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Topic: The Rapture Hmmmm
feralcatlady's photo
Sun 07/27/08 04:15 PM


no sweetie.....it will not be the weapons of mass destruction that will be our demise.....I will always have Faith I know it's coming....I know what it means for me.......I know what it means for you.....thats why I am sad.....that's why I want people to get a clue.....Just say for arguments sake that it happen tomorrow.......just say...don't get all bent here.......What makes me the saddest of all....is the people who will say damn it was true.......thats what makes me sad......I always look at it like.....What do you have to loose....but all you could gain...Where you are stubborn and say no......why funch why?


because 'Feralcatlady" multitude of others have say the same thing that you are saying thousands of years ago but yet the Earth remains .. I heard a rumor once that everyone dies so what different would it make if God took your life or it you get hit by a milk truck while crossing the street ....



Did I say anything about the earth going anywhere......All the people will be judged dead or alive....all will stand in front of God when the Judgement book is opened...I don't harp on death....I am not afraid of death....I agree funch you never know when your time comes......but it's after your time on earth........

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Sun 07/27/08 04:29 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 07/27/08 04:30 PM

Did I say anything about the earth going anywhere......All the people will be judged dead or alive....all will stand in front of God when the Judgement book is opened...I don't harp on death....I am not afraid of death....I agree funch you never know when your time comes......but it's after your time on earth........


as for being Judged by God.. since God is supposely omniscient therefore all-knowing then he have already judged you before he even created creation or created you ..so why worry about it


davidben1's photo
Sun 07/27/08 05:11 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 07/27/08 05:19 PM
any that believe the truth shall come and vindicate ONE RELIGION, shall be the last to taste of all good, and rather taste most of all the damnation they have seen and spoken for all others, thur eyes that seek to vindicate oneself and be lifted up and saved.......

what that love say save me, and sorry the world must die, but it is their fault, and thats really too bad, and it makes my heart weep, with tears of agony, but i have believed so i shall be saved, and even get to wear a crown, and walk streets of gold, and i shall have eternal life........

the stench of deception and greed and self adulation rises to the heavens, and indeed, the births of any hell created by these minds shall come and only be tasted by such as these, but indeed, it shall bring profit, as each shall see that for power to be given, one must first come to despise power, and the responsibility that comes with it, or none is fit to have it, as they would rule with the same spirit that is spoken from here, that would have millions die, for the sake of oneself to live, for the true spirit of god is not willing any should perish, so these having the same spirit will not allow such things, as who create and see a truth that damn the world, except perception that seek to gain for itself........

indeed, this same spirit seems to have killed millions at one time, and the name of the man that lived with that spirit was hitler, and the spirit that speak here will try to create the same again............

this be nothing more than a spirit of fear of what is to come, and fear has percieved and heard all, and interpreted all thru fear, which make for a fearful and damning story, and this shall make one hold harder to what is believed save oneself, hardening the heart because of fear, and this spirit is accursed, and is of the perception of a fearful mind that seek to save itself, and this mind create all things self saving fear creates..........hell on earth

what happen if many have fear of doom, and think themself to be saved........

will not these at the first sight of what be doom save themselves, and run in fright, and create havoc even for those that seek to save others, and not themself......

these be the first to run in fear of any disator, and what that know god proclaim themself as saved......

does not love rush all others to safety first, as love cannot help but to do this, so it is easy to see who care not that many shall die, shall die themself, if any do..........

but indeed, any that profess this be what they would do will not, as wisdom of the wise heart see it knows nothing of itself, until any situation arrives........

the spirit of self holiness cannot decieve any wise, as any so called wicked does not judge others as less equal, even if they believe differently, and live and let live all others, and is willing that even a "christian" die, but rather it be many that profess themself a christian, only for what the book says it give them, that is willing any should die but themself, and life is disposable with no problem for the wicked, but even the wicked find it easy to see that EACH human be worth a million lands, but indeed, a spirit of holiness will come and seek to kill and maime and destroy life, to claw it's way to the top, and save itself........

if one is not willing another should persih, and god is not willing, then the whole truth if one believe in the god of the bible must be one that show how none shall perish UNLESS they SEEK self holiness, self saving, self reward, self adulation, self power, self goodness, self praise, self glory, self wisdom..........peace


davidben1's photo
Sun 07/27/08 05:14 PM


Did I say anything about the earth going anywhere......All the people will be judged dead or alive....all will stand in front of God when the Judgement book is opened...I don't harp on death....I am not afraid of death....I agree funch you never know when your time comes......but it's after your time on earth........


as for being Judged by God.. since God is supposely omniscient therefore all-knowing then he have already judged you before he even created creation or created you ..so why worry about it




indeed, wisdom that speak, and be called as unwisdom from so called wisdom.......

the judgement book opened be the book of mens minds, the books of each life, opened, and if there be self saving in there, peek-a-boo.....

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Sun 07/27/08 05:46 PM


Of all of your words...

None could reach so profoundly as these, cat lady:

"I pray for people to open their eyes....to open their ears....TO MOST IMPORTANT OPEN THEIR HEARTS......"



Hi spelendid....and ty.....and for making me cry......I have been doing that a lot today.......I think the Lord has a grasp on my heart today......


Hi Kitty...

In order have an open heart, first I agree that I know nothing. I have nothing to fight for or be right about. The source is what I hope to be close to... Not the collection of data or proof of anything.

Clueless and Lovin' It!

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Mon 07/28/08 08:10 AM



Of all of your words...

None could reach so profoundly as these, cat lady:

"I pray for people to open their eyes....to open their ears....TO MOST IMPORTANT OPEN THEIR HEARTS......"



Hi spelendid....and ty.....and for making me cry......I have been doing that a lot today.......I think the Lord has a grasp on my heart today......


Hi Kitty...

In order have an open heart, first I agree that I know nothing. I have nothing to fight for or be right about. The source is what I hope to be close to... Not the collection of data or proof of anything.

Clueless and Lovin' It!


wisdom of sight come forth from the heart of each being and speak as such.......

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Mon 07/28/08 08:17 AM
Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.

davidben1's photo
Mon 07/28/08 08:51 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Mon 07/28/08 08:51 AM

Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.


understanding was spoken of in all text, but fearful self seeking perception has preached many half-truths, and what is anything that does not contain all the truth?

tribo's photo
Mon 07/28/08 09:37 AM


Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.


understanding was spoken of in all text, but fearful self seeking perception has preached many half-truths, and what is anything that does not contain all the truth?


then all is nothing.

davidben1's photo
Mon 07/28/08 09:45 AM



Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.


understanding was spoken of in all text, but fearful self seeking perception has preached many half-truths, and what is anything that does not contain all the truth?


then all is nothing.


when one reaches all is nothing, then everything come in haste, or there is no truth.........

tribo's photo
Mon 07/28/08 09:54 AM




Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.


understanding was spoken of in all text, but fearful self seeking perception has preached many half-truths, and what is anything that does not contain all the truth?


then all is nothing.


when one reaches all is nothing, then everything come in haste, or there is no truth.........


what is truth

davidben1's photo
Mon 07/28/08 12:53 PM





Every time you understand something, religion becomes less likely.
...Francis Crick.


understanding was spoken of in all text, but fearful self seeking perception has preached many half-truths, and what is anything that does not contain all the truth?


then all is nothing.


when one reaches all is nothing, then everything come in haste, or there is no truth.........


what is truth




is not truth infintite, as what could it be more except the understanding of the PURPOSE of all things that happen at each second?

what can unlock this but true self honesty?

would not each being hooked up to a lie detector test for all answers about oneself, with a trap door that loved ones fall thru to hell if one lies, bring about more truth, lol........


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Mon 07/28/08 01:08 PM
Edited by tribo on Mon 07/28/08 01:10 PM
DB:

is not truth infinite, as what could it be more except the understanding of the PURPOSE of all things that happen at each second?


Tribo:

truth is not a substance, it is a concept of beings that feel that this is needed for understanding what is right or correct as compared to untruth. a moral intellectual comparative.

It is no more "eternal" than love, mercy, or other such comparatives. any truth resides in the mind of the thinker being only, nothing can be proven beyond that with out a doubt.

No one will ever understand the purpose of all things, or the whys and hows of all things.

DB:

what can unlock this but true self honesty?


tribo:

what is true self honesty?


DB:

would not each being hooked up to a lie detector test for all answers about oneself, with a trap door that loved ones fall thru to hell if one lies, bring about more truth, lol........

TRIBO:

no more than if a liar were hooked up to a like contraption and told his enemies were going to heaven.

if there is ultimate truth it doesnot reside inside of man but outside, man can not be trusted in things of truth.

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Mon 07/28/08 01:20 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/28/08 01:24 PM
would not each being hooked up to a lie detector test for all answers about oneself, with a trap door that loved ones fall thru to hell if one lies, bring about more truth, lol........


Not to change the subject about 'truth' but there is no such thing as a 'lie detector test.'

The polygraph is a contraption that can be completely manipulated by the persons hooked up to one and they are used in an elaborate con by professionally trained interrogators.

Questions can be misinterpreted, readings can be misinterpreted and manipulated. That is why they are not admissible in court. You should never take one before you read the book "The Lie behind the Lie Detector" by George W. Maschke and Gino J. Scalabrini.

If you tell the authorities you have read this book they will not even bother to offer or give you the test because the book tells you exactly how to lie to the lie detector and make it look like you are telling the truth.

Never let yourself be interrogated without a lawyer rather you are innocent or guilty.

p.s. This book is a free download. Just do a search for it.

JB

tribo's photo
Mon 07/28/08 01:27 PM

would not each being hooked up to a lie detector test for all answers about oneself, with a trap door that loved ones fall thru to hell if one lies, bring about more truth, lol........


Not to change the subject about 'truth' but there is no such thing as a 'lie detector test.'

The polygraph is a contraption that can be completely manipulated by the persons hooked up to one and they are used in an elaborate con by professionally trained interrogators.

Questions can be misinterpreted, readings can be misinterpreted and manipulated. That is why they are not admissible in court. You should never take one before you read the book "The Lie behind the Lie Detector" by George W. Maschke and Gino J. Scalabrini.

If you tell the authorities you have read this book they will not even bother to offer or give you the test because the book tells you exactly how to lie to the lie detector and make it look like you are telling the truth.

Never let yourself be interrogated without a lawyer rather you are innocent or guilty.

p.s. This book is a free download. Just do a search for it.

JB


thats why i stated it was a "contraption" hahaha hmmm?? sounds like you may have expierience with this - is there something you want to confess? hahaha ooops no lawyer there with youslaphead - sorry i will wait.ohwell

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Mon 07/28/08 01:29 PM
I worked as a private Investigator in Colorado Springs.

Besides I watch a lot of Law and Order. LOL

JB

tribo's photo
Mon 07/28/08 01:31 PM

I worked as a private Investigator in Colorado Springs.

Besides I watch a lot of Law and Order. LOL

JB


have not seen that i watch the new series - crime and disorder though - :tongue:

davidben1's photo
Mon 07/28/08 01:57 PM

DB:

is not truth infinite, as what could it be more except the understanding of the PURPOSE of all things that happen at each second?


Tribo:

truth is not a substance, it is a concept of beings that feel that this is needed for understanding what is right or correct as compared to untruth. a moral intellectual comparative.

It is no more "eternal" than love, mercy, or other such comparatives. any truth resides in the mind of the thinker being only, nothing can be proven beyond that with out a doubt.

No one will ever understand the purpose of all things, or the whys and hows of all things.

DB:

what can unlock this but true self honesty?


tribo:

what is true self honesty?


DB:

would not each being hooked up to a lie detector test for all answers about oneself, with a trap door that loved ones fall thru to hell if one lies, bring about more truth, lol........

TRIBO:

no more than if a liar were hooked up to a like contraption and told his enemies were going to heaven.

if there is ultimate truth it doesnot reside inside of man but outside, man can not be trusted in things of truth.



tribo.......could not agree more emphatically that truth is not a substance, but rather a understanding of all purposes, which cannot be contained as one certain truth, or as memory, or as a constant state...........

if the body grow each day without conscious thought or will, and the mind operate without any conscious power willed to keep it running, then the subconscious that provide all these functions, without any help from the conscious mind, can also see more if the conscious mind stop trying to control and decide what all things be, as true or untrue......

indeed, it can never be willed to know the purpose of all things, agreed totally, but the subconscious mind can decern all things, as the conscious observe.......if the subconscious know how with precision and detail to work and operate every funtion of the body in harmony, without any conscious effort, then it also has much more power than the conscious mind which only be an observer of things, and thinking it has the greatest power, seeks to control, and even control all others then likewise, but to stop this war of oneself, of seeking to divide all tings as true and untrue, brought on by believing the wisdom of observation of the conscious mind, can indeed unlock potential far greater then ever previously known........

what did einstein listen to more, the conscious mind or subconscious that whisper all things of wisdom......

did not his infinite wealth of information come thru his portal or subconscious mind, working together BY SEEING OBSERVATIONS AS QUESTIONS, INSTEAD OF WISDOM, and by seeking to PROVE ALL THINGS AS TRUE.......

does not any good scientist seek most to prove all as true, and NEVER discounts one possiblitity, by saying what is true or not true?

a mind that seek to decern what be truth or untruth will always come up empty handed, as personal agenda of feelings, of love and fear and want, will then always be entered into any conclusion.....

how could this process of developing a sharper picture and bigger picture not start by performing this within onself first?????

this would be where and why self honesty come into play, and what can be more self honesty than seeking to prove what the conscious mind say of oneself as true, instead of untrue, as each human doing many good acts and bad acts each day, so proof to tell oneself they are not what their conscious mind whisper can always be found, which cut off ones own wisdom of greater sight to see out thru, from within, to accept all things from the outside, and see ALL AS TRUTH, and to look to see what is true or not true leave one finding only what is most sought, and indeed, this perception is not trustworthy at all..........

what can find the purpose of anything that does not believe first it can be had?





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Mon 07/28/08 02:49 PM

I worked as a private Investigator in Colorado Springs.

Besides I watch a lot of Law and Order. LOL

JB


in the criminal justice system
the people are represented by
two seperate but equally important groups

the "JennieBean' that investigate the crimes
and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders

these are their stories
dung longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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Mon 07/28/08 03:07 PM


I worked as a private Investigator in Colorado Springs.

Besides I watch a lot of Law and Order. LOL

JB


in the criminal justice system
the people are represented by
two seperate but equally important groups

the "JennieBean' that investigate the crimes
and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders

these are their stories
dung longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg


laugh laugh laugh laugh I see you watch it.

Actually I did not investigate crimes. I located missing persons, missing pets, served court papers, did background checks, some surveillance, did skip tracing, and we helped a lot of people who were in trouble to get out of it, and worked on divorce cases.

JB


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