I understand and it is no different than a gay man.Imagine being stuck with that pushy guy for 4-6 years on a ship or a submarine.

Seriously if you were a gay man or woman the military is like a dream come true.I think the cut off date to join the military for age is around 38.The majority of people join when they are 18-20.Imagine being a 35 year old gay guy showering with 160 different men 90% of them are 18-20 in boot camp.Spending 3-4 months in the same room seeing everything they do.Then being shipped off somewhere where you are living with men all the time in close quarters.


Gay men and women will join for 4 years just to be a pervert.Just like men would join for 4 years if they slept and showered with women.


It's bad enough to stomach serving in the military under Obama.It's worse knowing you are going to be stuck with a bunch of out and proud horny homosexuals who are joining to get a free show and intimate encounters.

The only thing harder than trying to understand God is understanding the stupidity of people.We all know we are going to die.Nobody is going to deny that.Seriously wouldn't you rather believe in any God then dying a Atheist and risking Hell for ever?If I was a Atheist I wouldn't take that risk.I would believe in a God that 1.)seems like the best choice and 2.)is the most popular.


You should also remember that people die everyday in the name of Christianity.Christians are prosecuted more than anyone else in the world and it is only getting worse.When was the last time you heard anyone dying in the name of Hinduism or Buddhism?Christians die for what they believe because they know it's true.They will bet their life on it.

I'm sure you will say "but Muslims die for their religion also"?There is a world of difference between Muslims dying for their faith and Christians dying for their faith.Muslims kill people for what they believe in.Christians die because of what they believe in.Muslims kill to conquer and rule.Christians die as victims of their faith in Jesus.

Gay men are also notorious for being bluntly direct and far more aggressive towards getting what they want then lesbian women.I think trying to compare each others tactics when it comes to getting a man or woman to sleep with you is worlds apart.I know most gay men will give a BJ to anyone who asks for it.Hardly the same for women.


As said earlier in the military you can not choose who you are sharing a room with.I was in the Navy and 6 months was a typical deployment on a ship.8 months is also common.6 months out at sea with a bunch of mostly 18-25 year old men on a ship that has no women on it is the last place you want a bunch of gay men.The only privacy you are going to get is the shower curtain.Everything else is out in the open for everyone to see.


In boot camp there is no privacy.Even the crappers have no doors or walls.You are taking a dump looking right at another guy across the room.When it comes time to shower you all go at the same time and you are all standing in one or two long lines totally naked watching everyone one else shower waiting your turn.The showers are nothing but a few shower towers in one big room.You undress and dress in front of everyone in the same room.There is no privacy anywhere!


I personally don't care if gays are in the military.I just don't want to get that creepy feeling someone is getting off watching me shower or unwelcome comments or offers.I don't want some pervert straight or gay watching porn in the same room as me and asking me sexual questions.I don't want some moron telling me I should explore my bisexual side.I don't want some guy jerking off in the room because he knows what time I am coming home from work and thinks I will like catching him.


These are all things I have dealt with while I was in the military and things I don't want to experience again.There is nothing the military can do now to stop any of these things from happening.If you are telling gays it's fine now to be open about their attraction to men there is little that straight men can do about it.


I wonder how the women would feel about sharing a room with two horny 18-25 year olds.I wonder how they would feel about sharing and showering in one large room for 3 months with over a hundred men(boot camp)?How would they feel if they were married and some guy keeps asking them to watch a porno with him.Having no privacy at all.Men are not women.But they get the same treatment when dealing with a gay man.

Ha,ha thats funny!Gay guys don't go after straight guys! You are not a male and you have no idea what it is like to be a man.If you were a male,were attractive,you would know why myself and others don't want homosexuals in the military.As someone who was active going to concerts and clubs and as someone who worked out in the gym on a regular basis I can tell you that there was no shortage of gay men hitting on me.I have said this before and I will say it again.I am sure nearly all men who work out in the gym and take a shower later will have that unpleasant experience of a gay man showering next to him.How do you know he is gay?He is staring at your body 80% of the time,complementing your body,asking you if you are single,etc.There is also 20 empty shower heads and he has to be the one guy standing right next to you.


In the military we saw them as well.They would rent pornos and ask you to watch with them.Instead of drying off in the shower they dried off in the room you had to share with them.You would get offers for a three some or to have sex with someones wife while the husband watches.


Needless to say this is a whole lot of BS I would not want to deal with but had to deal with it since my roommates were assigned to me by some officer.


As usual the people who support the end to this ban are the ones who have never served and have no idea what they are talking about.

I can't say any of us are surprised to hear this news.Maybe now we can finally stop hearing the non stop whining and complaining from the homosexuals for a week or two until they start complaining about the new "right" they deserve.

Obama has done wonderful job screwing this country up.We can chalk up one more disaster with this repeal.I suppose Obama didn't even bother reading why DADT was put there to begin with.It was put there because homosexuals were being beat and killed by other soldiers.Why he thinks that letting gays come out of the closet in the middle of a unpopular War is a good idea is right now is really stupid.He is already unpopular with the soldiers.You think they are going to be more happy now?


Obama has been cancer to this country.Now his cancer will spread to the military.

How many of those are because the military service is mandatory?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service

3 Countries with mandatory military service
3.1 Albania
3.2 Armenia
3.3 Austria
3.4 Belarus
3.5 Bermuda
3.6 Brazil
3.7 China (PRC)
3.8 Colombia
3.9 Cyprus
3.10 Denmark
3.11 Egypt
3.12 Finland
3.13 Germany
3.14 Greece
3.14.1 Conscientious objection to military service (Greece)
3.15 Iran
3.16 Israel
3.17 South Korea
3.18 Malaysia
3.19 Mexico
3.20 Norway
3.21 Russia
3.22 Serbia
3.23 Singapore
3.24 Switzerland
3.25 Taiwan (ROC)
3.26 Turkey
3.27 Ukraine

In other words....if your anything else but a gay minority you should be kicked out of the United states because we are unhealthy.


Get a education before you speak.Because you have no idea what you are talking about.


http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/2009/12/harry-reid-twists-civil-rights-history.html


October 13, 1858
During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee

April 16, 1862
President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

July 17, 1862
Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”

January 31, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition

April 8, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition

November 22, 1865
Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination

February 5, 1866
U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

April 9, 1866
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law

May 10, 1866
U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no

June 8, 1866
U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

January 8, 1867
Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans

March 30, 1868
Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”

September 3, 1868
25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress

September 12, 1868
Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

October 7, 1868
Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”

October 22, 1868
While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan

December 10, 1869
Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office

February 3, 1870
After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

May 31, 1870
President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights

June 22, 1870
Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South

September 6, 1870
Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell

February 28, 1871
Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters

April 20, 1871
Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

October 10, 1871
Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands

October 18, 1871
After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan

November 18, 1872
Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”

January 17, 1874
Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government

September 14, 1874
Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

March 1, 1875
Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

January 10, 1878
U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919. Republicans foil Democratic efforts to keep women in the kitchen, where they belong

February 8, 1894
Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

January 15, 1901
Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

May 29, 1902
Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%

February 12, 1909
On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP

May 21, 1919
Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no

August 18, 1920
Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures

January 26, 1922
House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster




June 2, 1924
Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans

October 3, 1924
Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention

June 12, 1929
First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country

August 17, 1937
Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation

June 24, 1940
Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

August 8, 1945
Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”

September 30, 1953
Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education

November 25, 1955
Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel

March 12, 1956
Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation

June 5, 1956
Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law

November 6, 1956
African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President

September 9, 1957
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

September 24, 1957
Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools

May 6, 1960
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats

May 2, 1963
Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights

September 29, 1963
Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School

June 9, 1964
Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

“Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws… On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

June 10, 1964
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

August 4, 1965
Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

February 19, 1976
President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

September 15, 1981
President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

June 29, 1982
President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

August 10, 1988
President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

November 21, 1991
President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

August 20, 1996
Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law

Lets have some more fun shall we?



http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=16928

Student newspaper's anti-Christian cartoons rile community

EUGENE, Ore. — Anti-Christian cartoons in a University of Oregon student newspaper, The Insurgent, has angered students, local Catholic organizations and now involves national cable TV commentator Bill O'Reilly.One cartoon depicted Jesus on the cross with an erection. Another depicted a sexually aroused Jesus kissing another man. The issue also included essays critical of Christianity and Catholicism.


Rev. Fred Winters was murdered while preaching in his pulpit in Maryville, Illinois.

HBO’s program "Curb Your Enthusiasm" aired an episode where the main actor urinates on painting of Jesus. When confronted HBO would not apologize.

Police called to East Jessamine Middle School in Lexington, Kentucky to stop 8th graders from praying during their lunch break for a student whose mother was tragically killed.

Pro-life activist Jim Pullion was murdered in front of his granddaughter's high school for showing the truth about abortion.


An activist judge ordered a home school mom in New Hampshire to stop home schooling her daughter because the little girl “reflected too strongly” her mother’s Christian faith.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1080745/Nun-attacked-gang-raped-40-men-anti-Christian-violence-India.html

Nun 'attacked and gang-raped by 40 men' during anti-Christian attacks in India slams police for shielding attackers

http://www.neaiga.org/anti-christian.htm


Christian 'fish' symbol spawns discrimination claims

Two Virginia realtors have been taken to task by the state's Fair Housing Board for using the Ichthys, or "Jesus fish," and John 3:16 in their advertising.t would seem to be a perfectly legal expression of faith, but Dr. Gary Cass of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission says someone obviously felt differently.


IRS tells pro-lifers to give up 1st Amendment

The Internal Revenue Service has told members of the Coalition for Life of Iowa they would have to give up their 1st Amendment rights in order to be recognized as a non-profit organization, according to a complaint being pursued by members of the Thomas More Society. The organization incorporated in 2004 as a not-for-profit under Iowa law and has been operating strictly within the guidelines for groups set up for religious, educational and charitable a letter sent to the IRS last week said.


The National Federation of Atheist, Humanist and Secular Student Societies launches "anti-God squad" to mobilize non-believersvery religion on campus has its student society, from the Christian Union to the Jedi Knights. Now the non-religionists will have theirs too.The National Federation of Atheist, Humanist and Secular Student Societies launches today to mobilize non-believers.The "anti-God squad", as it is happy to be called, says it will fight for the voices of what it believes to be the majority of students to be heard on campus and further a field.It is planning campaigns and events across the country to protest against religious privilege and promote the understanding of science.It has the support of some of the country's leading critics of religion: the scientist Richard Dawkins, the philosopher AC Grayling, and the Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee.


UK Parents face prosecution over school gay week protest

Parents who took their children out of school in protest at them being taught about gay, bisexual and transgender history could be prosecuted.Council bosses said the protest resulted in around 30 primary pupils missing school and had "taken action" against parents who pulled took their children out of George Tomlinson School in Leytonstone, east London, but refused to state what sanctions are being taken.


Oxford Junior Dictionary Drops Christian Words

The latest edition of the Oxford Junior Dictionary has dropped many words associated with Christianity and British history that were found in earlier versions.Christian-related words like "bishop," "chapel," "disciple," "minister," "sin," and "devil," have been replaced by words like "blog," "biodegradable," "MP3 player," "democratic,"and "celebrity," in the 2007 edition of the popular children's dictionary in the United Kingdom, which was largely unnoticed until recently.


Court to decide whether campus evangelism a crime

The so-called "free-speech code" of Yuba Community College District is under federal court scrutiny. California student, Ryan Dozier, decided to spend some time on campus sharing his faith and handing out tracts to fellow students, generating conversations about Christianity. Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) attorney Heather Hacker comments on the situation."A campus police officer came over and told him that if he continued to do so without a permit that he would be possibly expelled or arrested, and so Ryan stopped immediately," she explains. Hacker says Dozier thought the case was closed, but he was apparently mistaken.


REWARDS OFFERED FOR MURDERING CHRISTIANS, DESTROYING HOMES, CHURCHES

Hindu extremist groups are offering money, food and alcohol to anyone who murders Christians and destroys their homes.

The violence is nothing new in Orissa, India, where India's Communist Party estimates that more than 500 Christians have been killed by Hindu mobs in Orissa since late August, 12 times more than official government claims of only 40 homicides.But now the stakes are even higher – and pastors have a bounty on their heads.Faiz Rahman, chairman of Good News India, said Hindu militants are targeting Christian leaders, the Christian Post reported.

‘The going price to kill a pastor is $250,’ he said.

Rahman, a head of several orphanages in Orissa State, said he's helped 25 pastors to leave refugee camps, but 250 Christian leaders are still in shelters.


Atheists advertise on buses - There is no God

BRITISH atheists have raised a pile of cash to tell Londoners there's probably no God and to get on with life.The nation's first atheist advertising campaign has beaten its funding target in less than 24 hours, raising nearly nine times the amount it needed to posts its ads on public buses in London.


Virginia bans 'Jesus' from troopers' prayers

'This edict is unacceptable and unconstitutional'

Virginia Gov. Timothy Kaine is being called on the carpet by a national religious freedom advocacy organization after his administration implemented a new state policy forbidding state police chaplains from using "Jesus Christ" in public prayers, and half a dozen chaplains resigned in protest.


Christian photographers fined for refusing same-sex ceremony

The state of New Mexico has ordered a family owned photography company to pay more than $6,600 for declining a demand to take pictures at a same-sex ceremony, and a lawyer who is working on an appeal says it is an example of how "non-discrimination" or "hate" laws can be weapons in the hands of homosexual activis


Christian Librarian fired for reporting child pornography

Supervisor warned her not to call police over illegal activity
Librarian Brenda Biesterfeld says she's glad her community considers her a hero for helping nab a child porn suspect, but wants her library job back



Christians ordered to pay big bucks – for praying!

Lawyer plans appeal of convictions for disorderly conduct at 'gay' fest
Lawyers for a team of Christians convicted of disorderly conduct for praying at a "gay" fest in a public park in Elmira, N.Y., are promising an appeal of the verdict that left them with $100 fines.Joel Oster, of the Alliance Defense Fund, said an appeal will be filed in Chemung County court for Julian and Gloria Raven, Maurice Kienenberger and Walter Quick, all of Elmira, who were ordered to pay $95 apiece in court costs in addition to the $100 fines.


Police told Christians they had no speech rights in public park

A trial is scheduled to begin today in Elmira, N.Y., and lawyers for the defendants say it will be a test of whether the First Amendment affirmations of freedom of speech and freedom of religion still are valid in the United States."Choosing to exercise your First Amendment rights in a public place is not a crime," Joel Oster, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund said. "The government has no right to arrest citizens for exercising their First Amendment rights in public."At issue is the arrest of several Christians at a "gay pride" event is Wisner Park in Elmira in 2007. Julian and Gloria Raven and several others entered the park to pray silently for the participants of the event celebrating homosexual behavior


UK Christians being squeezed out of adoptions due to views on homosexuality

In November 2007, it was reported that a Christian couple in Somerset, UK, was being forced to retire from fostering needy children on conscientious grounds after the local council imposed rules requiring them to discuss homosexuality with the children.



Motion to Protect Religious Freedom and Speech Defeated in UK Gay Hate Crimes Bill

The Labor-controlled British Parliament has rejected a motion that would have afforded Christians and other conscientious objectors legal protection from accusations of hate crimes by homosexual activists.The proposed "gay hate crimes" law would carry a maximum penalty of seven years in jail for anyone convicted of "inciting hatred" against homosexuals.

How about Mingle removes the General religion chat from this forum?Since 98% of what is posted in the General religion chat involves some form of degrading and slandering of Christianity there is really no need to discuss it.Furthermore these topics are against Mingles own rules that specificity say....

"In this forum, we will not allow users to bash other users for either believing or not believing in a specific religion.

We know that religion is a topic that many people feel extremely passionate about, both believers and non-believers. However, if you wish to participate in this forum, discussions must remain civil at ALL times. If you wish to have a reasoned discussion about religion, the existence or non-existence of God, etc., you may do so, but users who resort to insults or attacks in either direction as part of these discussions will be banned without notice.

Also, topics which are designated for response exclusively from one religion or belief system, or which may cause that type of polarization, will be deleted. The concept behind these forums is to encourage anyone to participate and post their opinions and thoughts as long as they are on-topic. Topics which do not adhere to that philosophy will be removed, and the poster may lose his/her posting privileges.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation".



Currently you have these topics on the first page alone specificity targeted Christianity in a hateful or negative way.


Were they really Hung like a Horse in Bible?

This christmas!

How Religion Is Killing Our Most Vulnerable Youth

Religious pictures from the 1930's

Most Bizarre Bible Quotes

Transgender woman says DMV clerk warned of hell

hysterical rhetoric

This Palin bashing is getting old.You don't like her fine.Don't waste everyones time by posting this useless piece of information that nobody cares about.


Maybe tomorrow you can post another useless Palin story.Something along the lines of...."Palin demands bottled water on flight back from Haiti".People need water in Haiti and Palin is drinking it on the airplane!



For someone who seems to think Palin is one of the most useless people on the planet you have to be one of her biggest fans.Because you seem to watch her every move no matter how small it is.If you really thought she was useless you wouldn't be worrying about what she is doing 7 days of the week and boring us by telling us these useless stories like these that only you care about.



By the way since here is more complete article....


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/13/world/main7145071.shtml


Sarah Palin urged Americans on Sunday not to forget Haiti as she wrapped up a weekend visit to an aid group's sites in this country vexed by a cholera epidemic, earthquake reconstruction and political crisis.

Accompanied by her husband, Todd, daughter Bristol, and a Fox News crew, the former Alaska governor arrived in Haiti during a respite from the riots and violence that have followed the Caribbean nation's dysfunctional Nov. 28 election.

At least four people were killed in unrest, which has dimmed international hopes that the U.N.-backed elections held on November 28 could create stability for Haiti as it struggles to recover from a devastating January earthquake that killed 250,000.

The 2008 vice presidential candidate was a guest of Rev. Franklin Graham, whose aid group works in the impoverished country. Palin visited Samaritan's Purse projects, including cholera clinics where people are being treated for extreme dehydration.


More than 2,000 people have died of the disease, which scientists believe was recently reintroduced into Haiti, and nearly 100,000 have fallen ill.

"I do urge Americans not to forget Haiti," she said at a Sunday afternoon news conference.

Palin's tightly stage-managed trip was largely closed to the press. She declined to take questions at the news conference.

Noting that severe problems afflicted Haiti even before last January's devastating quake, she said her fellow citizens should "get out of your comfort zone and volunteer to help."

She traveled in part by helicopter, and the aid group declined to share her itinerary, citing security concerns. The U.S. State Department reissued last week its travel warning for Americans considering visits to Haiti.

At the news conference, Palin created some confusion when she referred to a potential drawdown of U.S. assistance to Haiti.

"I know that there's been some discussion of U.S. aid perhaps being lifted from this area," she said. "Again - not to get political - but if some of the politicians would come here and see the conditions, perhaps they would see a need for, say, a military airlift to come bring supplies that are so needed here."

It was not clear what she was referring to, and a Palin spokeswoman declined to elaborate.

U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy, who is chairman of a Senate subcommittee that oversees appropriations for Haiti, recently called for the suspension of direct budget support to the Haitian government until a solution is found to an electoral crisis that has sparked riots in recent days. But his spokesman said Sunday that he was not referring to humanitarian aid or reconstruction money.

Palin spoke about seeing firsthand the challenging economic, political and environmental conditions in which Haitians live and advocated "fundamental changes," including the need for job creation in agriculture and tourism sectors.

"Thank the media for keeping a spotlight on this country and on the conditions that the people are living in. That they are trying to survive amidst and to be here and to see firsthand the conditions and what it takes for the people who are living here, in such adverse conditions, what it takes just to survive their daily lives are so challenging because of economic and political and environmental conditions," Palin said.

Exclusive access during the trip was given to Fox News, whose Greta van Susteren traveled with the group to Haiti. Video and pictures posted online by the aid group show Palin holding hands with Haitian children, visiting cholera patients and handing out Christmas presents, and laughing with Graham and van Susteren.

"I've really enjoyed meeting this community. They are so full of joy," Palin was quoted as saying on the organization's website. "We are so fortunate in America, and we are responsible for helping those less fortunate."

Ultra conservatinve congregation???These people obviously are not Christians because Jesus Christ was a Jew and so were the people God called "his chosen"who he loved.For these idiots to say that God hates his own son and his own people,and his own promised land is beyond stupid.


I think most people and especially other Christians can see this group for what it is.It's bunch of Atheists using God as a excuse to do two things...

1.To provoke anger and hate towards Christians.
2.To provoke anger and hate towards anyone they do not like.


If I was a person who really hated religion what is the best way to give it a black eye and make it look bad?Get 40 or 50 other people who think the same way I do,claim to be that religion you hate,and then be as vile and offensive as possible.


Fortunately everyone has figured out that these people in no way represent Christianity and they are nothing but a bunch of idiots who hate everyone and everything including the concept of Christianity.They would put the world "We hate" on those signs but since that would be considered hate speech they have to use the word God for a excuse to exercise their religion.


I would not want to be one of these people who are judged by God when they die.Hellfire and torment will be their new home.

My cousin has two degrees.She is 32,000 in debt and has spent the last 10 years working jobs as a waitress and a secretary.She told me her two degrees has been totally worthless since she left college.

I think it sucks.I have read many stories in the United states where tuition has been doubled on a nearly yearly basis.I think charging students 150 dollars for a textbook is nothing less than robbery.

The colleges are much like the hospitals.They are going to keep jacking up costs every year for the sole reason of knowing no matter how expensive it gets people will always pay it.


I like many others have found ways to get jobs that require college degrees.Experience will nearly always get you the job with out a degree.You can do what many people do and just lie about it on your application and hope they don't check.Community colleges are affordable and free if you are on unemployment or low income.You can join the military and get the GI bill.

and as a last resort you can spend endless hours researching what you want to get a degree in by getting information off of websites,spend years researching it,and then find some website who you can bribe to give you a test and issue you a degree.

The easy answer is God gave everyone free will.If God was talking to us on a daily basis you would have the same people complaining that God should stay out of our lives and let us do what we want.So we got what we wanted and now people complain because God is not stopping this War from happening or stopping this bomb from going off.It seems people want God to be there for every problem they have yet disappear when they want to fight and complain,sleep around and get drunk,do drugs and be lazy,and every other thing God hates.Like most things in life you don't get it both ways.


Every good thing comes from God and every bad thing comes from Satan.This is written in the bible.It is also written that Satan has power over this world and he can bring misery to every person on this earth no matter how close to God you are.If something bad like cancer or death is happening to you or your family it isn't from God it is from Satan.Hurricanes,earthquakes and floods are not from God they are from Satan.People are always blaming the wrong person.


Can God prevent earthquakes,floods,diseases,etc?Can God stop Satan's power anytime he wants?Yes he can.But as said before if people want free will with out Gods help then they will not receive it and they will be at the mercy of Satan and all his misery.Those who want Gods help and those who rebuke Satan will receive Gods help if they are living a life the way they should be and doing what God is doing.However this does not mean that you will live a care free life with out any worries.Many times Christians have harder lives than most people because Satan loves to cause them grief.Satan has nothing to gain by causing a Atheist grief but much to gain if a Christian turns his back on God.So naturally Satan will cause as much grief and misery to Christians as possible.


Christians know the more they suffer and the more they lose the more they will be rewarded in the afterlife by keeping their faith.Many times hard ships and problems are a test of faith by God.Are you a real Christian?Do you really believe in what the bible says?If they keep their faith and if they continue to do what God says they will be rewarded many times over by what they lost.Any real Christian can tell you that.



Everything on this planet has a purpose and everything happens for a reason.If this world was free from problems and diseases it wouldn't be earth it would be more like heaven.How many diseases are from peoples own stupidity like smoking,over eating,doing drugs,and STD's?Probably the majority of them.If you do believe in God and God is warning you to not do these things because you may die(which the bible talks about over and over again)should you be surprised if you get cancer and die because you were a smoker?Don't blame God blame yourself.If everyone was eating the way the bible told you to eat,not having sex until marriage,not lusting,not getting drunk,not fighting or killing,not wanting other peoples things,honoring their parents,taking care of your body,helping the poor and others,and the thousands of things the bible says we should do what kind of world would we have?


In the Old Testament eating pork or shellfish was commanded by God not to eat.We now know that pigs are some of the most toxic animals you can eat and shellfish is very toxic and should not be eaten.Once again God is warning us but gave us the free will to do what we want.


You can not have compassion for someone if you have never experienced grief or a loss.We help others and we support others because we can relate to how they feel.If you have lived your whole life with out knowing misery,sadness,or grief you wouldn't want to help anyone for any reason and you wouldn't know what to say to them.A grown man would have the brains of a 4 year old when you explained to him how sad you were because your parents died or you lost your job.

I goggled black President Obama and went through much searching and I have yet to find anything degrading related to Obama being a black man.I found many,many websites explaining how Obama is the first black President and how that was a great accomplishment.I found nothing regarding how because Obama is a black man that he shouldn't be President and nothing regarding racism.


I think your second theory is bogus.Blacks make up a small portion of this society so how are you going to explain that Obama won the Presidency because people were relating to him?It was the white people voting that gave him the Presidency not the black people.Because you and I both know even if all the blacks vote for a President it won't matter because there is more white people that can outvote them.


Your third theory is just ridiculous.Republicans and Democrats have never gotten along no matter who is the President.It is stupid to say because Obama is black that the Republicans are not working with the Democrats.Did the Democrats work with Bush when he was in office?Hell no.They spent half of their time trying to impeach him.


Minorities have and always will use the race card when they are doing a poor job.They rarely if ever acknowledge they screwed up and will point the finger at the white man for all of their problems.It wouldn't matter if white people made up 3% of the population of this country.They would blame the 3% for the problems they are going through.


I said it earlier where is your proof that Republicans are telling people that because Obama is a black man that is the reason things are not going well.Where is the proof that Republicans are saying white people should be running the country and that white people do a better job?Where is your proof that skin color has anything to do with anything?

You won't find any because we both know blaming Obamas skin color is not the issue here it is his policies.Your blaming white people because that is what you always do.Even though it was white people that voted him in office you will still say that those same white people are saying he shouldn't be a President.

Yes where is the proof?Show me some articles that deal exclusively with Obamas skin color and how people are having a hard time getting around that issue and how this is somehow important.It would also be wonderful if you could post some news stories from people in Congress that say Obamas race or skin color is the main reason we are in this mess we are in now.

Show me the proof.

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I haven't heard one person say the reason this economy is a mess is because Obama is a black man.I haven't heard a single person saying that if we had more white people in our Government this mess would be over.I don't see Republicans telling the general public that all blacks should never hold potions in our Government,that white people are better and superior,and that blacks are the reason for our worlds problems.


I do see both Republicans and Democrats off all ages and races upset with Obama because of his lack of leadership and his policies.


Maybe if you can post some articles(which I'm sure it should be easy for you to find since this is a race issue now)explaining to the rest of us how Obamas skin color is causing all these problems and how there is a large movement to get him removed because of his skin color.

I am not blaming Obama for these papers being leaked.But I am saying he isn't doing anything for damage control.I think he is portraying a very bad example of leadership because this is on the front page of every paper in the world right now.