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Rambill wrote:
abra, god dont need to make excuses for his actions. we do. Exactly right Bill. Therefore if you have a picture of God that requires excuses it must not be the correct picture. 
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I still believe that anything is possible for God, I have seen it. But for this to happen you need to blindly believe in God. Otherwise known as faith. You are correct. That is exactly what I would have to do. I never get tired of this quote: "Faith is believing in what you know aint true" - Mark Twain I absolutely disagree with Mr. Twain because there are somethings that are true whether u believe in them or not. |
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well my friend corrections have been done. my point has been stated. in summary when for whatever reason or life event we are not able to see God in his most simple nature, we try to find means to justify our sets of values. then u can come, and say that through my beliefs I'm trying to justify my existance. Well, as long as I don't interefere with your life I think I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not sure I understood this quote. But if I am understanding, I'm not sure if it had much to do with the topic of - "is anything possible with god" topic. Could you please clarify? Anything is possible with God. Simply means that when as a human being i have done anything on my hands to solve something (like illness) it's just in his hands to provide with health |
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again, I can't argue against faith. But, if with a god anything is possible, then you have to ask yourself: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Greek Philosopher - Epicurus [341–270 B.C.] Or, is God not willing to acceed to mans' impertinent desire to control his own destiny? 
I moved up for you, Jarhead   
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i guess i don't know how to use this quoting tool here
because i'm quoting more of what i really want to quote. |
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thank you my brother.
God bless you. |
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So in your opinion, god IS able, but not willing to prevent all evil in the world, because to do so would prevent humans to properly worship him, by choice. So...is that our sole purpose?
This would also mean, it is not omnipotent. This sounds a lot like Zues to me. |
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So in your opinion, god IS able, but not willing to prevent all evil in the world, because to do so would prevent humans to properly worship him, by choice. So...is that our sole purpose? This would also mean, it is not omnipotent. This sounds a lot like Zues to me. As far as I'm concern my whole life revolves around my God. There is not even a breath that goes to my lungs that is not a blessing from my heavenly Dad. He is omnipotent because of His omnipotence you, my friend, are able to breath. |
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Miquel wrote: First:
God offers a very simple way to get everyone saved. Which is doing good to ur brothers and sisters to your right and to your left. It can't be simpler than that. As far as I know, and as far as I have lived my own life. I’m with you on this one 100% But if being good is all that’s required then it doesn’t matter what religion we believe in. As long as we are good that’s all that matters. I’m all for that mindset!
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Miquel wrote: First:
God offers a very simple way to get everyone saved. Which is doing good to ur brothers and sisters to your right and to your left. It can't be simpler than that. As far as I know, and as far as I have lived my own life. I’m with you on this one 100% But if being good is all that’s required then it doesn’t matter what religion we believe in. As long as we are good that’s all that matters. I’m all for that mindset!
well James I have always said (and I have been attacked for this by some christian brothers) that I don't believe that God will condemn those men and women in Africa or other remote places, that because of the circumstances they have not had access to my Lord's light. |
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gosh I did it again
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So in your opinion, god IS able, but not willing to prevent all evil in the world, because to do so would prevent humans to properly worship him, by choice. So...is that our sole purpose? Yes, our purpose is to glorify God. But you must have missed the part that we need free will to love one another. We also need free will to be anything more than puppets or robots. We should all be grateful that we have free will, it brings a lot of evil, but even more good. This would also mean, it is not omnipotent. This sounds a lot like Zues to me. God is omnipotent, with His only limitations being that God will not go against his character and God cannot do anything that is a paradox. That's noting like Zeus. Zeus could be stopped from doing what he wanted to do, God cannot be. Zeus was an old man, God is a spirit. |
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You are correct. That is exactly what I would have to do. I never get tired of this quote: "Faith is believing in what you know aint true" - Mark Twain ----------------------- I absolutely disagree with Mr. Twain because there are somethings that are true whether u believe in them or not. Faith or ignorance are the only two things that can cause that scenario. |
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thanxs to my Lord I'm not an ignorant.
Now you draw your own conclusions |
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You are correct. That is exactly what I would have to do. I never get tired of this quote: "Faith is believing in what you know aint true" - Mark Twain ----------------------- I absolutely disagree with Mr. Twain because there are somethings that are true whether u believe in them or not. Faith or ignorance are the only two things that can cause that scenario. Its neither faith nor ignorance that i didn't know that a squirrel was eaten yesterday by a bird of prey in any forest,meadow or field. Only nescience at work. Not knowing something about anything that I didn't need to know.
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God is omnipotent, with His only limitations being that God will not go against his character and God cannot do anything that is a paradox. That's noting like Zeus. Zeus could be stopped from doing what he wanted to do, God cannot be. Zeus was an old man, God is a spirit. Spider, may I bring to your attention that Zeus is portrayed as an old man same as Christian God is. Note the Sistine Chapel, white haired old man giving the touch of life. |
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God is omnipotent, with His only limitations being that God will not go against his character and God cannot do anything that is a paradox. That's noting like Zeus. Zeus could be stopped from doing what he wanted to do, God cannot be. Zeus was an old man, God is a spirit. Once again there is omnipotents, or there isn't. There is no inbetween. Either you are all powerful and everything is possible....or even one limit has been impossed..you are no longer all powerful...you have a limit. So is there a limit to the christian gods power? Now that I made this argument. I think becuase of our conflicting arguments, we are in a circle we will never get out of.... |
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Spoo!! Haven't gotten the hang of getting rid of what I don't need.
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Its neither faith nor ignorance that i didn't know that a squirrel was eaten yesterday by a bird of prey in any forest,meadow or field. Only nescience at work. Not knowing something about anything that I didn't need to know.
Not true. You were ignorant to the fact that a squirrel was eaten yesterday. You simply didn't know. Ignorance, by definition is: the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information. |
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