committed and no cheating partner

Why not up, it is much better...

the impossible

the impossible twice

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tell me what you want, what you really really want

They want what is in his pants..........................................his money.

WRONG!

lately it has been new cell phones instead of money!!

I haven't met one that didn't want money.

yes of course, but from experience never loose the personality women fell inlove with in you.... it doesn't matter what it is, keep the spark

hii

You mustn't go out much?

Looking for love in all the wrong places! I guess the men don’t realize it’s who they are attracted to that’s the problem.

I have never dated a man based on income, I am perfectly capable of taking care of myself.

it is very seldom that a woman will pay her share of the cost of some outing. There still seems to be the expectation that the man will pay most or all of the expenses.

Me too..
I wonder what kind of women these guys are going after that over and over again they meet the ones that just want money..or won't chip in and pay for part of the outimng..
I'm guessing they are going mainly for looks, instead of looking deeper and making sure she is a decent person, with character, who doesn't operate that way.

(And, judging by what i see on various dating sites..all the guys 50+ with children under age 10...I'm guessing they're going for much younger women...)

I have had guys get an attitude when I say i will pay for my part (dinner, movies, whatever)on our first meet..
Like it is some insult to their manhood or something..(or most likely, they can't demand "services for money spent" later)

I do it because *I* won't feel bad if the date/ meet goes bad...it's just a personal thing for me.

I appreciate an independent woman who helps with the cost of an outing. I also realize I might want to do something she can't afford and I need to contribute more for the both of us. This is where honest communication comes in! When someone just assumes the man is always going to pay for everything, it will cause a lot of hard feelings either because he feels used or he has demands she is not comfortable with.

My experience is that the vast majority of women expect the man to pay for everything on the first date. If the man doesn't, it's a turn off. In fact, some women even act insulted if the man refuses to pay for her.

Personally, it's a turn off for me if the woman is not willing to share the costs on the first date. If she at least offers, it places me more at ease. In fact, it also helps me learn a little bit more about her. If I really like her -- whether she offers or not -- I might choose to pay for her. But if I'm unsure or if the date has not gone well, I'm very uncomfortable with the expectation that I pay for everything.

It's not about chivalry. The tradition is outdated. More women work now. More couples share costs and expenses. Dating has changed. More women like to know a man better before ever going on a date. The first date is no longer a get-to-know-you event. It has become a I-want-to-know-you-BETTER occasion. As such, the first impression stage is already over at that point. Picking up the tab was always a first impression act. So why does the expectation still linger?

Knowing this, if I offer to pay, it's because I want to show something more. I want her to know that I really like her, and that I am willing to do things for her because I simply want to do them, not because it is expected.

But if I'm unsure if I really like her, I take no offense if she wants to split the costs. Maybe she's unsure too. Or maybe she just likes feeling independent. Or maybe she's making a courteous gesture towards me. Whatever her reason, I know that it's not necessarily a negative. It could actually be a positive.

Some people may tell me that I'm not a gentleman then. Oh well. I'm not going to worry about it. I reserve gentlemanly conduct for my partner. It's how I show her she is special.

Affection and respect