Topic: For JW Who Believe "Jesus Christ is not God"
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Sun 10/02/11 01:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/02/11 01:50 PM
Some remarks on Morningsong's long blue post defending a brutal "god."

Amazingly, God chose not to destroy the Amalekites until some 400 years had elapsed from their first sinful actsagainst His people. Such an incredibly long period of time shows the patience of God and dispels any notion that God is quick tempered and rushes to judgment against those who are sinning before Him.


The absurd idea that God had his own "chosen people" does not make logical sense if everyone on earth actually did descend from the Ademic race. (Adam and Eve.)

So who were these other people? Whose people did they belong to? Who else was tampering with the genes of the primitive people of the earth.

News flash: Adam and Eve were NOT the first humans on earth. They were the perfect couple designed by "the gods" to have children and then send the out into the population of primitives to upgrade the gene pool.

BUT perhaps what ever alien god was in charge of that project had some competition. There were other genetic experiments going on around the earth.

There were other Gods tampering with the primitive humans on the earth which were basically thought of as primates or animals by this advanced race.

These advanced races (from space) were tampering with all of the humans on the earth and they all had their "own people."

If you read the Uranita book you will learn a lot of the details about these beings and how they routinely practiced genocide of people's they felt were "mistakes" or "inferior" or "evil." The practice of genocide and slavery is a way of life for this advanced civilization.

They depict themselves as Gods.

Read the Urantia Book here. I believe it is a channeled book.

http://urantiabook.org/newbook/index.html

Read about the Lucifer Rebellion here:


http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p053.htm

Mind you, even though I believe this is a channeled book and that there is a lot of 'information' in it, it is basically very slanted lie, in that they do depict themselves as Gods.

The creator Gods they talk about feel they have the right and the power to destroy their creations and commit genocide.

Genocide is still a common practice even today by certain powerful factions living on this earth.











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Sun 10/02/11 01:49 PM

Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People claim to "love" Jesus and I know they have never met the man. They love the idea of perfection and they love the promise of eternal life.

If Jesus is God or represents God and God is Love then what people love is LOVE.

Its very simple.





I love Jesus and appreciate the gift he has given. I'm thankful for the gift he's given. But I love Jesus. I have met Jesus, I talk to him all the time. You should look him up, he's a really great guy.

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Sun 10/02/11 01:50 PM


Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People claim to "love" Jesus and I know they have never met the man. They love the idea of perfection and they love the promise of eternal life.

If Jesus is God or represents God and God is Love then what people love is LOVE.

Its very simple.





I love Jesus and appreciate the gift he has given. I'm thankful for the gift he's given. But I love Jesus. I have met Jesus, I talk to him all the time. You should look him up, he's a really great guy.


You met him in your imagination.

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Sun 10/02/11 01:54 PM



Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People claim to "love" Jesus and I know they have never met the man. They love the idea of perfection and they love the promise of eternal life.

If Jesus is God or represents God and God is Love then what people love is LOVE.

Its very simple.





I love Jesus and appreciate the gift he has given. I'm thankful for the gift he's given. But I love Jesus. I have met Jesus, I talk to him all the time. You should look him up, he's a really great guy.


You met him in your imagination.


No ma'am, I have a personal relationship with him. He walks beside me wherever I go. When I'm in troubled times, he's there beside me holding me up. When I'm in great joyful times, he's right there celebrating with me.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/02/11 02:06 PM




Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People claim to "love" Jesus and I know they have never met the man. They love the idea of perfection and they love the promise of eternal life.

If Jesus is God or represents God and God is Love then what people love is LOVE.

Its very simple.





I love Jesus and appreciate the gift he has given. I'm thankful for the gift he's given. But I love Jesus. I have met Jesus, I talk to him all the time. You should look him up, he's a really great guy.


You met him in your imagination.


No ma'am, I have a personal relationship with him. He walks beside me wherever I go. When I'm in troubled times, he's there beside me holding me up. When I'm in great joyful times, he's right there celebrating with me.


If you have actually done this to a point were you can see him, I'll bet no one else can see him.

(I could do the same with any imaginary friend I decide.) This is actually a function of the Pineal gland. It also is what creates our dreams, and allows people to do remote viewing, and out of body experiences.)

Some call it magic or conjuring.





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Sun 10/02/11 02:07 PM





Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People claim to "love" Jesus and I know they have never met the man. They love the idea of perfection and they love the promise of eternal life.

If Jesus is God or represents God and God is Love then what people love is LOVE.

Its very simple.





I love Jesus and appreciate the gift he has given. I'm thankful for the gift he's given. But I love Jesus. I have met Jesus, I talk to him all the time. You should look him up, he's a really great guy.


You met him in your imagination.


No ma'am, I have a personal relationship with him. He walks beside me wherever I go. When I'm in troubled times, he's there beside me holding me up. When I'm in great joyful times, he's right there celebrating with me.


If you have actually done this to a point were you can see him, I'll bet no one else can see him.

(I could do the same with any imaginary friend I decide.) This is actually a function of the Pineal gland. It also is what creates our dreams, and allows people to do remote viewing, and out of body experiences.)

Some call it magic.


Everyone that loves Jesus, see's Jesus and all his greatness.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:08 PM
Anyone can be convinced of seeing anything with hypnotism too.


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Sun 10/02/11 02:13 PM

Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People are often attracted to Christianity because they are attracted to the LOVE that Jesus taught.

Unfortunately they end up getting sucked into a religious cult that only uses Jesus as bait to get people to support religion bigotry, hatred against gays, the renunciation of scientific knowledge, etc.

It quickly moves from being about the LOVE that Jesus taught into being all about supporting a very INTOLERANT and unloving religion. ohwell


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Sun 10/02/11 02:20 PM


Just goes to show that they have no love for Jesus at all. All they are truly interested in is the eternal life that he supposedly offers as a GIFT.


This is true. People are often attracted to Christianity because they are attracted to the LOVE that Jesus taught.

Unfortunately they end up getting sucked into a religious cult that only uses Jesus as bait to get people to support religion bigotry, hatred against gays, the renunciation of scientific knowledge, etc.

It quickly moves from being about the LOVE that Jesus taught into being all about supporting a very INTOLERANT and unloving religion. ohwell




What are you talking about? There is no hatred against gays, nor do we "renounce" scientific knowledge.

The creation of the Earth eg., the "Theory of Evolution", is a THEORY. It's not a fact. It's a belief more or less.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:24 PM
What are you talking about? There is no hatred against gays, nor do we "renounce" scientific knowledge.



Why do you deny the obvious?

Christianity claims that gays are an abomination.
And they deny theories of evolution all the time.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:28 PM

What are you talking about? There is no hatred against gays, nor do we "renounce" scientific knowledge.



Why do you deny the obvious?

Christianity claims that gays are an abomination.
And they deny theories of evolution all the time.


"Gays" are not an abomination. A man sleeping with a man and a woman sleeping with a woman is an abomination. "Gays" have all the opportunity to repent of the sin which they involve themselves in.

Yes we deny the "theory" of evolution. A theory is nothing more then an educated guess. A theory is not a fact, that is why in itself is why it's called a theory instead of a fact.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:30 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/02/11 02:32 PM

What are you talking about? There is no hatred against gays, nor do we "renounce" scientific knowledge.



Why do you deny the obvious?

Christianity claims that gays are an abomination.
And they deny theories of evolution all the time.


"Gays" are not an abomination. A man sleeping with a man and a woman sleeping with a woman is an abomination.


Why do you think so? Details please.


"Gays" have all the opportunity to repent of the sin which they involve themselves in.


They are what they are. They are born that way. To do anything else is denying what they are.

Yes we deny the "theory" of evolution. A theory is nothing more then an educated guess. A theory is not a fact, that is why in itself is why it's called a theory instead of a fact.


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Sun 10/02/11 02:35 PM
All I can say for certain, Cowboy, is that I hope you eventually open your mind enough to actually learn something. Surely you won't go through your entire life thinking you know it all.

Good luck. You are going to need it.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:36 PM


What are you talking about? There is no hatred against gays, nor do we "renounce" scientific knowledge.



Why do you deny the obvious?

Christianity claims that gays are an abomination.
And they deny theories of evolution all the time.


"Gays" are not an abomination. A man sleeping with a man and a woman sleeping with a woman is an abomination.


Why do you think so? Details please.


"Gays" have all the opportunity to repent of the sin which they involve themselves in.


They are what they are. They are born that way. To do anything else is denying what they are.


Yes we deny the "theory" of evolution. A theory is nothing more then an educated guess. A theory is not a fact, that is why in itself is why it's called a theory instead of a fact.


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Why do you think so? Details please.



They are what they are. They are born that way. To do anything else is denying what they are.


No they aren't. Homosexuality in itself and or "gay" is the ACT of having sex with someone of the same gender. Being attracted to one of the same gender isn't "homosexual". That is not a choice, just naturally happens. Again, the actions that may come from those attractions is what is sinful.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:39 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/02/11 02:40 PM
Why are they sinful?

What two consenting adults do in private is no one's business. Not even "God."

What is a gay person supposed to do? Refrain from sex? Become a priest?


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Sun 10/02/11 02:39 PM

All I can say for certain, Cowboy, is that I hope you eventually open your mind enough to actually learn something. Surely you won't go through your entire life thinking you know it all.

Good luck. You are going to need it.


My mind is open, I've greatly weighed it all out. I'm not this way cause I was raised this way exactly. All I can say for certain, Jeaniebean, is that I hope you eventually open your mind enough to actually learn something. And I don't know everything, I'm learning more and more everyday.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:41 PM

Why are they sinful?

What two consenting adults do in private is no one's business. Not even "God."


"sex" is for reproduction.

Homosexuality has absolutely no positive aspect in it, except physical pleasure of oneself. Does not reproduce and causes many STD's.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:42 PM


All I can say for certain, Cowboy, is that I hope you eventually open your mind enough to actually learn something. Surely you won't go through your entire life thinking you know it all.

Good luck. You are going to need it.


My mind is open, I've greatly weighed it all out. I'm not this way cause I was raised this way exactly. All I can say for certain, Jeaniebean, is that I hope you eventually open your mind enough to actually learn something. And I don't know everything, I'm learning more and more everyday.


My mind is open. Wide open.

So far you come off as thinking you know everything or believing that everything you believe is right.

You are a babe in the woods, 24 years old. Been there.

You have a lot to learn.




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Sun 10/02/11 02:43 PM


Why are they sinful?

What two consenting adults do in private is no one's business. Not even "God."


"sex" is for reproduction.

Homosexuality has absolutely no positive aspect in it, except physical pleasure of oneself. Does not reproduce and causes many STD's.


Yes sex is for reproduction. The enjoyment part is the gift of God.

It is not a 'sin' to enjoy that.


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Sun 10/02/11 02:44 PM
In fact, I have forgotten more than you even know. laugh laugh