yes i clearly understand your version of history is far more accurate than the documented evidence i understand sir! its cool there is no point in furthering the discussion without sourceing your infromation!

I guess from your attitude that I won that argument.
So are you ready to discuss the 2008 Presidential elections?

I think you'll be surprise to find out the states that supported McCain are a majority of southern states whose representation is now predominately republican!

There never would have been a Civil War, as most southern states didn't secede from the Union until Fed troops attacked Ft Sumpter.

Well yes once the issue of slavery reached a point where government enforcemnet was needed war did not break out...lol

The North did not outlaw slavery at the beginning of the civil war.
The emancipation proclamation wasnt until 1863, two years into the war.

Yes, inacting laws take time especially when the country is torn down the middle...haha laughable!


It wasn't until 1865, when the war was over, that slavery was abolished.
If the war was about slavery why did it take the North so long?

Well the north was focused on the actual war and getting control of the south before enacting laws that primarly needed to take place in the south where the majority of slaves where keep in mind slavery in the north was not really a problem since there where many free blacks but the laws changed that southerns started hiring bounty hunters

Sources?
My education. If you doubt it then explain on which point and I'll try to help.
Of course I won't be able to and be as brief as your opening post.

your education is relevent to a bias and try and do research to confirm your position and you find your eduaction is inaccurate then

Is this what is called a shred?

You want accurate sources?

Quit looking in the Repub blogs.

I'll give you some but they won't be blogs with abbreviated one page biased essays.

It's impossible to have an intelligent debate on such an abbreviated post with so many misrepresented ideas as the op post.
Not in a post 1000 times as long.

The length and brevity of the post is evidence of it's inaccuracy and bias content.

Let's start with 1854,

The Republican party was founded in an attempt to break a series of ties within congress. Not slavery, but one more aligned with the Industrial North's attempts to gain Fed funding for road, bridge, and dock improvements. Improvements the Agricultural south thought was a waste of Fed taxes and sure to cause tax increases among all Americans. Yet funding that did not benefit the south.

The impression you get is an excuse they used to gain congressional members to win the funding.

You've shown nothing.
your opening post states,

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors.

LOL
I proved this abbreviated and one sided statement is what it is. Abbreviated and biased.

You can check the info I gave about the votes at the congressional records web site, or any history book!

You see you leaving out a key factor! Why did the north lack the equality monatarily? Slavery, Free labor! The South had free labor and yes the north was willing to turn a blind eye as long as the south didnt push the issue, but it came to a point where economics would not allow and yes it had everything to do with slavery! damn just dunking on you!

Your source,
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There's fair and accurate reporting!

The South took pride in being self sufficient.
The North wanted free handouts.
They wanted all Americans, Northern and Southern, to pay for the improvements only they needed for their industrial economy.

The Republican Party was an after thought. A bunch of oppurtunist who started a third Party.
Lincoln wasn't even on the ballots in the south.
By not being Lincoln was able to take the electorial vote. With only 40% of the popular vote.

okay

I'm still trying to figure out how McCain won Miss, LA, Ark, and SC with an avg of 20% of the popular vote.
When those states have a very high population of black American voters.
I know they have Republican Govs, but did they possibly suppress the black vote?

slavery = self sufficieny interesting