They are all in the bathroom with swollen prostates trying to pee

Or searching thru the medicine cabinet for their Viagra prescription

is it true that nice guys finish last?

(sorry I couldnt help it)

It all depends on which race

If a jerk becomes nice, it seems he has a better chance being accepted then a good guy getting fed up, not wanting his ways to be taken in vein, but that may be the exact moment he needs to stick it out. When he's out the door, and if that's the end scenario, I don't see it giving her room for the chance to understand his ways. So he's going to find out he will carry on that way a long time till he finds out that both men and women have a side, that no matter how seasoned in their own knowledge of it, there's a certain need for the realities of reason and sometimes, sloppily, can be harsh getting to the same end result.
Is this where women fail? When they try to see a man, who is a jerk, and think he has some certain amount of ownership to what is and what should be, because they see some certain air of superiority? Usually when someone gets mad you have a feeling they have a credible grievance.
I had comfort in my father as he was the man of the house, but my respect and love for him I knew without question will always be because simply he wasn't a jerk. He was just serious at the times it called for it.
Not to question any ones intelligence, just for the sake of being said...It takes two in being understanding and a certain level of acceptance and respect. One is down the other brings them up and if it isn't vise versa? Is it a red flag you heed to?
I have something to say to all nice guys. Be nice to yourself. Women know the difference or will eventually, between that and a self serving jerk.

I am a man who just found out his wife is cheating on him i belive in marrage and would never have done that to her it's not the way i was brought up i guess it doesm't matter how i fill just how she fill's i love her to death now i wish would drop dead i the worst thing is she wants me to be his friend it just hurt's so bad i don't know what to do.

I can understand how you feel brother, After two years of my X's infidelity I had had enough. Time to pull the plug and start looking after me, I too was like you, I meant the vows that I took, but there are no guarantees in life. Ask yourself, are her loyalties of the type that you want? The person that she is now, is that what you deserve? Is that what you want? Right now you are in to much pain to think clearly. For me I had to remove myself from the toxic situation so I could start to think. Does it hurt? You bet! But you will get stronger from this pain. I'm not telling you to substitute your opinion for mine, but you need to start thinking about you And please don't start drinking, that will only make it worse! Do you have a good friend you can trust and talk to. You need to look at all the angles before you come to any decisions.

nice guys get the left overs.

nice guys may wait longer but in the end are much happier.

Not nice of you to make them wait to begin with...

yea, eventually i'll get 1 or 2 years of bliss (probably due to not remembering anything because of Alzheimers) after all of these years of miserable loneliness. awesome!

A good man is like a wolf in the wild.
Standoffish and skiddish.
He will try to get a feel for you.
If he senses any ill intentions
He will run off.

But if he befriends you,
He will walk confidently with you.
He will stand by your side
Loyal and true!!!

and by the way...
Wolves mate for life.


(enter wolf howl here)...

good one NtheWind.


i have to say though that maybe folks just had to wait till some of us nice/good guys made it to 35. LOL!

Uh, yeah....the forums is the ONLY place you will meet some one here, the rest of this site is just fluff.

What happened to a good female in her 30's? I feel like I would have better luck looking for a yetti!

Freakin hilarious! and unfortunately true

Leave it to a nurse to describe the situation so well.

Hi...just joined this site and wonder if there any nice men in their 30's or 40's in the Birmingham, AL area? So far I've talked to some nice people on here, and look forward to meeting someone special!

~SIGH

It's funny how cynical we have all become. The nice guy, nice girl thing..... Everyone has their own opinion of what makes a person nice. What one classifies as a nice girl/guy may be the opposite for another.

Good ones are still out there, just gotta keep diggin till ya find them... like finding the perfect fishing worm.... toss the bad ones to the side an keep on looking the pay off is worth it in the end.