added to it......for one to add 2+2 and say the answer be eight, one that help must first see how the 8 was shaped in the mind of the other, or true, and it not be based on the PAST of the one that help, as their mind is THEIR experience, and will just say wrong to the other based their minds eye, and how to then do it correct, but not show how the one came to think incomplete, so it be not repeated with other things........why all that happen and is said must be seen true first, THEN full understaning of the purpose of any lie or half-truth is seen, and the only way to envoke not correctness but true erasure of incomplete methods in another, as right and wrong be mind wisdom, and truth and untruth be mind wisdom that lead all down a path of destruction, and why peace cannot be found like this......
and has eluded all since forever.

yes, this is not the natural logic of the mind when born, and why wisdom cannot be had less one renounce the minds version of logic as incomplete, and of course since human logic base it's self worth on it's own power of choice in good and bad, and accomplishment, a whole logic never be sought until one comes to a place where all that was sought is had, and no more satisfaction of attainment be left without something more, and no mind answers are left to draw upon, and then one turn to themself as the culprit, and whole logic can be opened up, and provide a new way and new days are created not based on past or mind, but by whole logic that cannot fail, as it can see everything around itself without looking thru its own eyes, it's past, but now thru the eyes of all others, even thru the eyes of an animal, insect, or even a tree.......everything has energy that every being can connect to......to feel ALL that happen in full effect.....to see not in black and white as good and bad does, but rather thru full color.......evil is only created by beings that do not understand their own minds wisdom, and that is the only evil energy or source that exist.

point in case......

a new real study just out show the pleasure sensors in the mind are activated to a higher level and fire longer when chocolate is eaten, than when one kiss a memeber of the opposite sex........mine do not act in this way, but until i accepted that what they found in the study was indeed TRUE, could i find within myself the reason it held untrue for me and the rest of the logic the researchers did not see and why they broadcast a half-truth.........

3000 elephants broke chains wore every day and escaped the recent sunami in thailand when thousands of human lives were lost......why.....to discount because it is not understood as just meaningless data keep ones own mind closed to the senses we have in us that FAR out perform that of animals.......for every sense that animals have we have the same and many times more advanced, and the only reason they are/have not been available was the mind has been closed off to it's bigger percentage.........until the experience of man as a whole was enough that when minds be unlocked, full understanding could be achieved.....wisdom to create with no thought of itself as the center of purpose, as each is born with themselves as the center of their prupose.

all around us are ones as signs, and each have gifts different than another, be it karate for one, music for another, magic for one, super memory for another, dancing for some, amazing computation for another, psychic abilities for another.....all these gifts combined together are what each being is capable of when the minds logic be denounced.......and the subconscious be opened to hear all the things it need to hear to make one see and then believe they exist first, than they are actually explained each one, and learning with the coinscious and subconscious combined be almost intantly, not the same mistake over and over and over as mankind has always done.......one then sees why the young kids are acting as they do, and know not the reason themselves, and why the urge is so strong in them to perform insane acts that would even harm and kill themselves, without enough sense to know better, the mind would say.....idiots i have heard, but who would really believe the real reason they do them.......

for every bad or harmful thing one see there is a pure unknown motive the conscious mind cannot EVER see.........we are in the days of total understanding and abilities never before seen in history, and the last to taste of such will be those that rely and hold tightest to their own goodness and rightness, as religion to save themselves from themselves, and rationalize all behavior by good and bad........the future and past purpose together is not even imaginable to the mind that rationalize from past experience, as these things have no past but a only small preview to draw upon..........we shall as a people eradicate murder, rape, incest, drugs, and violence of any sort from the human race ourselves, the first work the human race does as a whole together and as a family as one.....it has all been spoken already by each ancient civilization, and by EVERY religion, but all words said were seen thru good and bad, and so the minds of men interpreted words heard and spoken and written thru good and bad perception, and so pronounced bad doom for all.........we have a clear blueprint of a perfect plan to bring all humans to perfectness and peace........i many be the only one here on jsh that say such, but remember there are 6.5 billion people on the planet, so that means nothing to whole logic......many would wish to believe as many of these things each heart has imagined and heard but the mind has cursed as foolishness and childishness, and each one that discourage another to believe put themselves further in the line to the back......the first will indeed become last and the last first.....a story of true love from the very first word ever written to mankind, even starting from the very first human recorded in our days.

OK...call me stupid if you want, but I'm not as poetic as most here. short and sweet...can someone explain what we are talking about?

I wish I could be as poetic as you guys are.

YellowRose writes in prose
and isn’t quite poetic
yet she still shows her spirit glows
as she’s highly empathetic

Please teach the girl to rhyme
so all her thoughts will chime
she'll be astute and won’t fall mute
to become a silent mime

Yellowrose,

The topic at hand involves the determination of what one has lived through that affects how that person perceives reality...

How our 'sight' is developed throughout our lives...

ok. I know that all the battles in my life that I have fought and won has made me stronger. I learn from the good and the bad. I try to learn to not repeat mistakes. But I have learned to know who I am and appreciate myself. I try to pass these things onto my son


Is that what you mean?

Yeah, that is the surface of the topic at hand...

The deeper contemplation comes when one tunnels within themselves removing all of that which is not of ourselves...



When you speak of your life's hard lessons...



Do you consider how and why those life situations affected your judgement and/or perception? Do they still have an affect on how you see a similar scenario, and how you react to such? Does negativity still live within you which was birthed from those scenarios?

How many buttons still exist within you, which others are able to push at times? Where did those originate?

These are some of the considerations which I give unto my own sense of understanding and perception...

The removal of the incorruptable worldly fingerprint which will remain so, as long as one views it through itself...

The unlearning process required for finding one's own innate being... within each of us...

come on..it took all i had in me to get that much out

This sounds good. I'll have to read it again, when I'm not so tired. I just reread parts of the book The Secret, on those same lines, seems.