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So God was lying when he said "This is my son, in whom I'm well pleased"? Because if they were not two separate "persons" he could not have such such a thing because God would have been talking about himself.
They are absolutely 3 different persons shown in many scriptures. But they make up one God. And no I don't just see "god" as a "title" specifically. You say "and not as ONE SUPREME BEING", God means "noun. 1. the one Supreme Being". For we again do not know the father's name specifically. So we call the Father "God", this is a reference for our father so people will know whom we're talking about as a lot of people call their dad "father" and to show his superiority to us. There ARE 3 separate distinct Persons IN IN IN ONE GOD...YES.... NOT 3 separate entities UNDER UNDER UNDER One God "Title" That is entirely what "God" means. If something/someone is your "god", they have authority over you. "God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being". Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. |
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POSTED BY COWBOY
I claimed nothing about worshiping any "persons". I have said I worship God, nothing more, nothing less. in your post below you refer to Jesus and God as "two separate persons" POSTED BY COWBOY so God was lying when he said "This is my son, in whom I'm well pleased"? Because if they were not two separate "persons" he could not have such such a thing because God would have been talking about himself. I didn't know that God was a person The word "persons" is used to show separate entities. They are not just some "person". |
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"God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being". Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. if God is not a species...then that means that The Father is Baal |
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"God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being". Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. if God is not a species...then that means that The Father is Baal What does that have to do with one another? |
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God the WORD , who is the Second Person of the Triune God
beceme a HUMAN Person....... who was not only fully God ( God with us ) but also fully man.... His Name Is Jesus, Funches... 
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Thu 12/15/11 08:54 PM
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So God was lying when he said "This is my son, in whom I'm well pleased"? Because if they were not two separate "persons" he could not have such such a thing because God would have been talking about himself.
They are absolutely 3 different persons shown in many scriptures. But they make up one God. And no I don't just see "god" as a "title" specifically. You say "and not as ONE SUPREME BEING", God means "noun. 1. the one Supreme Being". For we again do not know the father's name specifically. So we call the Father "God", this is a reference for our father so people will know whom we're talking about as a lot of people call their dad "father" and to show his superiority to us. There ARE 3 separate distinct Persons IN IN IN ONE GOD...YES.... NOT 3 separate entities UNDER UNDER UNDER One God "Title" That is why it doesn't just say Jesus is God. It ALWAYS says THY God, or YOUR God. That is why I'm referring to it as a "title". It is used to show superiority. Well...The Father is God.... Jesus is God..... and the Holy Spirit is God..... all equally God ,yet all 3 are JUST ONE GOD. now....erase the Johovah Witness teaching you were subject to in the past...because they see the Father as GOD ALMIGHTY only...without understanding that the Father and Son and The Holy Spriit are the 3 SEPARATE persons IN One God Almighty.... in other words, God Almighty was not just the Father only ( but also included the Son and Holy Spirit )..... In other words, the Father to a JW means God Almighty....cause they never understood that the "Us" ,was referring to ONLY ONE GOD , in genesis and thruout scriptures......and I personally believe being under their teaching at one time, is what has caused you so much confusion, Cowboy. now....erase the Johovah Witness teaching you were subject to in the past...because they see the Father as GOD ALMIGHTY only...without understanding that the Father and Son and The Holy Spriit are the 3 SEPARATE persons IN One God Almighty.... in other words, God Almighty was not just the Father only ( but also included the Son and Holy Spirit )..... I have no idea what "Johovah Witness Teachings" you are talking about. I've never been, nor have I ever studied with the Johovahs. Heck the Johovahs, or at least the one's I personally know don't believe Jesus to be the only begotten son of the Father, they see him merely as a prophet. |
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POSTED BY COWBOY
I claimed nothing about worshiping any "persons". I have said I worship God, nothing more, nothing less. in your post below you refer to Jesus and God as "two separate persons" POSTED BY COWBOY so God was lying when he said "This is my son, in whom I'm well pleased"? Because if they were not two separate "persons" he could not have such such a thing because God would have been talking about himself. I didn't know that God was a person The word "persons" is used to show separate entities. They are not just some "person". no Cowboy...God is not a person ...it only shows that you don't know God |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 12/15/11 09:05 PM
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The word "persons" is used to show separate entities. They are not just some "person".
NOT a person in the same way that we humans are called persons, Cowboy...but Person is used as a way to better understand the 3 distinctions IN One God. We call it Persons , in order to better describe these 3 separate distinctions IN ONE GOD. But They are NOT 3 separate Entities....they are 3 separate Distinctions IN One GOD. |
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The word "persons" is used to show separate entities. They are not just some "person".
NOT a person in the same way that we humans are called persons, Cowboy...but Person is used as a way to better understand the 3 distinctions IN One God. We call it Persons , in order to better describe these 3 separate distinctions IN ONE GOD. But They are NOT 3 separate Entities....they are 3 separate Distinctions IN One GOD. Define Humans please. Psalm 82 1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. better understand the 3 distinctions IN One God. 3 distinctions, 3 persons, SAME THING. They are not the same exact being as Jesus said multiple times he does the will of the father and not his own. And another great example of the total separation between Jesus and the father. Jesus says specifically right here that he does not do HIS own will, but the will of the father. If they were one in the exact same being, or as you like to say it "Godhead", then his will would already be the will of the Father. Basically he wouldn't have his own will. John 5:30 30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. |
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The word "persons" is used to show separate entities. They are not just some "person".
NOT a person in the same way that we humans are called persons, Cowboy...but Person is used as a way to better understand the 3 distinctions IN One God. We call it Persons , in order to better describe these 3 separate distinctions IN ONE GOD. But They are NOT 3 separate Entities....they are 3 separate Distinctions IN One GOD. Define Humans please. Psalm 82 1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. better understand the 3 distinctions IN One God. 3 distinctions, 3 persons, SAME THING. They are not the same exact being as Jesus said multiple times he does the will of the father and not his own. And another great example of the total separation between Jesus and the father. Jesus says specifically right here that he does not do HIS own will, but the will of the father. If they were one in the exact same being, or as you like to say it "Godhead", then his will would already be the will of the Father. Basically he wouldn't have his own will. John 5:30 30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. And by no means am I saying they are two separate Gods, for we worship one God. |
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ENTITY means BEING..
God is not 3 separate Entities,,,,, God is ONE BEING..or ONE ENTITY.... God is ONE ENTITY or ONE BEING..consisting of 3 separate distinctions WITHIN that ONE BEING (or ONE ENTITY ) . Distinctions is what we mean by Persons....cause each Person is Personal , also....God is a PERSONAL GOD.... not a strangerwho is afar from us..but a God Who is ever near to us.... A Personal God who even knows the very number of the hairs on our head... a Personal God ......Who is 3 Persons IN One God... |
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referring to the father and the holy spirit as a person is simply a tactic to keep from admitting that some Christians worship three Gods
the Christians that only worship one God would never or have to refer to the father as a person to explain God |
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referring to the father and the holy spirit as a person is simply a tactic to keep from admitting that some Christians worship three Gods the Christians that only worship one God would never or have to refer to the father as a person to explain God No one is saying God is a person. |
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ENTITY means BEING.. God is not 3 separate Entities,,,,, God is ONE BEING..or ONE ENTITY.... God is ONE ENTITY or ONE BEING..consisting of 3 separate distinctions WITHIN that ONE BEING (or ONE ENTITY ) . Distinctions is what we mean by Persons....cause each Person is Personal , also....God is a PERSONAL GOD.... not a strangerwho is afar from us..but a God Who is ever near to us.... A Personal God who even knows the very number of the hairs on our head... a Personal God ......Who is 3 Persons IN One God... God is not 3 separate Entities Sure he is. While Jesus was on the cross, God the father said "This is my son, in whom I'm well pleased". That is definitely two separate entities. Not saying they are separate Gods, because they are not, just physically separate. |
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referring to the father and the holy spirit as a person is simply a tactic to keep from admitting that some Christians worship three Gods the Christians that only worship one God would never or have to refer to the father as a person to explain God No one is saying God is a person. how is it in the Grace of God to use the term "person" to describe him ...it's clearly not in the bible ..this is what I mean about you running to Satan's dictionary and Satan websites to get your biblical information from the Old Terstament made sure that any attempts to turn Jesus or any man into God, will always take away from God's Grace .. |
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referring to the father and the holy spirit as a person is simply a tactic to keep from admitting that some Christians worship three Gods the Christians that only worship one God would never or have to refer to the father as a person to explain God No one is saying God is a person. how is it in the Grace of God to use the term "person" to describe him ...it's clearly not in the bible ..this is what I mean about you running to Satan's dictionary and Satan websites to get your biblical information from the Old Terstament made sure that any attempts to turn Jesus or any man into God, will always take away from God's Grace .. I didn't use "person" to describe him. I said person"s" in description of all three. Saying person"s" shows the separation of the mentioned parties physically, not specifically saying they are a person. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 12/15/11 10:14 PM
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Absolutely not lol. Jesus has entire authority everyone and everything thing. He is our God.
Ok Cowboy...right here..you say Jesus is our God. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ). But when Christians say, JESUS IS OUR GOD , this is what we mean: JESUS IS JUST AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD... JESUS IS EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD.... AND BECAUSE THE FATHER GAVE JESUS AlL THE GLORY NOW , IT IS OK TO WORSHIP JESUS AS GOD. ( Find and Read the scriptures again, that point this out ....I shared them in an earlier post). FATHER, JESUS , AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ....AGAIN, ARE THE 3 PERSONS IN IN IN ONE GOD ...AND EACH PERSON IS EQUALLY GOD. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 12/15/11 09:59 PM
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That is entirely what "God" means. If something/someone is your "god", they have authority over you. "God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being".
Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. Ok....last post here.... IF you STILL can't even at LEAST realize by now ,that God is a SUPREME BEING...... well.....I quess I did want to try at least one more time tonight to help you see... but I am gonna have to quit right here...and totally let this go now..and just pray, Cowboy. I will not get upset anymore...but I will pray. ps...you told me in an email once, that you had been around the JW teaching in the past..only reason I mentioned it. God Bless You now....Take care. 
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"God" is not a species, it is not specifically a "being". Your God could be money, your god could be beer, your god could be anything you allow have authority over you. if God is not a species...then that means that The Father is Baal What does that have to do with one another? Baal was a God in the bible...so if The Father is not one in a species of Gods known as "Elohim" therefore The Father must be Baal in your attempt to turn the Man called Jesus into God the only way to do this is to change the meaning of the word God which is impossible to acheive using the bible so instead you Cowboy ran to Satan's Dictionary to find a meaning that would fit your agenda, now you claim that the term God is only "a title of authority" which anyone can hold...you even claim in your post that a person's God could be a beer to suggest that God is anything but the creator goes against Christianity...and here you are doing exactly that by referring to God as "persons" ..... this is how the AntiChrist will form his legion...from followers that believe that a Man or "persons" can be God or is God no where in The Bible does God refer to himself as being "persons"...but yet here you are preaching that he is repent heathen |
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Absolutely not lol. Jesus has entire authority everyone and everything thing. He is our God.
Ok Cowboy...right here..you say Jesus is our God. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ). But when Christians say, JESUS IS OUR GOD , this is what we mean: JESUS IS JUST AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD... JESUS IS EQUALLY AS MUCH GOD AS THE FATHER IS GOD.... AND BECAUSE THE FATHER GAVE JESUS AlL THE GLORY NOW , IT IS OK TO WORSHIP JESUS AS GOD. ( Find and Read the scriptures again, that point this out ....I shared them in an earlier post). FATHER, JESUS , AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ....AGAIN, ARE THE 3 PERSONS IN IN IN ONE GOD ...AND EACH PERSON IS EQUALLY GOD. (From your past posts, we know You mean Jesus is " our God ",to mean Jesus as a separate ENTITY from The Father...instead of just a separate PERSON WITHIN ONE GOD,, as Christians believe ) There right here is where all the confusion came from of what you think I believe. When I say separate entity I am meaning it the same way you are meaning separate person. We worship ONE God, ONE, not two, or three, but ONE. |
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