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I think that there are more important issues in the world than some adults who cant take a kid's joke! I agree,,,,,the education system in FL is pathetic,,,,the drop out rate is between 40-60%,,,,,,it's not a good sign,,,,,and with less and less income for the states, cut back's in education are here!!!!!!! but what do I know i'm" Just Stupid Human"!!!!!!!!!! |
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the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple... Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. |
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the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple... As you saiud the worst you ever got ws a paddling formt he principle. Teachers are no longer allowed to do that. and in many states parents are not allowed to do that either. So, now what is left as punishment? YOu have agreed you were punished, jjust that your punishment isnt allowed now. So what punishment SHOULD they have gotten in your mind? |
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My local news broadcasted a story about a couple of seniors that threw 15 to 20 water balloons in the direction of some teachers. The teachers did not get hit by the balloons, but they did get hit by the water. The Seniors were suspended from school and according to school policy, they are not allowed to participate in any extracurricular activities. Which means they will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremony. They will have to pick up their diplomas from the school. The families of the Seniors feel that the punishment is to harsh and that they are being punished as well because they are being deprived the privilege of seeing their children walk across the stage to receive the diploma. So what do you think? I don't know why old people would be throwing water balloons in the first place |
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I really think that everyone needs to chill. Just because they made a mistake doesn't mean they will continue to do so.
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the rest of you people claim to want to teach responsibility, but I think you are just jealous. Jealous of a kid being a kid, and forgetting that their childhood essentially ends with graduation. They have plenty of time to go work meaningless what the kids did was wrong. they attacked their teachers without thought to who they were doing it to or for the consequences of their actions..this has nothing to do with "kids will be kids", if they had done it to each other and a teacher didnt like it then I'd agree with the statement above. You teach responsibility by holding people accountable for their actions. These kids broke the rules now they have to pay the price. Its just that simple... As you saiud the worst you ever got ws a paddling formt he principle. Teachers are no longer allowed to do that. and in many states parents are not allowed to do that either. So, now what is left as punishment? YOu have agreed you were punished, jjust that your punishment isnt allowed now. So what punishment SHOULD they have gotten in your mind? |
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I'm thinking the mod didn't like it.. I saw it too.. you can say that a hundred more times i have someone one here that personally attacks me and others on a regular basis and they just keep posting away |
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If you ask me i would say graduating high school and the whole tradition is pointless.Im not saying that you shouldn't be taught or learn anything. But lets be honest most of the stuff we learned in high school didn't really matter when we got in the real world.
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If you ask me i would say graduating high school and the whole tradition is pointless.Im not saying that you shouldn't be taught or learn anything. But lets be honest most of the stuff we learned in high school didn't really matter when we got in the real world. so did you learn the responsibility of getting up and being where you are supposed to be when yer supposed to be there and have you learned that a + b is not the same as ab and that two wrongs do not make a right but 3 lefts do you learn a lot of things in high school that are not on the schedule like what happens if you throw a water ballon at someone without a sense of humor |
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Edited by
Thomas27
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Fri 05/23/08 12:55 PM
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If you ask me i would say graduating high school and the whole tradition is pointless.Im not saying that you shouldn't be taught or learn anything. But lets be honest most of the stuff we learned in high school didn't really matter when we got in the real world. Did you know that your entire knowledge of anything is based solely off your vocabulary? I guess it all just comes natural to you? |
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Edited by
Thomas27
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Fri 05/23/08 12:59 PM
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! |
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! |
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If you ask me i would say graduating high school and the whole tradition is pointless.Im not saying that you shouldn't be taught or learn anything. But lets be honest most of the stuff we learned in high school didn't really matter when we got in the real world. I think it may have been rather difficult to get through college without what I learned in high school. |
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If you ask me i would say graduating high school and the whole tradition is pointless.Im not saying that you shouldn't be taught or learn anything. But lets be honest most of the stuff we learned in high school didn't really matter when we got in the real world. What are you going to do whne the electricity goes out and you are running a cash register? (just as an example) How are you going to explain in a resume, what yuor skills, training, and experiences are, and why you chould be hired over someone else? (just a suggestion) What are you going to do if someone accidentally (and your there) mixes bleach and ammonia? (serious question) What will you do when your boss (assuming you filled the resume out properly) tells you it is African/American month and you have to put together a display depictin African?American culture/history? These are just a quick set of questions, one for each core subject (math, english, science, social studies/history), that you might have to answer no matter where you are in life. There's a whole lot more that could be asked, all based on very basic core subjects. And on a quick note, the bleach and ammonia question? You would be terrified at how many people actually do mix it together. And a disclaimer, I might have the wrong two chemicals, I did poorly in science myself, lol, but I refuse to mix any chemicals due to that. Just to be safe. And if I see a noxious fog coming from a mixture I still know how to react. |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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Sat 05/24/08 05:29 PM
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! And you would be paying my chiropactor bill when I threw my back out. |
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! And you would be paying my chiropactor bill when I threw my back out. |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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Sun 05/25/08 08:37 PM
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! And you would be paying my chiropactor bill when I threw my back out. If an action you take, causes someone else to come to harm, wether you intended harm or not, you are legally liable for the medical bills ensued. Just food for thought And besides, I did not mention anything of suing, did I? I assumed you would be mature enough to admit that your actions caused the result I described, and would volunteer to pay for the medical bills involved. But, you know what they say about assuming... It makes what out of both the assumer and the assumed? |
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! And you would be paying my chiropactor bill when I threw my back out. If an action you take, causes someone else to come to harm, wether you intended harm or not, you are legally liable for the medical bills ensued. Just food for thought And besides, I did not mention anything of suing, did I? I assumed you would be mature enough to admit that your actions caused the result I described, and would volunteer to pay for the medical bills involved. But, you know what they say about assuming... It makes what out of both the assumer and the assumed? |
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Exactly. What most people are forgetting to take into account is the teachers in question have the inalienable right to not be involved with the water balloons ina ny way. If the kids had not involved the teachers, there would have been no problem. remember people have the right to not be involved just as much as they have the right to be involved. It may seem childish and unreasonable to you that the teacher got upset about getting wet. To me it is reasonable. For example, I personally have some major problems with my back and neck, and anything sudden that makes me jump or jerk in surprise tends to hurt like hell due to it. This includes getting hit with cold water. So yes, the teachers did have the right to be upset about getting hit with the water balloons. Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! And you would be paying my chiropactor bill when I threw my back out. If an action you take, causes someone else to come to harm, wether you intended harm or not, you are legally liable for the medical bills ensued. Just food for thought And besides, I did not mention anything of suing, did I? I assumed you would be mature enough to admit that your actions caused the result I described, and would volunteer to pay for the medical bills involved. But, you know what they say about assuming... It makes what out of both the assumer and the assumed? Single Rob, your not an a$$ so dont talk like you're one. Everythign you just posted is all unintentyional events that were not specifically aimed toward a single person as you very well know. And in the case of the kids playing hide and go seek, they are kids who are nto trying to do anything except play with themselves. In the case of the teenagers of this article, they included their teacher without the teachers wishes, and they are definitely old enough to know that once, you intentionally include another person, the results are your own too face. So again, you are nto an a$$, so don't talk like one. It doesnt behoove you. |
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Daniel, If I saw you walking down the street, I'd throw a water balloon at you just for the hell of it! what gives you the right to harass someone??? thats probably the same attitude that the HS kids in the OP had...it seems like you just dont get it..IT NOT OK to attack people, if they feel its an attack then thats what it is, whether you think its a bit of fun or not isnt the point. If someone has a bug up their butt about it, then too bad for you, find a like-minded victim then. People get to decide for themselves what is ok for them or not. |
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