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Quikstepper
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Wed 12/17/08 03:43 PM
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.....Salvation Explained..... chuck@chuckbaldwinlive.com
I am a Taoist-Christain, so don't freak out becuase of the following. If you intend to win the hearts and minds of people, lets dicuss a few of these points with the questions of non-believers. Point # 1: Who not what says we should conform to believing in your specfic diety? There are many faith claiming to be the "light and the "truth" and the "way". Uh no...there are many "religions" that exchange our works for grace. Grace is a gift from God & not of ourselves. That is a major difference between Christianity & other "religions." Point#2 How can all men be seperated from God? Isn't the tale of adam and eve similar to tales from various other religions. In fact some say it is almost an exact copy of the bablyionian tale of Gigamesh? How are we to trust the bible, a text written by men and whose version decended from the bible which was assembled by men at the council of Nicae around 300 a.d. nearly 300 years after christ. There are many texts which were added or left out over the centuries that followed, so is to say that the bible(whichever version you read) is genuine let alone the "word of God"? The Bible is more than a story. It's all God breathed and inspired... not of man. Those who experience the manifestations of God in their lives know this to be true. Those who haven't yet still question the "who & what" of God. Point #3 Why just Jesus? There have been many men who preformed miracles and brought light and wisdom to the world. Are we not all children of "God"? Why pick just one person to be the route to eternal salvation. Why just one way? Because God's word says there is only one mediator between God & man & that is Jesus Christ. That is what all those who profess to be Christians believe. Point #4 Again who not what says there is just one way. What about all those who lived before christ or even perhaps those who have never heard your message? Are you saying those poor souls are condemned to hell? The word of God says everyone will have a chance to repent & recieve Christ & so all will be without excuse. Before grace there was the law & God chose a people who would reveal His glory to the rest of the world. While they did not experience dispensation they recieved the promise. Point#5 Who not what said proof was required of someones faith? Do not my actions and choices speak of my faith themselves? Again what makes individuals who say such things right? Is not my personal relationship with Christ and God enough? There are those who can only lead the way...but it's up to the individual to taste & see if the Lord is good. That is something no one can do for another. OTOH, if you are going to resist what is being said that will also get you nowhere. I find it very disturbing the number of christians who can not actually answer such questions without constantly repeating verses which mean nothing to the none believer and ultimately are questionable to them as well as the number of questions that go unanswered as a result of such "salvation" tactics. Uh...all MS did was point the way to salvation & explained the what fors along with it according to what God's word says it is. That is really up to the person to try it or not. Explanations are important & not just what some consider mindnumb memorization of the word. Most here quote what they believe & it shows in their understanding of what God is saying. It is my personal belief if one is to trully claim to be a member of a particular faith then must research it, study it, not just the texts but the history,languages and cultural backgrounds and ties. Quoting bible verses may win you a few followers but i believe you'll find that 2/3 of them will fall away from the "flock" when they start asking these questions. Explanations along with God's word as back up is important. It's God's word along with the personal relationship that backs up what the Christian believes. If everything was in black & white there would be no need for faith. Right? BTW...we are here to discuss...it's only thru life & living along with knowing other Christians that you get the flavor of faith dear heart. God bless you. I hope God meets you wherever you are at. 
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Topic:
No Religion is perfect
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No religion is perfect... just as no human is perfect. - John Wow I think I made up a new quote never said before. I feel so wise now 
Do you agree with this quote or do you think it is a bunch of hogwash? again
Well dogma is religiousity. I think there are pluses to that. If you follow certain paths it brings life & health & good living. Right? That's what the Bible refers to as our "reasonable" service. The "I'm a good person" thing alot of people use to fight off faith ideas. Right?
Then there is faith. The place where heaven meets earth. The "Thy will be done...on earth as it is in heaven" kind of reltionship with God, the Father, thru Jesus His Son. The nuances that that relationship brings is more than any one person will ever experience in this life...for sure. The only thing that keeps us from all of God's best is our "old man" with the old fears, emotions, disappointments, doubts, mistrust & other assorted garbage we refuse to let go of. It gives no thought to the new man at all. Ponder that too for a bit. Funny thing is...the new man gives no thought to the old one...unless we let him that is. That's probly a big reason why no one can expect perfection...just an honest relationship with the Father thru Jesus His Son, that we can live with the same death & resurrection life He did. The same hope of glory...above all. |
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I applaud your efforts to reach those who are seeking with an honest heart to find God. I also admire the love you show others. It's refreshing given what you're working with.
Keep fighting the good fight of faith. Some wonder they call it a fight? LOL
God bless you dear heart. Hope you have having a wonderful Christmas time. 
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So do you think the book of revelations is a lie?
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Topic:
The Barking Moonbat
Edited by
Quikstepper
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Mon 12/15/08 04:30 PM
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"it is a forum for discussing religion after all". There is a separate religion Forum! Two to be exact.. Edited by templter on Mon 12/15/08 01:33 PM Are you implying that the General Religion forum is only for non-Christians to discuss their religions among each other and that Christians aren't welcome? No...if you go to the CS forum you will see sharing & considerate discussion...unlike the other...nothing but fights & slams. I prefer the civility of the CS forum over the free for all sectarian hatefest that is allowed to go on against Christians. |
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Mon 12/15/08 04:32 PM
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Don't yu just love the hysteria by the libs?
That's so funny. Especially since it's all "in their heads"...LOL I for one am not going live in the constant state of fear & intimidation frenzy of the LIB mentality. There are solutions if people use their heads instead of their emotions. Madman...get a grip. Your posts are ripe with hysteria. |
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God is soo deserving of all glory honor & praise...
You Deserve the Glory You deserve the glory, and the honor Lord we lift our hands and worship As we magnify your name! You deserve the glory, and the honor Lord we lift our hands and worship As we magnify your name Chorus: For you are great! You do miracles so great! There is no one else like you! There is no one else like you! For you are great! You do miracles so great! There is no one else like you! There is no one else like you! You deserve the glory, and the honor Lord we lift our hands and worship As we magnify your name! You deserve the glory, and the honor Lord we lift our hands and worship As we magnify your name http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRkYv3zTcY |
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Well it's actually more pleasant & civil in CS..not like here with all the nonsense people post.
There would be no need for the seperation if it weren't for those who just want to argue with others for sharing their faith. I think it's a great thing...unfortunately those who want to have someone to fight with are the only ones that aren't happy about it (I suppose.)
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...and they wonder why no one reads the trash tabloid news anymore. Come January the adults will have left the building while the inmates take over.
It should be fun watching the gang that couldn't shoot straight. Two years folks!
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Sun 12/14/08 05:32 PM
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Newsweek thought they could pick and choose and distort the bible verses to fit their gay agenda and it blew up in their face.Do you really think the Christians are stupid enough to buy this BS?Newsweek made a fatal error as it no doubt pissed off a great deal of Christians and it will be no surprise when subsriptions are cancelled and sales go down.This could be the final nail in the coffin of newsweek as sales are already down and this no doubt will hurt their bottom line.I don't read newsweek but will fully support a boycott. Yes well that's the FREE enterprize system at its best to put out of business a bunch of liars & their revisionist POV that many are not buying. They won't stay in business if people don't buy. From the so called news orgs to public radio that was an abysmal failure. I think that is the only thing that speaks volumes. The silent rebuke. |
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There are scriptures rich with the purpose in dying to oneself. It's to glorify God who gives grace to the humble in heart. The flesh (the old man, corrupt & mortal) will always war against the spirit (incorrupt & immortal), but in His spirit dwelling in us the the greatest glory of God revealed.
Gal 2 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. 17 “But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. Gal. ch 3 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”[h]), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” |
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Topic:
As My Heart Begins To Fall
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WOW! How humanly honest you are.
I can certainly relate! |
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Topic:
My Sacred Face
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Awesome! I hear yu on this one...
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Topic:
Why are YOU so special?
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Psalm 2 [1] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? [2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, [3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. [4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. [5] Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. [6] Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. [7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. [8] Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. [9] Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. [10] Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. [11] Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. [12] Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. You got it! This is what happens when the adults leave the room.
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This is another favorite...
On Eagle's Wings You who dwell in the shelter of the Lord, Who abide in His shadow for life, Say to the Lord, "My Refuge, My Rock in Whom I trust." And He will raise you up on eagle's wings, Bear you on the breath of dawn, Make you to shine like the sun, And hold you in the palm of His Hand. The snare of the fowler will never capture you, And famine will bring you no fear; Under His Wings your refuge, His faithfulness your shield. And He will raise you up on eagle's wings, Bear you on the breath of dawn, Make you to shine like the sun, And hold you in the palm of His Hand. You need not fear the terror of the night, Nor the arrow that flies by day, Though thousands fall about you, Near you it shall not come. And He will raise you up on eagle's wings, Bear you on the breath of dawn, Make you to shine like the sun, And hold you in the palm of His Hand. For to His angels He's given a command, To guard you in all of your ways, Upon their hands they will bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone. And He will raise you up on eagle's wings, Bear you on the breath of dawn, Make you to shine like the sun, And hold you in the palm of His Hand. And hold you in the palm of His Hand. |
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You raise me up...
When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary; When troubles come and my heart burdened be; Then, I am still and wait here in the silence, Until you come and sit awhile with me. You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains; You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas; I am strong, when I am on your shoulders; You raise me up... To more than I can be. You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains; You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas; I am strong, when I am on your shoulders; You raise me up... To more than I can be. There is no life - no life without its hunger; Each restless heart beats so imperfectly; But when you come and I am filled with wonder, Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity. You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains; You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas; I am strong, when I am on your shoulders; You raise me up... To more than I can be. You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains; You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas; I am strong, when I am on your shoulders; You raise me up... To more than I can be. You raise me up... To more than I can be. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2d4CBXYAI |
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This was the first scripture that God spoke to my heart...
Jeremiah 29:11 (New King James Version) 11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope It's my special one because it was my first one. |
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Topic:
Mores
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Great post...I agree with you. If we really examined ourselves we would know just how lacking we really are in our RELATIONSHIP with & to Christ. It does seem as though we are just scratching the surface instead of living on the cutting edge of faith.
I believe that God is calling all those who truly love Him to die to our self so he can increase. Will we allow him to crack that old man so He can live with ALL liberty in us? I'm working that one out in my life. Lately I feel like two people but I want to new wineskin that will be able to hold fire. By the grace of God & not of myself though. Thanks for sharing...God bless... |
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Topic:
Tonight
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Hey there Ms. WIZ~~~~~
Leftovers huh? Make sure this one leaves a VERY BIG Tip!!!!!
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Fri 12/12/08 02:56 AM
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there will be no more posts from Lindyy :( she has decided to deactivate her account with mingle2.com That's because so many of you are so full of hate for any disagreement that no one is bothering to answer you all. The mods are doing such a great job around here. All at the expense of free speech. Nonetheless, it seems that the 'adults" left the room. I'm sure there are better boards for having real discussion without all the baby talk that gets in the way here. |
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