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Sun 12/06/09 10:04 PM

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. worked with Republicans. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King worked with Republicans. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon's 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation's fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that ****** preacher."

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy," which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.

Source(s):http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?i…


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Sun 12/06/09 10:16 PM

Nathan Bedford Forrest was not a democrat. He was the founder of the KKK.

So your whole cut and paste is not valid to our argument.

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Sun 12/06/09 10:19 PM


Nathan Bedford Forrest was not a democrat. He was the founder of the KKK.

So your whole cut and paste is not valid to our argument.


ooohhh it was absolutely a cut and paste but let me find that he was a registered democrat!

But thats all you got! I gave it, sourced it and thats your comeback???????

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Sun 12/06/09 10:21 PM
The cut and paste was biased so irrelavant and I stated that the KKK was not started by a democrat and I proved it.

That was our argument. And he was not a democrat.

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Sun 12/06/09 10:24 PM
As for your title, everyone was associated with slavery at the time...lol There was no monopoly on it.

The only for sure thing was the slave owners were not black and the slaves were black or oriental.

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Sun 12/06/09 10:30 PM
Edited by ronny4dating on Sun 12/06/09 10:31 PM
damn i wont argue anymore your not gonna admit your wrong but here is an actual interveiw with him!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Interview_with_Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

Nathan Bedford Forrest's own words! Geez democrats just won't admit when they are wrong, if you can't see your wrong There really is not anything left to say!frustrated rant rant rant

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Sun 12/06/09 10:33 PM
Damn how could anyone be a democrat after all that damnig eveidence! I mean the blood on the hands of Democrats.........WOW!

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Sun 12/06/09 10:37 PM

damn i wont argue anymore your not gonna admit your wrong but here is an actual interveiw with him!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Interview_with_Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

Nathan Bedford Forrest's own words! Geez democrats just won't admit when they are wrong, if you can't see your wrong There really is not anything left to say!frustrated rant rant rant


He did not say he was a democrat...lol

So you proved nothing yet again.

Why do you want to lie anyway?

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Sun 12/06/09 10:48 PM
Edited by ronny4dating on Sun 12/06/09 10:59 PM


damn i wont argue anymore your not gonna admit your wrong but here is an actual interveiw with him!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Interview_with_Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

Nathan Bedford Forrest's own words! Geez democrats just won't admit when they are wrong, if you can't see your wrong There really is not anything left to say!frustrated rant rant rant


He did not say he was a democrat...lol

So you proved nothing yet again.

Why do you want to lie anyway?


My word set down the koolaid for a second please! I quote!

Feeling towards Uncle Sam
"What are your feelings towards the federal government, general?"

"I loved the old government in 1861. I loved the old Constitution yet. I think it is the best government in the world, if administered as it was before the war. I do not hate it; I am opposing now only the radical revolutionists who are trying to destroy it. I believe that party to be composed, as I know it is in Tennessee, of the worst men on Gods earth-men who would not hesitate at no crime, and who have only one object in view-to enrich themselves."


Who could he possibly be talking about? Keep in mind he is a confederate General! Take a deep breath and except it! Do you want the actual registartion slip to know that he was a registered democrat? Evidence is just that evidence so who is lying? He says "that party" Which party is he refering to? The republican party obviously! The founder of the KKK you stated he was! A confederate general! so whom is he refering too? Who does the KKK founder mean when he says he hates that party? 2+2 equals 4 so you stop lying!

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Sun 12/06/09 10:53 PM

LMAO and there is more!



"Well, sir, there is such an organization, not only in Tennessee, but all over the South, and its numbers have not been exaggerated."

"What are its numbers, general?"

"In Tennessee there are over 40,000; in all the Southern states they number about 550,000 men."

"What is the character of the organization; May I inquire?"

"Yes, sir. It is a protective political military organization. I am willing to show any man the constitution of the society. The members are sworn to recognize the government of the United States. It does not say anything at all about the government of Tennessee. Its objects originally were protection against Loyal Leagues and the Grand Army of the Republic; but after it became general it was found that political matters and interests could best be promoted within it,

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and it was then made a political organization, giving it support, of course, to the democratic party."
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"But is the organization connected throughout the state?"

"Yes, it is. In each voting precinct there is a captain, who, in addition to his other duties, is required to make out a list of names of men in his precinct, giving all the radicals and all the democrats who are positively known, and showing also the doubtful on both sides and of both colors. This list of names is forwarded to the grand commander of the State, who is thus enabled to know are our friends and who are not."

"Can you, or are you at liberty to give me the name of the commanding officer of this State?"

"No, it would be impolitic."

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Sun 12/06/09 10:57 PM
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Sun 12/06/09 11:03 PM

damn i wont argue anymore your not gonna admit your wrong but here is an actual interveiw with him!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Interview_with_Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

Nathan Bedford Forrest's own words! Geez democrats just won't admit when they are wrong, if you can't see your wrong There really is not anything left to say!frustrated rant rant rant

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Sun 12/06/09 11:15 PM
Edited by ronny4dating on Sun 12/06/09 11:15 PM


damn i wont argue anymore your not gonna admit your wrong but here is an actual interveiw with him!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Interview_with_Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

Nathan Bedford Forrest's own words! Geez democrats just won't admit when they are wrong, if you can't see your wrong There really is not anything left to say!frustrated rant rant rant



Yeah i know, but she didn't read it and lied and said she did and then called me a liar so i had to prove i was not lying someone else was!

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Sun 12/06/09 11:27 PM
I am a 'black' woman and a democrat. To answer why I would vote democrat considering their history is like asking me why I would marry a white man(which I did) considering the history of whites in this country. There are those on both sides,, dem and republican who have tried to champion civil rights AND those who have tried to obstruct it,, neither party has enough of a monopoly on anti or pro black positions for me to decide current issues on their history.

I was born in 1969. I first started to vote in 1987. Since I began voting,,I have voted for both republicans and democrats in local elections(depending upon the better candidate), I also vote the same for presidents and it happens to be that the democratic candidate seemed the better choice for me since 1987. To state that one is a democrat or a republican does not mean(I hope) that they have prejudice against those labeling themselves differently. It is an alignment of what appears to be the philosophy of the party at any particular time in history. In my lifetime, Democrats have seem to run more on a community platform and repubs on an individual one. I am someone who believes strongly in having strong communities so I align with democrats but that in no way means that a republican candidate who seemed concerned with community would not get my vote.

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Mon 12/07/09 12:27 AM

I am a 'black' woman and a democrat. To answer why I would vote democrat considering their history is like asking me why I would marry a white man(which I did) considering the history of whites in this country. There are those on both sides,, dem and republican who have tried to champion civil rights AND those who have tried to obstruct it,, neither party has enough of a monopoly on anti or pro black positions for me to decide current issues on their history.

I was born in 1969. I first started to vote in 1987. Since I began voting,,I have voted for both republicans and democrats in local elections(depending upon the better candidate), I also vote the same for presidents and it happens to be that the democratic candidate seemed the better choice for me since 1987. To state that one is a democrat or a republican does not mean(I hope) that they have prejudice against those labeling themselves differently. It is an alignment of what appears to be the philosophy of the party at any particular time in history. In my lifetime, Democrats have seem to run more on a community platform and repubs on an individual one. I am someone who believes strongly in having strong communities so I align with democrats but that in no way means that a republican candidate who seemed concerned with community would not get my vote.




You Know i understand that and it makes sense! I just wanted to bring to the forefront the actual history of the civil rights struggle. Republicans get a bad rap and democrats get a free ride. I was married to a woman that was part black and all my children are part black.... I don't mention it much because in my case as a white conservative it comes across as justifying my position and i want my opinion to stand on merit not my family. But in the case of this point i have made you have to admit these are not well known facts, nor are they reported well. But speaking of political platforms, yes they change but the GOP was founded on a platform of abolishing slavery as the number one priotity! Thats what the documents show, now where they all non-racists...ofcourse not because in those days even the abolishnists did not see blacks as equal but it's a stark contrast to what the democrats saw blacks as! Not only that when people speak of our founders and their affiliations to slavery they don't put into context political will! Nor do they put into context the inherit racism that took centuries to overcome! If when they read history they actually tried to put social environments into context they may learn more. I am not justifying but you have to admit the threat of death for going against the status quo is quite a motivation!

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Mon 12/07/09 12:29 AM
It never hurts to learn more, we just must be careful not to lump everyone as the same(especially when we only get two choices,basically).

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Mon 12/07/09 12:39 AM

It never hurts to learn more, we just must be careful not to lump everyone as the same(especially when we only get two choices,basically).


Yes i understand... I am a conservative not a republican! I get lumped in with that guy BUSH and i disagreed with him although not for being a conservative but for being a liberal. I have to admit though I agree with democrats on almost nothing! Maybe ol' Dennis, I like him and sometimes they do have some veiws on liberty that i agree with. But i am without a party as a conservative, we have Ron Paul but he is a bit crazy and we have Tom McClintock but he always loses! I have to admit I really do not like many democrat politicians to the point of loathing......Barney Frank OH MY that guy is a complete PIMP and people still vote for him! I don't mean PIMP in a good term either I mean CROOK! But I do beleive in the actual Republican platform they just don't follow it, NEVER!

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Mon 12/07/09 12:44 AM


It never hurts to learn more, we just must be careful not to lump everyone as the same(especially when we only get two choices,basically).


Yes i understand... I am a conservative not a republican! I get lumped in with that guy BUSH and i disagreed with him although not for being a conservative but for being a liberal. I have to admit though I agree with democrats on almost nothing! Maybe ol' Dennis, I like him and sometimes they do have some veiws on liberty that i agree with. But i am without a party as a conservative, we have Ron Paul but he is a bit crazy and we have Tom McClintock but he always loses! I have to admit I really do not like many democrat politicians to the point of loathing......Barney Frank OH MY that guy is a complete PIMP and people still vote for him! I don't mean PIMP in a good term either I mean CROOK! But I do beleive in the actual Republican platform they just don't follow it, NEVER!



Lol,,I would never put you in a box and wont hold your republican status against you. A little advice though, dont waste energy despising people you dont really know, with much power, usually comes a little sacrifice so none of our politicians are gonna be perfect.

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Mon 12/07/09 01:03 AM



It never hurts to learn more, we just must be careful not to lump everyone as the same(especially when we only get two choices,basically).


Yes i understand... I am a conservative not a republican! I get lumped in with that guy BUSH and i disagreed with him although not for being a conservative but for being a liberal. I have to admit though I agree with democrats on almost nothing! Maybe ol' Dennis, I like him and sometimes they do have some veiws on liberty that i agree with. But i am without a party as a conservative, we have Ron Paul but he is a bit crazy and we have Tom McClintock but he always loses! I have to admit I really do not like many democrat politicians to the point of loathing......Barney Frank OH MY that guy is a complete PIMP and people still vote for him! I don't mean PIMP in a good term either I mean CROOK! But I do beleive in the actual Republican platform they just don't follow it, NEVER!



Lol,,I would never put you in a box and wont hold your republican status against you. A little advice though, dont waste energy despising people you dont really know, with much power, usually comes a little sacrifice so none of our politicians are gonna be perfect.



yes good politicians compromise, I know. i just do not like it! lol....

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Mon 12/07/09 04:13 AM
Compromise, as in, becoming allies with Communists, bail out the rich because they mismanaged. Is compromising, flat out lying?


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