This health care bill will also be the first time in history Americans will be forced to pay into PRIVATE companies.If that doesn't ooze corruption,greed,and scandals I don't know what does.

This country is slowly being taken over by the mega rich.Thanks to Obama we will have no choice but to stuff money in their pockets regardless of how much they will be making.Our founding fathers would have had Obama impeached and shot for what he is doing.

There is not doubt that Islam and this War are connected and always have been.I have said that many,many,times in here.If you want to make this a religious VS Atheist debate and who has the highest body count I can show you charts showing hundreds of millions of dead by Wars started by Atheist dictators like Stalin and Pol pot.Just in the last 100 years you have well over 100 million dead due to Atheist dictators.This is far more greater than anything you can blame on religion including the daily death tolls due to Islamic terrorism.


Who cares if Timmothy McVeigh was raised a Catholic?He said in his own words he never believed it.There is people all the time raised Christian and turned Atheist later.The point you keep failing to understand time and time again is that you are trying to put the blame on something totally unrelated to the crime that was committed and why they committed it.

It's like saying "this person committed murder because he had the Texas chainsaw massacre in his collection".Yet the murder says he killed because this person was having a affair with his wife.You can say "that person killed because he had a large gun and knife collection".Yet the murder says he killed because this person owed him money.


Your saying McVeigh blew up this building because he was raised a Catholic and this had to be somehow Christianity related.Yet in his own words he said he never believed in it,said science was his religion,and he blew up that building for political reasons all related to the police state of our Government.


I know you would like to believe McVeigh said "because of my Catholic upbringing it had a huge influence in my decision to bomb this building and I believed I was justified in killing all those people because the Holy bible says it was justified and Holy".He could then explain how he read this bible passage and that bible passage and tell the world how he was not wrong.

Yet he doesn't say one word about religion other than saying he never believed it and science is his religion.

I will second that

What excuses?These are the facts and if they are not the facts maybe you should present the facts so you can back up what you are talking about.


I don't think what you posted has anything to do with religion.McVeigh was mad at our Government over the Waco incident and felt like our Government was overreaching in its power and wanted our Government destroyed.McVeigh did not bomb that building for Christian reasons or anything related to the bible.It had nothing to do with religion.It was all political and our government policies.



9/11 was also due to our Government and it's policies.Bin laden specifically said it was a response to the United states supporting Israel over the years.It had nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with our Government and who we support.


I think if your statement had any truth then you would have at the very minimum several hundred million Christians in America alone killing people for biblical reasons much like the Muslims do.You would read on a daily basis how this Christian murdered this Atheist or Muslim and was justified for doing so because of what the bible tells them is justifiable(like Islam does).But we don't see that and I could probably count on one hand the amount of abortion doctors murdered in America in the last 30 years.



Maybe you need to start researching people who kill using the Christian holy bible for justification.If you can find some people who make a good case using the bible for what they did and the bible can back up their actions then we can talk.

No it's not the same because Christian churches are not suing Atheist groups on a monthly basis demanding them to think they way they do.Christian churches are not putting up billboards from California to New york degrading Atheists.Christian churches are not out protesting other religions demanding them to become Atheists.

That is a pretty poor argument that Christians are somehow responsible for what one person does.Should we blame the Atheists for every crime in America that Atheists do?I can promise you for every murder done by a Christian I can find 2 more done by Atheists.


You also have no idea what you are talking about in some of your so called Christians attacks by Christians.


Timothy McVeigh, was a self-proclaimed atheist.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

In June, 2001, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News claiming to be an agnostic[84] and told the authors of American Terrorist that he did not believe in Hell.[85] McVeigh once said that he believed the universe was guided by natural law, energized by some universal higher power that showed each person right from wrong if they paid attention to what was going on inside them. He had also said, "Science is my religion."[86]


What 9/11 has anything to do with Jesus Christ,the bible,Christianity or anything is puzzling?


David Koresh was nothing but a lunitic who may have been influenced by the bible but was doing everything possible not to follow it including sexual relationships with nearly all the women in his compound including children and a 76 year old woman,claming he was God,claming he was immortal,murder,and a whole list of other things I can't think of.This man was no Christian.Anyone with basic bible knowledge will tell you that.


I don't see how killing a abortion doctor is related to Christianity or can be justified in any way using the bible.The bible specifically commands us not to kill.It tells us to forgive and forget.I also don't see how killing a doctor is any different then killing anyone else.You can search the bible from start to finish and their is no justification for killing anyone.Anyone claiming they were justified using the bible is a liar.

I don't see where it says "Jesus loves you" anywhere.


God can mean any religions God.It does not say Jesus Christ so can you link this statement to Christianity?If you look in the bottom corner you can see half of a no parking sign.So this isn't even a billboard.It's probabably only about 10 feet long by 6 feet high and in front of some church.

I see this sign more of a statement then a attack.The sign is not demanding Atheist do anything it is simply pointing out a reality in our country.This is different then Atheist billboards which are demanding the end to Christmas in the public and throwing lawsuits at Christians every year.

Talk to any man who works out at a gym and ask him if he hasn't been hit on in the shower by a gay man and if that was a pleasant experience?Gay men are far more aggressive and outspoken then gay women.I have had more than my fair share of gay men look me up and down,start asking me questions,commentating on my body parts,asking me if I am single,blah,blah.They shower not facing the wall but facing you so you can get a good look.They come into the sauna and drop their towel and walk around naked.


I do not want to be hit on in the shower of some gym or elsewhere.I do not want any guys checking my body out,talking about my body,or asking me personal questions in the shower.I don't want to see some guy washing his d**k for 10 minutes because he thinks you like the show.


I have had this happed too many times to count regardless of where you go to work out and what state you are in.It is a unpleasant,unwelcome experience,that I do not wish to go through on a daily basis.

Even if it was a year(He talked about ending DADT in his campaign)that is more then enough time to get what ever you need passed.I think 3 months would be more then enough time to research what ever you need and to write any bills you need to get through Congress.


Isn't this repeal really less about gays and more about allowing relationships with people you are working and living with?If the gays were allowed to have relationships on their command why couldn't men and women also have relationships?If we allow same sex relationships how is that going to effect the mission?One person is going to eventually be shipped somewhere else after their 2 or 4 year of duty is over.What if these two men are fighting in combat and one is killed right next to the other?I think it would be safe to assume the one left alone and broken hearted would be almost useless in combat.Do we need people going into Wars who just had lover spats a hour ago?What if these two gay men or two gay women are on a small isolated command and get into a fight and can't stand living together?Where are you going to put this upset gay man who refuses to sleep in the same room as his ex BF?The womans barracks?


I think those who have never been in the military simply don't understand the logistics of keeping hundreds of men sane who have to live next to one another.You already have a thousand problems with racist people who can't stand blacks and blacks who can't stand whites.You have people who are cranky,who have worked all night long,who are jerks by nature,and now you are going to throw in out and proud homosexuals in the mix?


I think most people also forgot why DADT was put there in the first place.It was because gays were coming out of the closet in the military and they were being killed,beat,and harassed.I don't see why the killings,beatings,and harassment would be any different now then it was back then if they were allowed to be out and proud.You would probably see more violence towards gays since most hid their homosexuality very well and were not targeted.

Obama has had two years to repeal DADT.We both know the Republicans were powerless to stop anything in those two years.He could have passed it with ease.Obama keep stalling so he could point the finger at the Republicans and blame them for it not being repealed.


Obama knew if he did repeal it then he would have to do with a tital wave of negative publicity from people in the military in a already unpopular War.Obama will never repeal DADT.He is going to put it in some dark corner somewhere where it will be forgotten like he has for the last 2 years.

I can't seem to remember Christians putting up billboards attacking other religions or Atheist.I know a church or homeless shelter will accept anyone regardless of their beliefs or who they are.Christians have a very long history of a tolerating people who despise them and rarely use the same smear tactics and hate to fight back with.The only time you hear Christians making a fuss is when they are being attacked for their beliefs and people demand they throw away everything they believe is sacred.

3 billion plus Christians around the world don't believe it is a myth.Even Islam writes about Jesus as a real person.That is 4.5 billion people that believe Jesus was a real person.


I think if you added up all the people in the world who truly believed in myths like the tooth fairy and Santa claus you probably wouldn't have a few hundred let alone 4.5 billion.

I think most people are missing the bigger picture here.Do you think it would be a good idea for men and women to serve in the same barracks,shower together,and have relationships with each other?Would it be a good idea to have the barracks run more like a frat house or college dorm where men and women could see each other all the time?


If we repeal don't ask don't tell what is going to stop two gay men from having a relationship(including sexual flings)in the same room as with 50 other people?Are you going to say it's ok to be gay but you have to basically keep it in the closet so nobody else can see or are you going to say you can be openly gay and show it with another man and people have to tolerate it and accept it regardless of how they feel.


I would not want to share a room with 50 men and 50 women having a relationship with each other.Just like I would not want to be in the same room with a man and a woman kissing,fondling,and have sex with each other.I don't want to see it no matter who is doing it.I certainly don't want to watch and hear two men going at it and I certainly don't know how the military would prevent this from happening since legally two men would have the right to love one another as this is what defines being gay.


You can say...the military will pass laws banning men from showing affection to other men in the same room or barracks or what ever.But it's a joke.Just like it would be a joke to put 50 women in the same room with 100 men and expect not to see girls giving BJ's in the stalls,having sex in the janitors closets,and anywhere else they could get away with it.

Just one story of thousands.


http://pddnet.com/news-ap-ohio-tax-breaks-lead-to-91-percent-job-success-071110/

Ohio tax breaks lead to 91 percent job success


An Ohio program that offers companies tax breaks to create jobs has a 91 percent success rate, according to data compiled by the state.

Records released to The Columbus Dispatch for a Sunday report show that Ohio has given incentives amounting to about $525 million through the Department of Development's job-creation tax-credit program since 1993. The money has gone toward 955 projects of which 875 have made it beyond the three-year period during which companies promise to meet certain job and investment goals.

Overall, 91 percent of promised jobs have materialized; of the 875 projects past the three-year point, 92 percent of promised jobs have been created.

The newspaper reports that the state also took 182 enforcement actions in 2009 against companies that did not make good on promises. That compares with 107 in 2008 and 18 in 2007. Officials also have sought to retrieve about $10.6 million from 70 projects that closed down before meeting obligations.

That is exactly right!A atheist can put up a billboard saying we don't believe in God.That is their own opinion.But this billboard is put up at Christmas showing three wise men going to Jesus saying it is a myth.That is a attack on Christianity with out a doubt.


I am also wondering where these billboards are where they say Jesus loves you.I have yet to see one.I see signs on church property now and then but a full size billboard.

Get real!

Wikipedia never surprises me with the stupid topics they have done research about.

I will second that you would have to be living in a cave not to have heard of Vietnam veterans getting spit on and called baby killers when they came home.I think just about any veteran in a uniform at that time can tell stories about being spit on and called baby killer among other things.I remember reading stories about how Vietnam vets were denied loans by banks because some liberal piece of trash would not give them the loan because they were in the War.

One thing we can always count on from your posts is some sort of negative,anti military,anti American,gloom and doom news.You certainly won't miss any opportunity to find any excuse to show the world how America is this horrible place filled with horrible people serving in our military.



These cases or so rare they are almost unheard of.We all know these things happen from time to time and it should be no surprise.You certainly seem to have no problem with our enemy playing by no rules,cutting the heads off of civilians,blowing innocents to pieces by suicide bombs,torturing and beating US soldiers,and hundreds of other things I can't think of.

I am a Christian who is well informed of these cases.I can't even remember in all my life any other religious group in this country demanding Christmas decorations be removed or Christmas banned other than the Atheists.Why would they?If they protest Christmas because they find it offending then the Atheist are going to use the same logic to wipe away their religion using the same argument.

I am not going to waste time posting which has to be hundreds of cases over the years by Atheist suing the state and Christian originations because of their religion.We have all seen the news,we all know who is the first to complain about Christmas,and we all know who is behind these negative attack ads.

You obviously don't have the slightest idea how Government and business relations work.The state gives tax breaks and grants to business of every kind you can think of from movie theaters to baseball parks to give them incentives to build in that state.Many times large hotels,theme parks,baseball fields,concert arenas,and other large venues will pitch there ideas to various states and cities to see who is going to offer the best deal in tax breaks.Many times not only do these competing cities offer huge tax breaks they even finance the project with their own money because simple math will tell them they will make much more on their return in taxes from tourist and the new business that will be built next to that attraction.It is common sense to anyone educated in business that the more business you bring into a state the more tax revenue you will have and the more jobs you will create.


This wouldn't matter if it was a mega church or a museum devoted to Atheism.You have a new business that will bring jobs,tax revenue,and construction at a time when it was desperately needed.Only a total dumba** would say no to this project and watch it being built in the state next to theirs.


I also think this state looked at the huge success of Kentucky's creation museum that people much like yourself laughed at and said would be a flop.


http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2008-10-10-creation-museum-attendance_N.htm


Kentucky's Creation Museum reports 550,000 visitors since opening

LOUISVILLE — The museum exhibits are taken from the Old Testament, but the special effects are pure Hollywood: a state-of-the-art planetarium, animatronics and a massive model of Noah's Ark, all intended to explain the origins of the universe from a biblical viewpoint.
The Creation Museum, which teaches life's beginnings through a literal interpretation of the Bible, is claiming attendance figures that would make it an unexpectedly strong draw less than a year and a half after it debuted. More than a half-million people have toured the Kentucky attraction since its May 2007 opening, museum officials said.

They are putting up billboards here in Denver too protesting Christmas.They do this every year and the only reason they do it is to be as offensive as possible.They only pick on Christians because they know the Christians are a easy target.I would like to see these Atheist put up signs during Islamic Ramadan and protesting it.It is celebrated through out the country and Obama loves this Islamic holiday.


All these people are doing is rubbing salt in a open wound.No Christian is going to stop celebrating Christmas because of some stupid billboard.It will however just give Atheist more negativity and more unpopularity then they already have by upsetting Christians during their most sacred holiday.


Atheist are not much different then the gays.Preach tolerance and unity yet never miss the opportunity to insult them and demand they throw away everything they hold near and dear.Of course since it is this time of the year we can start reading about all the worthless lawsuits by Atheist demanding Christmas is taken off the school calenders or that Christmas tree must be cut down and burned.