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Topic: Does the punishment fit the crime?
franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Wed 05/28/08 09:28 AM
well kids will be what you let them be and then they become adults hhhhmmmmmmmmm insert head scratching emoticon here agree, make an example of the first one's caught in the act, the rest will know the consequences. Oooppps not only did they miss w/water balloons but also missed graduation ceremony. tit for tat... kudos!

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 05/28/08 09:30 AM
gmta

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Wed 05/28/08 11:10 AM
he funniest thing about this thread is self proclaimed socialists defending the action taken against the children, then want to scream about accountability. Sonce when has a socialist ever been accountable for their actions? I thought the whole backbone of that movement was to never be responsible for anything, always be the victim, and others who will be accountable will take care of you forever. WOrkers of the world Unite you might want to educate yourself on what socialism is before spouting your anti-socialist rhetoric..your confusing the issue here with typical spoiled american/victim too used to getting away with murder and then crying about it when they are caught and held accountable. where are you from?

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Wed 05/28/08 11:11 AM
My local news broadcasted a story about a couple of seniors that threw 15 to 20 water balloons in the direction of some teachers. The teachers did not get hit by the balloons, but they did get hit by the water. The Seniors were suspended from school and according to school policy, they are not allowed to participate in any extracurricular activities. Which means they will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremony. They will have to pick up their diplomas from the school. The families of the Seniors feel that the punishment is to harsh and that they are being punished as well because they are being deprived the privilege of seeing their children walk across the stage to receive the diploma. So what do you think? The punishment is too severe. Those teachers should remember some of the pranks they pulled when they were that age.

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Wed 05/28/08 11:14 AM
well kids will be what you let them be and then they become adults hhhhmmmmmmmmm insert head scratching emoticon here nobody ever said they should not be held accountable, or be punished. There were many other options available to these people, yet they took the most harsh action available, just because they could. I am betting that there will be more issues there than water balloons in the future

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 05/28/08 12:34 PM Edited by adj4u on Wed 05/28/08 12:37 PM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Wed 05/28/08 12:41 PM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events Yes the student body can refuse to participate, but that doesnt mean the punishment wil be revoked. It WILL mean their opinion will be noted, lol but simply refusing to play football, or go through graduation ceremonies (as an example) will not garuntee a change in the punishment as that comes form the school leadership, not the student leadership.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Wed 05/28/08 12:43 PM
for every action there is either a consequence or reward if you do the right thing you'd have no worries.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 05/28/08 02:43 PM Edited by adj4u on Wed 05/28/08 02:45 PM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events Yes the student body can refuse to participate, but that doesnt mean the punishment wil be revoked. It WILL mean their opinion will be noted, lol but simply refusing to play football, or go through graduation ceremonies (as an example) will not garuntee a change in the punishment as that comes form the school leadership, not the student leadership. that is exactly why the country is in the shape it is in today why bother it wont change anything without students there would be no school functions without school functions the money would be cut and just maybe the kids dont care and yep it was water balloons (THIS TIME) insert head scratching emoticon here

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Mon 06/02/08 06:21 AM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events Yes the student body can refuse to participate, but that doesnt mean the punishment wil be revoked. It WILL mean their opinion will be noted, lol but simply refusing to play football, or go through graduation ceremonies (as an example) will not garuntee a change in the punishment as that comes form the school leadership, not the student leadership. that is exactly why the country is in the shape it is in today why bother it wont change anything without students there would be no school functions without school functions the money would be cut and just maybe the kids dont care and yep it was water balloons (THIS TIME) insert head scratching emoticon here The student body acting enmass to make their opinion be heard, can and does work yes. I am not saying it doesnt. I am saying in this specific instance it will not work. One, there were only a couple days left until the graduation ceremony in the first place; what is the student body going to refuse to do? Go to school? Thats called truancy, which in a lot of states is still enforced. I don't knwo abuot where this took place. two, the school is not going to forgo discipline and punishment of studetns, who they (faculty) feel are guilty of somethign as s erious as assault (and that is exactly how they are treating this case) simply because the student body does not agree with the punishment. Otherwise every time the captain of the football team (as an example) does something stupid and gets in trouble, he wont be disciplined becayse the student body would rally against the school and get it revoked. Yes, in some cases the student body can get things changed. But not in something as serious as a case of assault (wether you, I or anyone lese agrees it was assault, doesnt matter. The schoolboard obviously does).

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 06/02/08 07:13 AM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events Yes the student body can refuse to participate, but that doesnt mean the punishment wil be revoked. It WILL mean their opinion will be noted, lol but simply refusing to play football, or go through graduation ceremonies (as an example) will not garuntee a change in the punishment as that comes form the school leadership, not the student leadership. that is exactly why the country is in the shape it is in today why bother it wont change anything without students there would be no school functions without school functions the money would be cut and just maybe the kids dont care and yep it was water balloons (THIS TIME) insert head scratching emoticon here The student body acting enmass to make their opinion be heard, can and does work yes. I am not saying it doesnt. I am saying in this specific instance it will not work. One, there were only a couple days left until the graduation ceremony in the first place; what is the student body going to refuse to do? Go to school? Thats called truancy, which in a lot of states is still enforced. I don't knwo abuot where this took place. two, the school is not going to forgo discipline and punishment of studetns, who they (faculty) feel are guilty of somethign as s erious as assault (and that is exactly how they are treating this case) simply because the student body does not agree with the punishment. Otherwise every time the captain of the football team (as an example) does something stupid and gets in trouble, he wont be disciplined becayse the student body would rally against the school and get it revoked. Yes, in some cases the student body can get things changed. But not in something as serious as a case of assault (wether you, I or anyone lese agrees it was assault, doesnt matter. The schoolboard obviously does). refuse to go to graduation if no one shows up to accept their diploma in the public show how will that make the school look even if 2/3 do not show always something can be done even if they threaten to do it but maybe the kids do not want to support the kulprits who knows maybe they were bullies i do not know details just what is posted here maybe they were trouble insighters there are always more facts than reported granted an the service it seems a harsh punishment but what is below the surface

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Mon 06/02/08 11:55 AM
and i never said that the punishment was the proper one neither funny how assumptions work sometimes insert head scratching emoticon here -------- wonder if they have a set penalty done for certain actions some prnaks do lead to certain punishments maybe this is one that had a predetermined punishment what ever it is if it is overly harsh and the student body feels it is they can change the punishment by refusing to participate in school sponsored events Yes the student body can refuse to participate, but that doesnt mean the punishment wil be revoked. It WILL mean their opinion will be noted, lol but simply refusing to play football, or go through graduation ceremonies (as an example) will not garuntee a change in the punishment as that comes form the school leadership, not the student leadership. that is exactly why the country is in the shape it is in today why bother it wont change anything without students there would be no school functions without school functions the money would be cut and just maybe the kids dont care and yep it was water balloons (THIS TIME) insert head scratching emoticon here The student body acting enmass to make their opinion be heard, can and does work yes. I am not saying it doesnt. I am saying in this specific instance it will not work. One, there were only a couple days left until the graduation ceremony in the first place; what is the student body going to refuse to do? Go to school? Thats called truancy, which in a lot of states is still enforced. I don't knwo abuot where this took place. two, the school is not going to forgo discipline and punishment of studetns, who they (faculty) feel are guilty of somethign as s erious as assault (and that is exactly how they are treating this case) simply because the student body does not agree with the punishment. Otherwise every time the captain of the football team (as an example) does something stupid and gets in trouble, he wont be disciplined becayse the student body would rally against the school and get it revoked. Yes, in some cases the student body can get things changed. But not in something as serious as a case of assault (wether you, I or anyone lese agrees it was assault, doesnt matter. The schoolboard obviously does). refuse to go to graduation if no one shows up to accept their diploma in the public show how will that make the school look even if 2/3 do not show always something can be done even if they threaten to do it but maybe the kids do not want to support the kulprits who knows maybe they were bullies i do not know details just what is posted here maybe they were trouble insighters there are always more facts than reported granted an the service it seems a harsh punishment but what is below the surface exactly so. On the surface, it seems highly excessive, however, we do not knwo all the facts. and as I had said, obviously the school board considers it on a level similart to assault, or just as seriosu, so there probably IS more to the story we don't knwo about. Like maybe this wasnt the first time it happened with these same students?