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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
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Wed 12/14/11 09:11 AM


Why you always try to make the person you're discussing with look bad or try to make them feel bad? This can be shown by your comments of "spread Satan's word". Not one of us know EXACTLY how the word is to be understood. That is why we are told to congregate eg., study the word TOGETHER.


it's because you insist that you are not here to spread the word which goes against the command handed down by Jesus

so if you are not here to spread the word of Jesus as you claim...whos word is left for you to spread..... Satan perhaps?




Not here to "spread" the word primarily. I'm here to "discuss" religious views and beliefs. And in doing so, yes I'm "spreading" the word of God. But I'm not "preaching" I'm discussing mine and others differences in religious beliefs.

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Wed 12/14/11 09:15 AM


Matthew 3:16
16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:




Matthew 3:17
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.



how do you know that God wasn't talking about the Dove being his Son ...but anyway...are you saying that God spirit descended to Earth as a Dove but yet he left his voice in Heaven

and if his spirit is on Earth....that means that he has no Spirit in Heaven

these passage only indicate that God is not omnipresent.....if God exist everywhere...why would he have to descend



and if his spirit is on Earth....that means that he has no Spirit in Heaven


No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


how do you know that God wasn't talking about the Dove being his Son ...but anyway...are you saying that God spirit descended to Earth as a Dove but yet he left his voice in Heaven


What dove? If you're speaking of the reference of "dove" in these verses, he descended LIKE a dove. The dove in reference is discriptive of how the spirit descended, it's not speaking of a bird in exacts as in saying a bird flew down.

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Wed 12/14/11 09:49 AM
Edited by funches on Wed 12/14/11 09:51 AM

No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

if his spirit is in both heaven and Earth then why did the spirit have to descend from Heaven...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time

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Wed 12/14/11 09:55 AM


No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?

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Wed 12/14/11 10:40 AM
I am so upset with you two fighting over God and Jesus as i'm sure they dont like much ether,Jesus who gave his life for us all & GOD who gave his only son to do so.What an unselfish act to show there love for us. I am ashamed to see you two fighting over who's who and whats what.You should take all this anger and wanting to be right and put it into the love of both of them and those around you.The important place for Jesus to be next is here on earth and taking us home to meet GOD him self.You keep this up and your going to miss the ride.Now let us pray God this has all been a big miss understanding that it is not important where your son was, but that he was here and died for are sins so that we can go to heaven,for this we thank you GOD amen.

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Wed 12/14/11 10:53 AM

I am so upset with you two fighting over God and Jesus as i'm sure they dont like much ether,Jesus who gave his life for us all & GOD who gave his only son to do so.What an unselfish act to show there love for us. I am ashamed to see you two fighting over who's who and whats what.You should take all this anger and wanting to be right and put it into the love of both of them and those around you.The important place for Jesus to be next is here on earth and taking us home to meet GOD him self.You keep this up and your going to miss the ride.Now let us pray God this has all been a big miss understanding that it is not important where your son was, but that he was here and died for are sins so that we can go to heaven,for this we thank you GOD amen.


No one's fighting, just discussing. We all have our own different thoughts/beliefs/interpretations. I post mine in hopes that if it is wrong and or incorrect according to the scriptures someone will show me. When they show me that I'm mistaken, it's not fighting. They are lending out a loving helping hand to correct what I once thought to be. And if it seems I'm "arguing" with that person, say MorningSong, I'm not arguing, just showing why I've come to that conclusion that I have come to, in hopes again to either show this person their error, or they show me further of mine. Funches just comes to belittle the entire thing in all.

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Wed 12/14/11 11:02 AM



No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 12/14/11 11:05 AM




No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.

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Wed 12/14/11 11:11 AM

I am so upset with you two fighting over God and Jesus as i'm sure they dont like much ether,Jesus who gave his life for us all & GOD who gave his only son to do so.What an unselfish act to show there love for us. I am ashamed to see you two fighting over who's who and whats what.You should take all this anger and wanting to be right and put it into the love of both of them and those around you.The important place for Jesus to be next is here on earth and taking us home to meet GOD him self.You keep this up and your going to miss the ride.Now let us pray God this has all been a big miss understanding that it is not important where your son was, but that he was here and died for are sins so that we can go to heaven,for this we thank you GOD amen.


skywisper...even God and Jesus fight sometimes....remember when Jesus ask God why have thou forsaken me....that was them fighting ...

but anyway...I heard a rumor that Jesus is not dead...so how could he have died for anyone sins


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Wed 12/14/11 11:12 AM





No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 12/14/11 12:04 PM






No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn

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Wed 12/14/11 12:30 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 12/14/11 12:33 PM







No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn


then learn that an omnipresence would have no need to "descend" and this is why The Holy Spirit can't be a God or God

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Wed 12/14/11 12:49 PM








No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn


then learn that an omnipresence would have no need to "descend" and this is why The Holy Spirit can't be a God or God


God is spiritually omnipresent, he can "physically" descend from somewhere while still being spiritually omnipresent. And that has nothing to do with God being the Holy Spirit or not.

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Wed 12/14/11 01:04 PM









No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn


then learn that an omnipresence would have no need to "descend" and this is why The Holy Spirit can't be a God or God


God is spiritually omnipresent, he can "physically" descend from somewhere while still being spiritually omnipresent. And that has nothing to do with God being the Holy Spirit or not.


an omnipresence is not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics

which means if God has to physically "descend" anywhere... then he is not omnipresent ......

the holy spirit is most likely an Angel

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Wed 12/14/11 01:20 PM










No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn


then learn that an omnipresence would have no need to "descend" and this is why The Holy Spirit can't be a God or God


God is spiritually omnipresent, he can "physically" descend from somewhere while still being spiritually omnipresent. And that has nothing to do with God being the Holy Spirit or not.


an omnipresence is not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics

which means if God has to physically "descend" anywhere... then he is not omnipresent ......

the holy spirit is most likely an Angel



God is under no law of physics. Heck he created the law of physics.

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Wed 12/14/11 02:05 PM











No it was both in Heaven and on Earth, he is omnipresent.


if his spirit in both heaven and Earth then why did he have to descend from Heaven...

omnipresence means an existence everywhere at all times...

so is God omnipresent only part time and not full time


He is omnipresent all the time. Meaning he could be here and there at the same time. Even if his spirit descends from Heaven, he is still in Heaven, here, and there. Being omnipresent means he could descend somewhere but still be where he descended from.

If someone/something is "omnipresent" to be present somewhere one must go. And just because this "omnipresent" being went somewhere doesn't mean they aren't where they originally started or even wasn't where they ended up.

Hard to explain in words.

God is omnipresent yet is in one spot.

"oxygen" is omnipresent mostly, but you can feel the breeze. How could you feel the breeze if the air was already there?


oxygen does not exist in space but supposedly God does...this is why there is no such thing as "mostly" omnipresent...God is either omnipresent or he's not

this is why if the spirit has to descend...then that should be a clear indication that the spirit is not God


But he is.


you were claiming that that the spirit was Jesus.......maybe later you will claim that it's Baal


Or maybe people learn


then learn that an omnipresence would have no need to "descend" and this is why The Holy Spirit can't be a God or God


God is spiritually omnipresent, he can "physically" descend from somewhere while still being spiritually omnipresent. And that has nothing to do with God being the Holy Spirit or not.


an omnipresence is not under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics

which means if God has to physically "descend" anywhere... then he is not omnipresent ......

the holy spirit is most likely an Angel



God is under no law of physics. Heck he created the law of physics.


with that revelation...now it should be clear to you why he wouldn't have to physically "descend" anyplace

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Wed 12/14/11 03:44 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 12/14/11 04:41 PM






Funches wrote:



are you sure this map is accurate...Cowboy said that Jesus is both the Son and The Holy Spirit

according to Cowboy there should only be two circles not Three circles...one circle for the Father and one circle for Jesus/Holy Spirit



Cowboy wrote:

Very good diagram, that's exactly what I been saying this whole time. To understand this, one can not personify "God". "God" is a title of authority. That is why Jesus said, your lord "Thy God". But even while Jesus was on the cross, he cried out "my God, my God "....




COWBOY.....GOD is NOT NOT NOT just some TITLE of Authority !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD IS A SUPREME BEING !!!!!

GOD IS A PERSONAL GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

THE WORD BECAME FLESH......AND DWELT AMONG US....MAKING

GOD A PERSONAL GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ONCE MORE......

GOD IS ONE SUPREME BEING ( CONSISTING OF 3 PERSONS,WHO MAKE UP

THAT ONE SUPREME BEING ,OR....ONE GOD OR...ONE ENTITY.........)

NOT JUST SOME TITLE !!!!!


GOD IS NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT JUST A TITLE !!!!!!!


THE THREE PERSONS ARE NOT JUST UNDER SOME TITLE !!!!!!

THEY ARE THE THREE PERSONS WITHIN ONE GOD ALMIGHTY !!!!!!!!!


GOD IS A SUPREME BEING...A PERSONAL GOD !!!!!!!!

ALL THREE PERSONS MAKE UP ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING !!!!!


NOT 3 BEINGS UNDER SOME TITLE.....NO!!!!!


THEY ARE 3 PERSONS WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING !!!!



STOP SAYING YOU ARE SAYING THE SAME THING .....YOU ARE NOT NOT

NOT SAYING THE SAME THING AT ALL!!!!


GET IT RIGHT....OR DON'T POST HERE ANYMORE ON CHRISTIANITY !!!!


YOU ARE ONCE MORE, MAKING IT " SOUND AND APPEAR " ,LIKE YOU ARE

SAYING THE VERY SAME THING AS CHRISTIANS ARE SAYING.....AND

THEREFORE MAKING IT " APPEAR "THAT CHRISTIANS ARE SAYING AND

BELIEVING THE VERY SAME FALSE HOOD THAT YOU ARE SAYING

ON HERE.....WHEN YOU VERY WELL KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT

NOT NOT SAYING THE SAME THING AS CHRISTIANS ARE SAYING AT ALL!!!


MANY MANY MANY POSTS EXPLAINING IN DETAIL ABOUT THE TRIUNE

GOD,HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSTED ON HERE.....MAKING IT ALL VERY

CLEAR BY NOW...SO THEREFORE , YOU HAVE NO MORE EXCUSE FOR

YOUR DECEPTION TO CONTINUE ON HERE!!!!

NADA !!!

THE DECEPTION IS GOING TO STOP.....YOU ARE FOOLING NO ONE ON

HERE AT ALL!!!!



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Wed 12/14/11 09:11 PM
Eccl 10:1-3

Dead flies putrefy the perfumer's ointment,
And cause it to give off a foul odor;
So does a little folly to one respected for wisdom and honor.
2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand,
But a fool's heart at his left.
3 Even when a fool walks along the way,
He lacks wisdom,
And he shows everyone that he is a fool .
NKJV

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Thu 12/15/11 03:27 AM





Jeremiah 7:21-23
King James Version (KJV)


21Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.

22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.



It should be noted that other translations state the opposite of the KJV. IE: that God spoke "not only about" sacrifices...

But, if you take other verses from the OT that instruct the Israelites to NOT worship YHWH like the heathens worship their gods, then I figure if they sacrifice, we shouldn't... (which totally agrees with my conscience)...






Yahweh is Ticked here Peter. They are living amoung people sacraficing to demons..

Jer 7:16-20

16 "Therefore do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me; for I will not hear you. 17 Do you not see what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger. 19 Do they provoke Me to anger?" says Yahweh. "Do they not provoke themselves, to the shame of their own faces?"

20 Therefore thus says Yahweh Elohim: "Behold, My anger and My fury will be poured out on this place — on man and on beast, on the trees of the field and on the fruit of the ground. And it will burn and not be quenched."
NKJV


this is what he says right before he says I will not accept your sacrafices.. its like sinning and then saying i am sorry and then sinning again knowing all u have to do is say i am sorry again.

He says do as your forefathers did and obey my voice.. stop it NOW.. thats my take on it at least.. Blessings..Miles



This isn't the only time Israel has been "chastened" by the prophets for their meaningless sacrifices. This is however, one time that "Moses's Law" should come under scrutiny if YHWH did NOT command Moses concerning sacrifices.


But this isn't the only time that "the Law" should come under scrutiny either. The Israelites where chastened numerous times for being total fucups...






Yahweh commanded the sacrafises.. they were a foreshadow of many things to come. Yahshua included.

The Israelites got with other nations and took on thier pagan practices. I mean look at chr-stmas a pagan practise everybodie knows and it did not come into the believers untill the 4th century.

what would Yahweh say to someone celebrating Satanlia? were getting ready to in 20 days.

we do not think about that much because the law is whatever anyone says it is in thier heart.

we here that all the time also.

The prophets never wanted the job.. they knew what they had to do nobody was going to like.

Jonah didn't and Moses didn't.. none of them said me , me pick me.

They had to speak for Yahweh and it was never about doing what he said to do in the law if they were not perversing it like the Pharasees did.

Yahshua said he was coming back in a wicked and adultrous time.

Look what was going on when he came.. Herod and the great slaughter of the Innocent 2 years and under all males.

The next Herod when John was baptising had his brothers wife.

in the roman community everything that is being done now was being done then.. whatever the imagination wanted.

ministers making themselves prophets and messiahs.

2 Peter 2:1-3

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
NKJV

Deceptive words.. some preacher are so good at twisting scripture which they know exactly what they are doing I wonder wow if they would just follow where Yahweh said go it would be great.. but they will not.. thier used to the way things are and they like it.

jeremiah's time all over again..Blessings..Miles






Forgive me Miles, I meant to post this last week but obviously forgot...


Bolded above are a few sentences which I would like to address. One is really insignificant (pick me!), but the other supports my belief of "corrupted" laws...


Isaiah 6:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.



Jeremiah 8:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.



Jeremiah 8:8
New International Version (NIV)

8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

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Thu 12/15/11 07:15 AM
Edited by funches on Thu 12/15/11 07:28 AM






Funches wrote:



are you sure this map is accurate...Cowboy said that Jesus is both the Son and The Holy Spirit

according to Cowboy there should only be two circles not Three circles...one circle for the Father and one circle for Jesus/Holy Spirit



Cowboy wrote:

Very good diagram, that's exactly what I been saying this whole time. To understand this, one can not personify "God". "God" is a title of authority. That is why Jesus said, your lord "Thy God". But even while Jesus was on the cross, he cried out "my God, my God "....




COWBOY.....GOD is NOT NOT NOT just some TITLE of Authority !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD IS A SUPREME BEING !!!!!

GOD IS A PERSONAL GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

THE WORD BECAME FLESH......AND DWELT AMONG US....MAKING

GOD A PERSONAL GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ONCE MORE......

GOD IS ONE SUPREME BEING ( CONSISTING OF 3 PERSONS,WHO MAKE UP

THAT ONE SUPREME BEING ,OR....ONE GOD OR...ONE ENTITY.........)

NOT JUST SOME TITLE !!!!!


MorningSong....you may not realize this but you are actually agreeing with Cowboy.....Cowboy refer to God as being a "title of authority" for the same reason you claim that God is a "person"...it's an attempt to hide the fact that you worship three seperate Gods

clearly Cowboy figured out by now that Christians think of God as being the creator of everything but yet he runs to Satan's Dictionary to get a definition that states that God is only a "title of authority"

and you MorningSong runs to Satan's website "gotquestions.com" which insist that the three trinity Gods are not three Gods or three entities but three "persons" ...you also should have figured out by now that Christians do not view God as being a "person"

why don't you guys just admit that you worship three seperate Gods.... the Greeks didn't have a problem with it ....

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