Power is not made less through restraint.

That's a painting and has nothing to do with who and what God actually is. The only description we have of God in the Bible is when Jesus says that God is a spirit and we are told that God is invisible.

Negative.....you just described nescience.

ignorance is not knowing something about anything that you should know about.

Hope you see the difference.

I have to agree on most of that, spider.

I think this debate goes a lot deeper than the physical appearance of the deities we are talking about.

I don't think most modern theologians would even assign the Christian god a gender. Moot point.

Then it is inaccurate to state that another 'god', 'allfather' is an old man. Since they are also taken from paintings, pictures, descriptions done 'by man'. Same as the painting in Sistine Chapel and any other of the works of art depicting Christian god as an old man, father figure. Man's description of one is no better or worse than another man's of another. The one cannot be a spirit and the other just an old man as the same arguement can be made in reverse. Zeus, or any other allfather figure, is a spirit and Christian god is an old man.

The definition of omnipotent is self contradictory. "Can God make a rock that's too big for him to pick up" and that kind of thing.

God's power is limited by His character, God won't do anything which is evil. God doesn't tempt or lie. God could easily tempt and lie, we do it everyday. But God won't do those things because they go against His character. I would say that rather than "God won't", "God can't" is more appropriate. God does not deviate from His character, such as a man might.

God is limited by paradox. God cannot do those things which are impossible by any measure. God cannot make a square triangle. God cannot make a four person trio. God cannot know something that will never happen.

Primarily the defintion of omnipotence is flawed due to the assumption that a being who can do anything possible can do anything. Some things are impossible by any means. Watch the movie Bruce All-Mighty, Jim Carey couldn't make his ex love Him. You can't force someone to love, they have to do it via free will.

Say you were to become allpowerful tomorrow, how many children would you rape? None, right? Becuase it goes against your character. So there is one thing that the all powerful Xjarhead2004 couldn't do, but only because of his own character.

Semantics...

I looked it up:

American Heritage Dictionary -

nes·cience
1. Absence of knowledge or awareness; ignorance.
2. Agnosticism.

I did not notice off hand any mention of the ancient Sumerians, why is this?

I don't know, wardriver. I'll ask.....Why would we?

Again, simple evasiveness. Try using a more complete Dictionary, if for no other reason than to assure yourself that your aqcuiesence isn't arbitrarily semantic.

Why would nescience be equal to ignorance by definition, and yet exist as ameans of description for the same thing?

That would clearly be ignorant, don't you think?

You should due to the fact many of the stories in the bible are very similar if not almost exact to those of the Sumerians. Just an FYI.

Again, simple evasiveness. Try using a more complete Dictionary, if for no other reason than to assure yourself that your aqcuiesence isn't arbitrarily semantic.

Why would nescience be equal to ignorance by definition, and yet exist as ameans of description for the same thing?

That would clearly be ignorant, don't you think?



WOULDEE, nothing personnal, but someitmes, I tell ya'...

Never admit you are wrong, no matter what, 'cause the bible ain't !!!

The endless possibilities of Apologetics, and Fallacious Circular Logic!!! There's a whole world awaiting us WAY, WAY OUT THERE!!!

Come on wouldee, you've got much stronger arguments for your faith than these dark ages Weapons of Mind Destruction!!!

When you speak straight form the heart, free from this Dark Ages BS 'apologetics' rhetoric, your clean spirit touches souls, and there is nothing 'off' that requires cleaning up.

You seem to be ambivalent when faced with the choice of speaking from pure spirit, rather then muddled ego.

Do violence to your ambivalence, and allow the sprit in you to shine fulltime!!!

I mean this in good faith wouldee. No offence intended you can be certain.

Quotes should start with MINUS the "/". Quotes should end with .

Self-appointed pontificating marshall 'frogs-in',

and 'frogs-off'.

I detest people who are anal about HTML codes on message boards and other things like grammar, spelling, and ALL CAPS. I detest those who have to point such things out in "public." Just send a little message with the corrections and leave it at that. With that said, I guess I could send this via private message... NAW...SCREW IT!

I hate grammar meanies but I do like hints on tech stuff like the quote trick.

Again, simple evasiveness. Try using a more complete Dictionary, if for no other reason than to assure yourself that your aqcuiesence isn't arbitrarily semantic.

Why would nescience be equal to ignorance by definition, and yet exist as ameans of description for the same thing?

That would clearly be ignorant, don't you think?



WOULDEE, nothing personnal, but someitmes, I tell ya'...

Never admit you are wrong, no matter what, 'cause the bible ain't !!!

The endless possibilities of Apologetics, and Fallacious Circular Logic!!! There's a whole world awaiting us WAY, WAY OUT THERE!!!

Come on wouldee, you've got much stronger arguments for your faith than these dark ages Weapons of Mind Destruction!!!

When you speak straight form the heart, free from this Dark Ages BS 'apologetics' rhetoric, your clean spirit touches souls, and there is nothing 'off' that requires cleaning up.

You seem to be ambivalent when faced with the choice of speaking from pure spirit, rather then muddled ego.

Do violence to your ambivalence, and allow the sprit in you to shine fulltime!!!

I mean this in good faith wouldee. No offence intended you can be certain.


You got that right.

I sensed some lurking on the part of some contributors could have justified a few assumptions being made. As it turns out, inadequate insight brought a hollow point in ricochet.

Nonetheless, not everything I have to say is necessarily concrete, as with all. Sometimes, I miss the mark.

Dialog can bring the life to all thoughts.

Some are incomplete without interaction.

I tried!!!

Dialog can bring the life to all thoughts.





And you got that right my friend!

:)

God describes himself in the masculine gender. The "Bride' is always a faithful country or group of believers. read it and weep, revisionists.

Several people are having issues with the quotes, instead of sending emails to all of them, I posted it in the thread. TLW thanked me when I did it earlier for him, but some people can't get over how much they despise me enough to appreciate my help. I don't care what you type in, but if you want to use the forums quote functionality you will do it the way I typed.