Topic: Does the punishment fit the crime?
Thomas27's photo
Thu 05/22/08 07:41 PM


I'd say, that graduating high school is one of the greatest achievements one can make and also one of the most important things one can do this day and time. It is truly a time to celebrate! One should celebrate! Celebration usually brings with it silly behavior and rituals! Throwing water balloons, painting the street and other things people wouldn't normally do on a daily basis. When I was in school, we still received three licks with a paddle! I guess I would gladly trade three licks for a few water balloons thrown at my teachers! It's when you deny people so simple as walking down that aisle with their fellow classmates, that brings on violent behavior! They earned that right for years of hard work and effort! Maybe those kids punishment should be to build a hanging platform for that teacher/principal out in the school yard for all to see!

When I was in the Navy and crossed the equator, we had a ceremony where a lot of hazing took place. Although hazing isn't tolerated in the military these days, it is for this occasion. Ranks mean nothing! You get more than a little wet! It is a fun time! Through all that, I can now proudly say that I'm a Shellback! (look it up if you want)

All I saying, is that given the circumstances, there should be exceptions to the rule!




I'm a Shellback too! glasses



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No1sLove's photo
Thu 05/22/08 07:50 PM
Edited by No1sLove on Thu 05/22/08 07:50 PM

the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless jobs, or suit and tie as well as responsibilities. Teacher no longer love the children they teach it seems, and have lost their passion for the job they supposedly love. You wonder why kids snap? That kind of pressure is unreasonable, and selfish of an adult in that position
Wow...you got me. When you put it that way I can't disagree. Now I feel bad. frown

Anyone aiming at a teacher would have been strung up in my school, and in my fathers house too. Am I stuck in the way of thinking that I always resented as a child? OMG! I suppose I am jealous. flowerforyou

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 07:51 PM


the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless jobs, or suit and tie as well as responsibilities. Teacher no longer love the children they teach it seems, and have lost their passion for the job they supposedly love. You wonder why kids snap? That kind of pressure is unreasonable, and selfish of an adult in that position
Wow...you got me. When you put it that way I can't disagree. Now I feel bad. frown

Anyone aiming at a teacher would have been strung up in my school, and in my fathers house too. Am I stuck in the way of thinking that I always resented as a child? OMG! I suppose I am jealous. flowerforyou
sorry you had an oppressive childhood.

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Thu 05/22/08 08:04 PM


the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless


what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple...

No1sLove's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:08 PM
Edited by No1sLove on Thu 05/22/08 08:11 PM



the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless jobs, or suit and tie as well as responsibilities. Teacher no longer love the children they teach it seems, and have lost their passion for the job they supposedly love. You wonder why kids snap? That kind of pressure is unreasonable, and selfish of an adult in that position
Wow...you got me. When you put it that way I can't disagree. Now I feel bad. frown

Anyone aiming at a teacher would have been strung up in my school, and in my fathers house too. Am I stuck in the way of thinking that I always resented as a child? OMG! I suppose I am jealous. flowerforyou
sorry you had an oppressive childhood.
Geez...we didn't think of it like that. Strict for sure. noway Would you have been allowed to throw water balloons at teachers?

My bad...misread. Never mind.

Thomas27's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:09 PM



the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless


what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple...


I think your an idiot too! That's not an attack, unless your six years old and playing Army men in the backyard or something. They didn't throw them at the teachers, the teachers just got wet from the busting balloons.

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Thu 05/22/08 08:11 PM




the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless


what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple...


I think your an idiot too! That's not an attack, unless your six years old and playing Army men in the backyard or something. They didn't throw them at the teachers, the teachers just got wet from the busting balloons.


well obviously violent outbursts are normal for you...as is evidence by your witty remark and carefully thought out assessment of me and my comments.

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:13 PM



the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless


what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple...
wow, I thought I was a harsh person. I threw bisuits on police cars, as well as moon pies as they passed by. I used to take musical greeting cards apart and hide the internals in a teachers desk so it would aggravate them all day. I put shaving cream under the door handles of their cars, vaselined doorknobs, vaselined toilet seats, put pingpong balls in the toilets, itching powder in the toilet paper, and put plastic wrap over the toilet, and under the toilet seat. Yes, I deserved the firing squad for my "disresepct" as a child. Worse that ever happened to me was a paddling from the principal. You guys strive to make people grow up too fast, and take a period of time away from them that they will never be able to relive. I cannot believe you guys are so harsh about childhood mishchief that doesnt create any bodily harm

No1sLove's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:14 PM
Edited by No1sLove on Thu 05/22/08 08:15 PM


wow, I thought I was a harsh person. I threw bisuits on police cars, as well as moon pies as they passed by. I used to take musical greeting cards apart and hide the internals in a teachers desk so it would aggravate them all day. I put shaving cream under the door handles of their cars, vaselined doorknobs, vaselined toilet seats, put pingpong balls in the toilets, itching powder in the toilet paper, and put plastic wrap over the toilet, and under the toilet seat. Yes, I deserved the firing squad for my "disresepct" as a child. Worse that ever happened to me was a paddling from the principal. You guys strive to make people grow up too fast, and take a period of time away from them that they will never be able to relive. I cannot believe you guys are so harsh about childhood mishchief that doesnt create any bodily harm
You're serious? OMG laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Thomas27's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:17 PM





the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless


what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple...


I think your an idiot too! That's not an attack, unless your six years old and playing Army men in the backyard or something. They didn't throw them at the teachers, the teachers just got wet from the busting balloons.


well obviously violent outbursts are normal for you...as is evidence by your witty remark and carefully thought out assessment of me and my comments.

obviously so, but that wasn't a violent outburst. read the post post about throwing a chair at the boss, that was a violent outburst!

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:18 PM



wow, I thought I was a harsh person. I threw bisuits on police cars, as well as moon pies as they passed by. I used to take musical greeting cards apart and hide the internals in a teachers desk so it would aggravate them all day. I put shaving cream under the door handles of their cars, vaselined doorknobs, vaselined toilet seats, put pingpong balls in the toilets, itching powder in the toilet paper, and put plastic wrap over the toilet, and under the toilet seat. Yes, I deserved the firing squad for my "disresepct" as a child. Worse that ever happened to me was a paddling from the principal. You guys strive to make people grow up too fast, and take a period of time away from them that they will never be able to relive. I cannot believe you guys are so harsh about childhood mishchief that doesnt create any bodily harm
You're serious? OMG laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
f'ing a right I am serious

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Thu 05/22/08 08:19 PM
the point here is being held accountable for your actions, something that Ive read time and again (on this site and others) people complaining is sorley missing today.
People do things and then whine and mope (or get a lawyer) till they get out of having to take responsibility for what they did.
There are ways of enjoying childhood that do not include disrespecting the people around you.
huh

Thomas27's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:22 PM
What did you do as a senior that you didn't get punished for, but should have?

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:23 PM

the point here is being held accountable for your actions, something that Ive read time and again (on this site and others) people complaining is sorley missing today.
People do things and then whine and mope (or get a lawyer) till they get out of having to take responsibility for what they did.
There are ways of enjoying childhood that do not include disrespecting the people around you.
huh
being held accountable is far different from robbing people of a once in a lifetime occurrance. Make them clean up the ceremony mess, give them some kind of punishment, but this is nothing more than a power trip. I am not saying to not hold them accountable, but this is far from a reaonable response. Hell there are thieves who get less punishment than this

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:24 PM

What did you do as a senior that you didn't get punished for, but should have?
nothing, these people were born senior citizens

Thomas27's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:25 PM


What did you do as a senior that you didn't get punished for, but should have?
nothing, these people were born senior citizens

laugh

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Thu 05/22/08 08:32 PM
Edited by symbelmyne on Thu 05/22/08 08:33 PM



What did you do as a senior that you didn't get punished for, but should have?

nothing, these people were born senior citizens


you defend the actions of these kids to justify your own unruly behavior at that age. Clearly you are not objective enough to comment in any other fashion but to fall back on the "kids will be kids" argument. After all, you got to have "a bit of fun", why cant they?
Its regrettable, since that kind of attitude does more harm than good for young people today.

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:38 PM
Edited by Single_Rob on Thu 05/22/08 08:39 PM
that is the most feeble rebuttle I have ever heard in my life. I do not have to justify anything I have done in my life to you, or anyone else. How fricken conceited are you. I am pretty gosh darn successful. I have a very successful business, I have great friends, and I can have anything tangible I desire. You make it sound as if these kids are bad kids because of childhood antics, I got news for you maybe you should have had some yourself. Jury of their peers my azz

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Fri 05/23/08 06:15 AM




It has nothing to do about the water. It has to do with there lack of respect for those teachers. Throwing the water balloons at one another is one thing, but they intentionally threw them at the teachers, which shows their lack of respect for authority.






No it really doesn't necessarily mean they had total disrespect for their teachers, although they probably do after the fact! The fact that they didn't actually hit the teachers directly with the balloons shows me that they did in fact have some respect for their teachers!


Sorry, but I see it differently. It just shows me that there aim was bad.


Man didn't you ever thow a water ballon at your Mom's feet? Something to splash her, but not soak her? If they wanted to nail a teacher, it would have been raining ballons not just one or two.

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Fri 05/23/08 06:33 AM





It has nothing to do about the water. It has to do with there lack of respect for those teachers. Throwing the water balloons at one another is one thing, but they intentionally threw them at the teachers, which shows their lack of respect for authority.








No it really doesn't necessarily mean they had total disrespect for their teachers, although they probably do after the fact! The fact that they didn't actually hit the teachers directly with the balloons shows me that they did in fact have some respect for their teachers!


Sorry, but I see it differently. It just shows me that there aim was bad.


Man didn't you ever thow a water ballon at your Mom's feet? Something to splash her, but not soak her? If they wanted to nail a teacher, it would have been raining ballons not just one or two.
No, I never threw a water balloon at my mother, I wouldn't even consider thinking of throwing one at my mother. And it was more then one or two, as I stated it was 15 to 20. And just because their aim was off and they didn't hit the teachers, their intentions were to hit them.

And btw, the Graduation Ceremony is tomorrow, so I guess if the principal is going to change his mind, he better do it fast.