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Tue 08/06/13 07:50 AM

Unconditional love is something we feel towards other person without thinking anything about ourselves. Loving without asking for something in return, without even expecting to be loved back.


Now ^^^ THIS ^^^ is a definition of unconditional love I can related to. And I agree that this is very possible and much more common, and even mentally and emotionally healthy...as long as you don't allow it to be used against you with cruel intent.

To me this ideal of unconditional love doesn't say, "I will love you the same no matter how many welts you put on my back", it simply means that it CAN exist without personal reward...usually because the person DESERVES IT. flowerforyou

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Tue 08/06/13 07:20 AM



My rule is three dates


Hey TB. waving

Can you always get to know someone in three dates?

Do you have ways of making them talk? :laughing:


We have ways of making you talk! LOL!

I am very good at what I do, but I am unclear about your question. I don't look for marriage potential in everyone I meet, that takes long-term proving on their part. But a yes or no on the topic of intimacy is fairly easy; do I want to be their friend or a little something more.


Oh, I'm mostly just messing with you. :tongue: But I assume that most people who have a standard time frame for assessing a prospect have a purpose for that waiting period. I doubt many are prospecting for proposals on the first few dates....so...cooling off period maybe? tongue2

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Tue 08/06/13 06:43 AM






I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?
Yes. You can forgive. Forgiveness is a pivotal part of love.

"Love is not love / which alters when it alteration finds."

If God can forgive any person completely, so should we. It's still a choice; you can hold your hatred against extreme evil inside you and let it destroy you, or you can forgive; you can love. Those are your options.


Those are not the only two options.

I have no hatred in me...trust me, it's been thoroughly tested. Neither do I have to love someone who has changed into something THAT contrary to the person I had love for once.

My love is constant. In this scenario, it's the person that's altered...not my love. I would still love the person he was, but he is no longer that person.

There are thousands of options between hate and love. I can feel a great deal of compassion for the person they have become, even though they have stepped outside of the boundaries of my love.

I think most people don't truly know the boundaries of their love until they've actually been tested beyond their limits. I do believe everyone has their limits. We are not Gods, we are humans with human emotions...such as love.

flowerforyou
Love is not an emotion. First of all. Love might *involve* emotions, but love is not itself an emotion. Love is closest to an action. Perhaps love could be called "a conscious act of will."

That quote came from Shakespeare's Sonnet 116:

SONNET 116

Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,

Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.

Clearly, you missed the point, or attempted to repeat the point, and failed. So, you've forced me to paraphrase Shakespeare. Thanks.

Even just looking at those two lines (which I quoted before), "love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds," no one could put the notion more eloquently or succinctly. When a person changes, love remains steadfast, through "tempests," through trouble, all kinds of trouble. When a person alters, love does not alter. That's eternal, unconditional love.

Hmmm, no, there really are only two options. Either you love someone or you don't. Pretty simple. There may be a lot *surrounding* a situation, such as jealousy or pride or infidelity, but none of those things represent love; so, they must represent hate, and I'd argue that they do. Love is pretty black and white. Either you're striving to love or you're striving to hate; just as you're either striving to live or striving to die. There is no in between.

I should know.


I agree that Shakespeare's Sonnet 116 is beautiful. :thumbsup: According to your, and Shakespeare's, definition of love, I must love everyone...as I hate none. flowerforyou

In the spirit of trying to understand your concept of this, if there is nothing in between, and jealousy, pride and infidelity are all hate, then are sympathy, compassion and pity actually love?

Personally, I subscribe to the traditional definitions of love and hate as supported by modern psychology as being emotions. So, we are not likely to agree on anything using such different definitions. But I'm confident you won't hold that against me, as someone so vehemently passionate about LOVE. flowers

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Mon 08/05/13 09:43 PM
A mix of everything but D, T and V. Not all at once though...boy would that be a mess! :tongue: Everything has it's time and place. flowerforyou

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Mon 08/05/13 09:28 PM

offtopic
Recently this moron messaged me telling me how wonderful my profile was and how beautiful I am surprised

[snickers} At the time I had no pic up and my profile says nothing
rofl




I think I've met that guy! rofl

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Mon 08/05/13 09:25 PM
Edited by 1Cynderella on Mon 08/05/13 09:26 PM
I'm not a believer, but am not antireligious. I'm happy for anyone who is happy in their own beliefs. flowerforyou

I'm curious though. If it makes other's happy to believe in a God, why does that bother you? You do have the right to tell them no.

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Mon 08/05/13 09:21 PM
Since these are FACTS, if I only rate one out of seven, do I have to turn in my badge or something? If so, then whatever will I WEAR? tears :laughing:

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Mon 08/05/13 09:16 PM




I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?
Yes. You can forgive. Forgiveness is a pivotal part of love.

"Love is not love / which alters when it alteration finds."

If God can forgive any person completely, so should we. It's still a choice; you can hold your hatred against extreme evil inside you and let it destroy you, or you can forgive; you can love. Those are your options.


Those are not the only two options.

I have no hatred in me...trust me, it's been thoroughly tested. Neither do I have to love someone who has changed into something THAT contrary to the person I had love for once.

My love is constant. In this scenario, it's the person that's altered...not my love. I would still love the person he was, but he is no longer that person.

There are thousands of options between hate and love. I can feel a great deal of compassion for the person they have become, even though they have stepped outside of the boundaries of my love.

I think most people don't truly know the boundaries of their love until they've actually been tested beyond their limits. I do believe everyone has their limits. We are not Gods, we are humans with human emotions...such as love.

flowerforyou

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Mon 08/05/13 07:53 PM

The mattress humping thread was one of the most funniest and memorable.This particular post is from the bygone days when this site was known as Just Say Hi.I'm certain that the O/P felt deeply embarrassed from exposing his little secret hence his quick de-activation.However the thread remained active for days afterwards.Yep!them were the days of great forum participation.Good Times! Godspeed!CyPoet :)


surprised slaphead rofl

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Mon 08/05/13 02:58 PM
The next time I ran into him and he pulled that crap with me again, I'd hold up my cell phone and tell him if it happens again, I'll send the recording I just made of it to his wife.

That ought to put a stop to it...as well as make him jump every time his wife gets a text or email. :tongue:

The only reason he's doing it is because he thinks he holds the cards. Without ACTUALLY stooping to his level, remind him you have some cards of your own.



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Mon 08/05/13 02:43 PM
smokin

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Mon 08/05/13 01:39 PM

My rule is three dates


Hey TB. waving

Can you always get to know someone in three dates?

Do you have ways of making them talk? :laughing:

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Mon 08/05/13 01:37 PM


I cannot set a time it will take me to care for someone.

If I'm not ready to share myself sexually, it's simply not going to happen.

Any man who does not want to wait for that gift, only wants to take, and does not care enough to gain my trust to begin with.

I only want a man who gives himself to me freely and without reservations. Why would I want someone I had to coerce into having sex with me? noway slaphead




I haven't ever used the 5 date rule, I was just curious about people take on it. I'm just really getting tired guys who think that i will have sex with someone Ive only talked to online, or expect sex the 1st time we meet. Even though I clearly tell them before had that is not what I am looking for. So I was considering telling guys that I had a 5 date rule, as a way to help the the situation, and wanted others opinions on it.



Geesh, stop bragging Penny! :laughing: flowerforyou

I totally get it. Just tell em if you're not feeling it...neither will they. rofl

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Mon 08/05/13 10:31 AM
Actually, I've not had time for a relationship in 20 years. slaphead If I don't have time for a relationship, I'm not going to drag someone into one. It's only going to hurt us both when I can't give him the time and attention he deserves.grumble

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Mon 08/05/13 07:18 AM
I cannot set a time it will take me to care for someone.

If I'm not ready to share myself sexually, it's simply not going to happen.

Any man who does not want to wait for that gift, only wants to take, and does not care enough to gain my trust to begin with.

I only want a man who gives himself to me freely and without reservations. Why would I want someone I had to coerce into having sex with me? noway slaphead


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Mon 08/05/13 06:12 AM




I consider any affection that the adult entertainment industry would not charge admission for as okay for public display. :thumbsup:




Oh,...So, in other words, you get what you pay for, right? glasses


Uhhh...no. Just saying while I'm perfectly fine with pda, I don't personally, nor would I appreciate when others, put on a peep show for the public. noway




drinker glasses It seems, you do have your limitations about what other people do in public. Well, I look at it like this: The things we might see other people do in public - for one... could be a good conversation piece, don't you think? With this in mind, I figure you might be concerned about what other people might think about what you do in public. Am I correct?bigsmile


The law has limitations on what people do in public too. :laughing:


It's not about what people think of ME, or my date...but about common courtesy for the general public. Everyone has a right to go out of their house without being made captive audiences to a couple's sex life. Patents have a right to take their children out without having to cover their eyes.

Showing PG-13 affection, hand holding, hugging, kissing, or holding or touching one another in a non-sexual manner is not something most people find offensive or hide from their children. Most find it endearing to watch a couple unashamed to show their love openly like that.

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Sun 08/04/13 09:16 PM

I do believe in unconditional love BUT the world
is changing so much. I watch the news and see where
a parent killed their child. My question is how in the
he!! could a parent kill their child?
It seems like everyone is getting so mean, is it even
safe to bring children in this mean world anymore? I
truly think that IF I was young again and had to do things
over right now, I would not have kids.
Why would I want to bring a child in to this scary world to
where you can not even feel safe sending them outside
to play in your own yard.
Don't get me wrong, I love my children but I would hate to
see how this world is going to be once they start having kids
of their own.

I DO THINK THERE IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE
GOING CRAZY DUE TO LACK OF COMMON SENSE AND NOT KNOWING HOW
TO BE A PARENT AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN!!!


I think a parent can and should love their children unconditionally. I have no doubt that serial rapists and killers should still have their parents love. That's very different than a romantic love...even for a spouse. IMO

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Sun 08/04/13 09:10 PM
Edited by 1Cynderella on Sun 08/04/13 09:12 PM






I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?

Whoa...
I don't believe loving this person unconditionally would be a rational emotion.

How the hell could you? Any sane person wouldn't.


Yes, and as an irrational person, I have to doubt their idea of unconditional love.

I think you can only love someone unconditionally on the condition they stay the same person you love unconditionally. slaphead


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Sun 08/04/13 08:54 PM




I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?

Whoa...
I don't believe loving this person unconditionally would be a rational emotion.

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Sun 08/04/13 08:45 PM


I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?

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