The most lustful & greedy are the ones making the rules, & breaking them.

I'll keep that in mind, Quick.. If I can figure out where the christian singles is I will check them out one day. Thank you..

Both sides Con and Lib are equally at fault here, I think you might agree with that. It really doesn't matter who starts it, but it always seems to be hot button items that get the craziness going. I think I have learned that in a public forum like this some people's only purpose is to start a topic they know will start a fight.

I look for real discussion and though I am not above playful trivia, I prefer discussion. When that is interupted by sexual inuendo and whatever, the discussion becomes confusing and disconnected.

Unfortunately one can't always be prepared for some of the absolutely uninformed things people say and not hanging out very often in public forums I have to admit that at times I wear my heart on my sleeve.

I don't know that we can ever get past our divisions which seem to be the most popular topics, and I don't know if there can ever be a really in depth discussion of these issues with Christians because the Biblical views so immutable, but I find I try every now then even though I expect it won't work well for me in the end.

That's why mostly religion and politics is so often not a favorite topic on either side in the real world.

I know that I have found some of the things you have posted very offensive and hurtful, and I thought to myself, geez, I don't even know this women, why does it bother me so much.

We can all pretend we are above being hurt by others words, but if we are really honest, they absolutely do hurt, doesn't matter if it's a best friend or a stranger.

So QuickStepper, despite the fact that I have been angered by your words and responded in kind out of frustration, I call a truce because I think that despite what you believe that I might not, you have been genuine in your response here. .

And I appreciate that you did add your voice to this topic. I don't know how long I will be able to handle this site and keep my nerves in tact. LOL But I will know that there are a great deal of people out there willing to hear my side of things and consider them, most times that enough for me.

He did denounce the old laws of the Old Testament.

What is wrong with concentrating on his teachings more then the Old Testament?

I'm a Christian and I don't count on facts with the Old Testament. It was written by men long time ago and was difficult to interpret. I concentrate more on Jesus' life. Jesus denounced the laws of the Old Testament.

For an Irish Christmas party that's mild...

This is the first I have seen you say the word lib or liberal with out sarcasm QuickStepper, so i am a bit surprised your even here. But never the less, I wouldn't find a captive audience in a Christian singles or other Christian forum, because I have found they don't want to look at things from any point of view that isn't strictly Christian or biblical, so we end up getting nowhere or back the same old arguments.

I don't want this topic to be from a biblical point of view of gay marriage or morality, because we already know what that is. I want to discuss with people that aren't completely closed off to an other view point. I don't know what a political animal is, I came here because I see that there are people willing to discuss differing points of view that are not biblically based so that is where I wanted to start, with people that really like to discuss different points of view that don't necessarily bother them to discuss. Not sure I am making sense, it's getting late for me.

The Christian friends I have do not take the bible literally. The ones that do we can not discuss this because when you do they feel attacked and dismissed, so there is no way to discuss it with them with out heated argument no one wants.

SARAH PALIN GETS A SON IN LAW .AND BECOME A GRANDMA........

I predict that everyone who wants him to fail will work very hard to make that happen!