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Wow... it's too early to cheer, but... 2 days on end with much lower numbers! Especially on a Tuesday this is good, as until now it has always been higher on Tuesdays due to cases added to that from over the weekend.
And now it's even lower than yesterday! Would we dare hope?!! Wait and see how the next few days go. We had our first case on Febr 27, so not 2 months yet. Looking at the numbers of a few other countries it does seem to go down by 2,5 months. |
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Oxford University coronavirus vaccine to begin human trials on Thursday as #UK. ‘throws everything’ at vital breakthrough
The U.K. government will provide £20 million ($24 million) to the university’s team and a further £22.5 million to Imperial College, where scientists are also working on a vaccine. Scientists at Oxford have previously said the aim is to produce a million doses of the vaccine by September. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/oxford-university-coronavirus-vaccine-to-begin-human-trials-on-thursday-as-uk-throws-everything-at-vital-breakthrough-2020-04-21 |
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Increasing evidence that covid causes blood clots which can be fatal or lead to stroke /amputation . (The opposite haemodynamic effect of the Ebola virus which causes Uncontrolled bleeding ) . http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/121203419/coronavirus-mysterious-covid19-bloodclotting-complication-deadly |
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I'm not so interested in a vaccine if this is meant to be preventative. Like they said, this was bad as no one has ever been exposed to it, so our immune systems don't recognise it.
I have faith in our immune systems which are the best defence we have. Apparently vaccines weaken it and make us more likely to get illnesses. Not entirely sure where I stand in that discussion, but I'm also not sure that I'd get a preventative shot for this if it was available. Today is the 3rd day of again fewer new cases! Fingers crossed this will continue and become the trend! But we -and some other- countries had 3 days like this a week ago, so if it happens again tomorrow... that would be a first! Fingers crossed! |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-52135814
If the Netherlands are in deed attempting to gain herd immunity then the partial lockdown will continue for a long time . I am not sure how much testing your country is doing crystal ... but seems it is not as proactive with this as other countries ??? |
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latest...
April 22, 5:40 p.m.
La Tomatina, the famous tomato food fight festival in Buñol, Spain, was canceled due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Spanish news site The Olive Press reported.“The Tomatina is suspended due to the situation that exists — the coronavirus pandemic — because we can’t ensure the safety that the Tomatina always boasted of as one of the safest parties in the world. April 22, 4:30 p.m.
The coronavirus pandemic has dramatically changed how consumers shop. Online shopping has increased amid the virus outbreak. Online sales were 91% higher in the second week of March than the year prior, research from Nielsen says. Foot traffic at club and warehouse stores are significantly below averages. Killing germs, providing immunity and health promotion are more relevant to some consumers now than claims around naturalness, sustainability, quality and brand; however, killing germs with the added benefit of doing so naturally has the strongest relevance in Germany, China and Italy, according to research by Nielsen. Top 5 product benefits that consumers are willing to spend more for, according to Nielsen research: Protects family against germs and bacteria Kills germs and bacteria in an effective way Kills germs and bacteria in a natural way Keeps my immune system strong Keeps my family safe from diseases April 22, 3:20 p.m.
Two pet cats in New York state tested positive for the coronavirus, becoming the first cases of the virus in household pets in the U.S., The Associated Press reported, citing federal officials. The U.S. Department of Agriculture and the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the two pets had contracted the virus from people in their households or neighborhoods. April 22, 12:38 p.m.
Sweden is one of the few countries around the world that hasn't issued mandatory lockdowns amid the coronavirus pandemic. Now, the country's chief epidemiologist says "herd immunity" can be reached in a couple weeks and that the country's strategy appears to be working. “In major parts of Sweden, around Stockholm, we have reached a plateau (in new cases) and we’re already seeing the effect of herd immunity and in a few weeks’ time we’ll see even more of the effects of that. And in the rest of the country, the situation is stable,” Dr. Anders Tegnell told CNBC on Tuesday. April 22, 11:42 a.m.
The first COVID-19-related fatalities in the U.S. happened earlier than thought, according to The Washington Post. California health officials said Tuesday that tissue samples from autopsies of two people who died in Santa Clara County in Northern California on Feb. 6 and Feb. 17 respectively tested positive for the virus. April 22, 11:14 a.m.
Beer lovers and breweries continue to be hit hard by the pandemic in Germany. On Tuesday German officials announced that Oktoberfest, called "the biggest and most beautiful beer festival in the world" by Bavaria's minister, has been canceled. Earlier this week, Euronews reported that Werneck Brewery, which has operated for over 400 years and survived multiple world wars, would close its doors in September and that at least 15 workers would lose their jobs. April 22, 10:46 a.m.
New Jersey reported its deadliest day yet of the coronavirus outbreak on Tuesday. Gov. Phil Murphy said 379 new fatalities were blamed on COVID-19, the single-highest one-day increase of the pandemic, bringing the total death toll to more than 4,700. April 22, 9:45 a.m.
CDC director gives dire warning about future of the pandemic. In an interview with The Washington Post, CDC Director Robert Redfield warned a second wave of the coronavirus next winter could be more problematic as it coincides with the entirety of the traditional flu season. April 22, 8:34 a.m.
The COVID-19 pandemic could lead to a "hunger pandemic," according to a new report from the United Nations' World Food Programme (WFP). The report says that the lives and livelihoods of 265 million people will be at risk of suffering from acute hunger by the end of 2020. Currently about 135 million in 55 countries are said to be at risk. April 22, 6:44 a.m.
Here are the latest updated totals from around the world, according to researchers from Johns Hopkins University: Total confirmed cases: 2,578,930 Total deaths: 178,096 Total recoveries: 692,333 The United States eclipsed 800,000 cases on Tuesday, doubling its total in the past two weeks. As of Wednesday morning, the country has seen over 45,000 deaths and over 75,000 recovered cases. April 21, 10:10 p.m.
On Tuesday, Gov. Chris Sununu announced New Hampshire will have a phased approach to reopening after coronavirus begins to subside. Coronavirus numbers in the state have stabilized, but are not declining. "We're looking at the different options for that stay-at-home order," Sununu said. "Will it just continue as it is for an indefinite amount of time? No, we hope not. We may, again, take a phased approach, whether geographically or different demographics of our population that we may have to keep that stay-at-home order in place for." April 21, 8:55 p.m.
Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said a new order could be implemented after it's current stay-at-home order expires on May 1. April 21, 7:45 p.m.
Small businesses could see relief sometime soon. The Senate approved a $484 billion relief package this afternoon to deliver aid to small businesses struggling from the economic effects triggered by the pandemic along with other priorities like money for hospitals and expanded COVID-19 testing. Funding for the program ran out earlier this month, prompting an outcry from the small business community, according to CNN. April 21, 6:35 p.m.
THE FDA is seeking plasma donations to help patients beat COVID-19. Individuals who have recovered from COVID-19 could help others who are severely ill by donating plasma. One donation has the potential to help up to four patients, according to the FDA. People who have fully recovered from COVID-19 for at least two weeks can contact a local blood or plasma collection center to schedule an appointment. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn recently issued an appeal for COVID-19 survivors to come forward. April 21, 5:15 p.m.
With the warmer weather comes an increase in garage theft as people head out to garden and enjoy the spring air during social distancing restrictions, according to police in Eugene, Oregon. Garage doors and side doors have mostly been closed during the cold weather months, but now that people are getting outdoors they aren’t as cautious about locking up. April 21, 4 p.m.
How easily can SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, spread? Very easily -- in fact, just from someone talking, as researchers from the NIH and the University of Pennsylvania showed in a study published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine. April 21, 2:30 p.m.
Could customers soon be banned from grocery stores? According to a CNN Business report, some experts believe it might become necessary to help protect workers in the stores. Some small, independent grocers have already switched to curbside pickup only for customers, CNN reports. "Anything that reduces the need for interaction with the public and allows for greater physical distancing will ultimately better protect grocery workers," John Logan, professor and director of Labor and Employment Studies at San Francisco State University told CNN. "Shuttering stores and repurposing them for pickup and delivery only would be a positive step." April 21, 2:03 p.m.
Nurses gathered outside of the White House on Tuesday, demanding more personal protective equipment for hospital workers battling on the front lives of the coronavirus pandemic. April 21, 1:40 p.m.
In-person voting may be to blame for for new coronavirus cases in Wisconsin following the state’s primary elections in early April. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, seven new COVID-19 cases appear to be linked to the in-person voting, including one poll worker. April 21, 12:41 p.m.
On Monday, South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster issued an executive order that restores public beach access and said local residents can visit the beaches at their discretion. The order also said that local authorities may restrict access as they see fit. In addition, the governor told some retailers that they may reopen, but they must follow strict social distancing guidelines. These retailers include: Furniture and home-furnishings stores Clothing, shoe, and clothing-accessory stores Jewelry, luggage, and leather goods stores Department stores, with the exception of hardware and home-improvement stores Sporting goods stores Book, craft, and music stores Flea markets Florists and flower stores April 21, 12:25 p.m.
Top official at the WHO warns people to get ready for "a new way of living." Dr. Takeshi Kasai said that if restrictions are lifted or relaxed before there is a strong system in place to identify and care for the sick, an increase in the spread of the disease is likely. April 21, 12:04 p.m.
The coronavirus death toll in the United Kingdom may be higher than reported, according to Reuters. The U.K's Office of National Statistics, whose figures include deaths in care homes, hospitals and hospices, recorded 13,212 deaths in England and Wales by April 10, compared to 9,288 in the government's daily toll. As of this past Sunday, the latest hospital data showed 16,509 people had died across the U.K., Reuters reported. "If these figures underestimate the overall death toll by a similar amount, then the true human cost for the United Kingdom as a whole could be above 23,000 based on the latest data - making it the second worst hit in Europe after Italy," the article states. April 21, 11:48 a.m.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the first at-home COVID-19 test under the emergency use authorization (EUA). The LabCorp COVID-19 RT-PCR Test will come with a self-collection kit that includes nasal swabs and saline. After conducting the test at home, the person who conducted the test will then mail their sample in an insulated package to the LabCorp testing site. LabCorp and the FDA both warn that due to sterility and cross-reactivity concerns, people should never use cotton swabs that didn't come with the kit to test for COVID-19. The FDA also reminds consumers that this approval only applies to the LabCorp kit and it is not possible to test using other swabs or methods. LabCorp says they intend to make the test available to consumers in most states who have a doctor's order in the coming weeks. April 21, 11:27 a.m.
Massachusetts becoming a hot spot for the coronavirus. April 21, 9:02 a.m.
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp said Monday that "due to favorable data and testing," a number of businesses in the state can begin to reopen on Friday, April 24. Some of the businesses include, gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, barbers, cosmetologists, and body art studios. Venues such as bars, nightclubs, amusement parks and live performance venues will remain closed. The governor said the state's shelter in place order is still active and will expire at 11:59 p.m. on April 30. Georgia has over 19,000 cases of COVID-19 and has reported 774 fatalities, according to the Georgia Department of Public Health. Despite the governor's decision, Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said in an interview with ABC News that she is still urging all city residents to stay at home. April 21, 7:24 a.m.
Chile officials hope to issue digital immunity cards to people who have recovered from coronavirus, according to the Chilean Health Minister. The so-called “COVID cards” would be issued to people who tested positive for the virus and have shown signs of recovery after a 14-day quarantine. April 20, 6:45 p.m.
Toilet paper shortages may get even worse as 25% of sawmill capacity in Canada is shut down. April 20, 5:35 p.m.
First Michigan child dies from COVID-19. After being on a ventilator for two weeks, 5-year-old Skylar Herbert died on Sunday. April 20, 3:44 p.m.
JBS USA closed down its pork processing plant in Worthington, Minnesota, after several workers tested positive for COVID-19. April 20, 12:38 p.m.
As people wash their hands more frequently, a question about how to properly wash fruits and vegetables during the COVID-19 pandemic has emerged. The World Health Organization (WHO) suggests people wash produce the same way they would normally. Before touching the fruits or vegetables, wash your hands with soap and water. Then, thoroughly wash the produce with clean water. According to the WHO, there are currently no confirmed cases of anyone contracting COVID-19 through food or food packaging. April 19, 3:30 p.m.
Is six feet enough space for social distancing? This number has become the standard for social distancing guidelines across the U.S., but that number could change depending on the type of activity you are doing. “As the droplets come out of a person’s mouth that are in the air, if you’re moving quickly toward where those droplets are, you need to create a much greater distance,” said AccuWeather Founder and CEO Dr. Joel N. Myers. “And if you’re both moving in the same direction at those speeds, you probably should be at least 20 or 25 feet apart. And if you’re biking, you probably need to be more like 30 to 40 feet apart.” April 19, 10:15 a.m.
The Navajo Department of Health issued an emergency health order stating all people on the tribe's reservation must wear protective masks when out in public, which includes parts of Arizona, New Mexico and Utah. The tribe and the Navajo Area Indian Health Service said the number of positive coronavirus tests reached 1,197 as of Saturday. |
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http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/4/9/21213472/coronavirus-sweden-herd-immunity-cases-death
Sweden’s approach to covid is also based on herd immunity . Not sure how they are testing what percent of communities have successful antibodies . I guess time will tell .. but personally I feel both Sweden and the Netherlands will not be able to confidently say they have the virus under control for some time . Watching from a far with interest :-) |
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Edited by
Blondey111
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Wed 04/22/20 04:31 PM
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Meanwhile .., back in nz ....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12326697 The signs are there that we are winning the battle with covid but it is still cautious optimism:-) again time will be the biggest decider . |
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My father is getting the coronavirus test.
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Does he have symptoms cat ???
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Thank you Blondey. My father hasn't felt well at 96-years-old and living with my sister. He was doing very well. Now living in a high risk area, has heart disease, has had pneumonia a couple of years ago. It's something I think about.
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He would definitely meet the criteria of being vulnerable to covid Cat but if he is staying home and in a small bubble with your sister caring for him his risks should be reduced . 96 is such a wonderful age
 . Let me know how he gets on . The test is relatively straight forward and he should have his result back soon . Try not to worry 
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Thanks, Blondey.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-52135814 If the Netherlands are in deed attempting to gain herd immunity then the partial lockdown will continue for a long time . I am not sure how much testing your country is doing crystal ... but seems it is not as proactive with this as other countries ??? You're obsessed with this immunity thing. It is quite logical at some point people around the world will get some form of natural immunity. That's what our bodies do. If not, we're pretty much in chit. As for our politics, wouldn't know, I don't follow it. I do know we've been under criticism from foreign countries many times before as they don't understand our way of doing things. We're a unique people, progressive, and I guess even the EU cannot get that out of us :) And then years later, when they see it worked, they apply the same thing. Of course never bothering to say "You were right! Sorry we ridiculed you! We won't do it again, we will learn from you!" As for lockdown, I don't think it's any different from elsewhere to be honest. Our biggest worry here in southwest was the Belgians and Germans coming here. So far they don't anymore (in the beginning they did). If there's a country that was doing BAD in capitals it's but Germany. Oddly enough they had a low deathrate, but their cases went through the roof for a long time. Belgium is BAD in capitals too. Their deathrate is even very higher than Italy and France... Weird as their healthcare generally speaking is outstanding! Funny the BBC reports this while the UK's deathrate is higher. Maybe because you're basing things on an old article. You gotta stay on top with something like this and use up to date sources and with a pandemic a 3 week article is old. And to make statements that a country is doing bad because of blablabla, is really premature since no one really knows yet how this virus works and spreads. It affects some areas and countries you wouldn't expect and not others that seem more logical. I don't think anyone can make sense of deathrate numbers either. We are doing really quite well, have done from the beginning, and our deathrate isn't high. Especially since we have 'only' 17 mill people on a very small piece of land and people are living on top of each other. Too soon to make bold statements. I guess some are jealous we do quite well even though we still have the ability to go to the chip shop or Chinese for a take-away, or have it delivered, and go for a walk :) |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-52135814 If the Netherlands are in deed attempting to gain herd immunity then the partial lockdown will continue for a long time . I am not sure how much testing your country is doing crystal ... but seems it is not as proactive with this as other countries ??? You're obsessed with this immunity thing. It is quite logical at some point people around the world will get some form of natural immunity. That's what our bodies do. If not, we're pretty much in chit. As for our politics, wouldn't know, I don't follow it. I do know we've been under criticism from foreign countries many times before as they don't understand our way of doing things. We're a unique people, progressive, and I guess even the EU cannot get that out of us :) And then years later, when they see it worked, they apply the same thing. Of course never bothering to say "You were right! Sorry we ridiculed you! We won't do it again, we will learn from you!" As for lockdown, I don't think it's any different from elsewhere to be honest. Our biggest worry here in southwest was the Belgians and Germans coming here. So far they don't anymore (in the beginning they did). If there's a country that was doing BAD in capitals it's but Germany. Oddly enough they had a low deathrate, but their cases went through the roof for a long time. Belgium is BAD in capitals too. Their deathrate is even very higher than Italy and France... Weird as their healthcare generally speaking is outstanding! Funny the BBC reports this while the UK's deathrate is higher. Maybe because you're basing things on an old article. You gotta stay on top with something like this and use up to date sources and with a pandemic a 3 week article is old. And to make statements that a country is doing bad because of blablabla, is really premature since no one really knows yet how this virus works and spreads. It affects some areas and countries you wouldn't expect and not others that seem more logical. I don't think anyone can make sense of deathrate numbers either. We are doing really quite well, have done from the beginning, and our deathrate isn't high. Especially since we have 'only' 17 mill people on a very small piece of land and people are living on top of each other. Too soon to make bold statements. I guess some are jealous we do quite well even though we still have the ability to go to the chip shop or Chinese for a take-away, or have it delivered, and go for a walk :) |
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There are a few different aspects about this pandemic which people seem to over-look because they are media saturated.
The spread is directly linked to population saturation. Densly populated areas have higher numbers. Media induced fear makes it seem worse than it is. Fear based not on actual but on potential. Granted the COVID 19 strain is dangerous to life but the numbers tell the story quite well. April 23, 6:33 a.m. Here are the latest updated global totals, according to researchers from Johns Hopkins University: Total confirmed cases: 2,639,243 Total deaths: 183,820 Total recovered: 715,734 If the deaths number were higher than the recovered number there would be a serious problem. There are 7.8 billion people as of March 2020 on this planet right now. That's 7,800,000,000 people. 2.6 million is not a significant part of the population. 184,000 is even less significant over-all. There is a natural order to life on this planet. Large populations are kept in check by natural culling processes. The problem with humans is the fact we beat the natural culling process. Nature seeks a balance. Its losing to our innovation. Eventually nature will evolve to regain control. Over-all, COVID 19 is deadly to a small portion of our over-all population. The weak and old. The threat is viruses tend to mutate. Blood-borne pathogens mutate to surface pathogens which mutate to air-borne pathogens. COVID 19 has the potential to mutate in a way which makes it deadly to all humans. Our population density sets the natural mutation rate. Our innovation currently beats the natural culling rate. In nature populations are kept in check by a number of natural limits usually based on environment. Disease is usually a last ditch, high saturation natural culling. Starvation is usually the method which keeps populations in check. Prey runs out of food and starves its numbers down. This in turn starves the predator numbers down. People have beat the human starvation culling process because we farm and mass produce our foods. We understand what our bodies need to stay healthy (as a species) over-all. Starvation is no longer an effective natural culling process for humans. Disease culling reduces large portions of a population in a relatively short time. Humans have beaten many natural disease culling processes using medicine and healthy living practices thru communication and education. Its only natural that diseases are getting worse. Its only natural with higher population densities diseases spread faster and mutate faster. Coronavirus in its current form is not significant but it has the potential to lead to a strain which could be. Our population and prevention methods are driving its mutation. If death toll and recovered numbers switch places, THEN we really do have something to worry about. If total confirmed cases reaches 10% of the population we have cause for alarm. At a total 7.8 billion population that's 780 million. If 780,000,000 people have contracted the virus we are in trouble. Thing is, even if we beat this current pandemic, its only a matter of time till we encounter one we can't. |
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I believe in herd immunity.
Surely that a natural form of inoculation? Yes I know some will get very ill and maybe not make it. Also in the UK around 20.000 die each year of the normal flu so that figure should be taken out of the equation imo. |
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I believe in herd immunity. Surely that a natural form of inoculation? Yes I know some will get very ill and maybe not make it. Also in the UK around 20.000 die each year of the normal flu so that figure should be taken out of the equation imo. If 'herd immunity' is the natural process of going through a disease and building up immunity naturally, I don't see what's wrong with it. What this virologist said is true: if most people have been exposed to something it acts as a buffer to keep it at bay a next time it comes around. That's what vaccine shots are based on too: if 93% or more are immune through shots you get a population that is immune. And yes, some will get very ill or die, others will go through a mild variant. Like you say, flu is no sweetheart, but few people realise just how lethal it still is because they call a cold the flu. OT -- a little more new cases today, but still well below 1000. So I'm still very hopeful!! Four days on end with lower numbers has not happened yet. |
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I'm really liking the 'herd immunity' concept.
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I think herd immunity works for many things without even knowing it.
They say that's part of why there are so many allergies these days because everyone is so clean. Like playing as kids in the garden in the dirt. Off topic but like so many have nut allergy. Maybe it's because years ago there was a big thing about giving small kids nuts in case they choke. So like a vaccine being given a tiny dose of something builds up your immunity. |
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